[sustran] Re: This is what happens when "green (private) cars" are promoted in the North

[Chenmunn Tham]

Good morning everyone.

Isn't 'walking' and 'cycling' already a way of life in many African cities,
such that it is THE main mode of transport for most of its population? The
idea of an 'electric bike' is great, but if EV is the way to go, I would
think that the electric bus and even the electric cargo bicycle would be
the most effective and highest priority means of transport. Having said
that, it is a good start - on a smaller scale - for the Ugandan team to
begin with developing the electric car. Great step in moving ahead in my
opinion.

cheers,
Chenmunn



On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, amanda.ngabirano at gmail.com <
amanda.ngabirano at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi every body. This is definately something to celebrate. To respond to
> Lange, in particular, they do not consider, yet, cycling and walking. I
> guess that is our work:to bring it to their attention and then we shall
> hear of our own electric bike. That is why a Car Free day is being
> organized. Today I met our minister of transport about it and sustainable
> transport and he was very positive. That is among the initial stages of the
> never ending process of transport sustainability. Thank you all. Amanda
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morten Lange
> Sent:  08/11/2011, 13.51
> To: Joachim Bergerhoff; eric britton; Todd EDELMAN
> Cc: Amanda Ngabirano; Nite Tanzarn; Sustran List; tafmod-u tafmod; UWABA;
> Gatnet - Gender and Transport Community of Practice
> Subject: Re: [sustran] Re: This is what happens when "green (private)
> cars" are promoted in the North
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> I see the points of Todd, Eric and Joachim.
>
>
> It does say in the article that they plan to do electric buses next.
>
> "The team’s next project will be to design and build a line of electric
> buses. As one of the main modes of transport, the buses have the potential
> to greatly reduce the country’s reliance on oil and offer a greener source
> of transportation to the majority of Ugandans."
>
>
> That is definitely a step in the right direction in my view :-)
>
>
> One wonders though if they consider walking (and cycling ) also as "one of
> the main modes of transport".
>
>
> --
> Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen
> Morten Lange, Reykjavík
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Joachim Bergerhoff <agimjo at gmail.com>
> >To: eric britton <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>; Todd EDELMAN <
> edelman at greenidea.eu>
> >Cc: Amanda Ngabirano <amanda.ngabirano at gmail.com>; Nite Tanzarn <
> tanzarn at yahoo.co.uk>; Sustran List <Sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org>;
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> >Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011, 10:17
> >Subject: [sustran] Re: This is what happens when "green (private) cars"
> are promoted in the North
> >
> >The synthesis is clear: it is good news that there is an African
> competence
> >in innovative vehicles.  It would be better if this competence was applied
> >to sustainable transport systems, like BRT, for instance.
> >
> >Why are Africa's large cities not equipped with BRT ?  Because there are
> no
> >functional and inexpensive mass transit systems on the market.  African
> >public transport riders cannot afford an imported copy of Curitiba and one
> >cannot do BRT without a thought through high capacity vehicle/station
> >system.  Hence, the real challenge and best news would / will be the
> >re-engineering of the BRT concept to meet the capacities and needs of the
> >African manufacturing industry and mass urban transport market.  Anybody
> >working on this ?
> >
> >Joachim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2011/11/8 eric britton <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>
> >
> >> _____________________________________________________
> >>
> >> World Streets
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I appreciate your point Todd, but I think a bit differently about this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The path to sustainable transport and sustainable cities, passes by
> >> sustainable lives. Now what I like about this project is not that it is
> an
> >> EV and we all know of course by now that E-vehicles are more than a bit
> of
> >> hype when it comes to their claim as sustainable transport.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> But what I like about their project is the fact that a group of young
> >> Ugandan students are putting their heads together to create something
> that
> >> is different and that is a great laboratory for learning and team work.
> >> It's not a sustainability project per se, but that they can learn as a
> next
> >> step.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I see this as a step in a process and bravo to them (and to their
> wonderful
> >> University, Makerere, which thought all the turmoil's of these recent
> hard
> >> decades in Uganda has somehow endures when so much else fails and
> suffers).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for drawing this to our attention Todd.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric Britton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> On Behalf Of Todd Edelman
> >> Sent: Monday, 07 November, 2011 21:55
> >> To: 'Sustran List'
> >> Subject: [sustran] This is what happens when "green (private) cars" are
> >> promoted in the North
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Uganda’s First Electric Car Built by Makerere Students
> >>
> >> http://inhabitat.com/ugandas-first-electric-car-is-built-by-students/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A group of 25 Ugandan students from Makerere University’s College of
> >>
> >> Engineering, Art and Design have built Uganda’s first electric car, the
> >>
> >> Kiira EV. Initially designed in 2009, the fabricated car was taken for a
> >>
> >> public test drive last week. Most of the parts of the two-seater,
> >>
> >> including the core body and combustion system, were designed and built
> >>
> >> locally...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Click on link for full story....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Todd Edelman
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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