Re: [sustran] Skyway proposal ‘mind-boggling,’ says rival firm

[Cornie Huizenga]

Dear Lloyd and others,

In a normal world I think that Lloyd's approach could work.  I am not
certain though whether Manila is a "normal"world. The danger that I would
foresee is that private sector claims that they can do this without
government support but that relatively soon there will be some set-backs
which will make it necessary that the government bails out the project.

I would call for a public dialog in which you explain that what Manila
needs most is a mobility solution which works for all people and not just
those who have cars. Why should Manila go for a solution which has proven
in other places not to work.  Having a smoother flowing EDSA will not
resolve congestion in other parts of Metro Manila. I would suggest that
NGOs start an aggressive campaign to explain to the different stakeholders
(business, NGOs, local government) how the $ 600 million can be used in an
alternative manner to create a much more livable city.

Cornie

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Lloyd Wright <lwright at vivacities.org> wrote:

> Yes, the proposal to build another road layer over EDSA Avenue in Manila
> is indeed mind-boggling, especially when you consider there are currently
> segments already with three layers.
>
>
> http://business.inquirer.net/46659/skyway-proposal-%E2%80%98mind-boggling%E2%80%99-says-rival-firm
>
> However, I actually think there is an opportunity here for a sustainable
> transport solution, that simultaneously allows for the civil works
> companies to build their dreams.
>
> Let them build the Skyway on the condition that it is entirely a private
> endeavor with zero contribution from public funds.  The toll amount and
> concession length could be adjusted to whatever lets them profit.
>
> The other caveat is that the surface layer belongs to sustainable
> transport with wide footpaths, cycle lanes, and dedicated bus lanes.  Only
> allow one lane for mixed traffic at the surface level, a lane that will be
> throttled by calming measures that give priority to the NMT and public
> transport lanes.
>
> The most undesirable outcome would be building the Skyway with public
> funds and simultaneously leaving the surface in the hands of cars, a real
> lose-lose with no equity or environmental benefits.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lloyd
>
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> Subject: [sustran] Skyway proposal ‘mind-boggling,’ says rival firm
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>
>
>
> Here we go... 24 billion pesos versus 21 billion pesos equals ?
> In the silence that follows, is it true? that "the road to hell is paved
> with good intentions?"
>
>
> Skyway proposal ‘mind-boggling,’ says rival firm
> Source: business.inquirer.net
>
> “Ambitious,” “incredible” and “mind-boggling.” This was how the group of
> Manuel V. Pangilinan described claims by San Miguel Corp. (SMC)-backed
> Citra Metro Manila Tollways Corp. (CMMTC) that it could build a highway
> over busy Metro Manila streets at a lower cost.
>
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Cornie Huizenga
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