[sustran] Re: I hate it when we quarrel

[Paul Barter]

I agree with Carlos. The conversation is very interesting and useful I
think. Disagreements are expected. Even very robust disagreement is fine.

But I do worry about 'acid remarks'. In order to be a welcoming and diverse
community, we need a tone that is significantly MORE polite and restrained
than what some of us are used to in academic seminar rooms or around
professional meeting tables. Please try to craft your posts in a way that
would not discourage even a shy person from posting here.

Paul

On 6 May 2011 01:15, Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpardo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have to disagree. I didn't find the discussion of yesterday and today
> to be a quarrel. It was a very critical and useful discussion of a key
> topic in urban transport policy that we should have more often. Granted,
> other recent discussions had acid remarks. But the Zegras - Richmond
> exchange is most valuable and I think many of us learned a lot from it
> (at least I did!). Hopefully more of us can contribute to the issue.
>
> Carlos.
>
> On 05/05/2011 09:11 a.m., eric britton wrote:
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________
> >
> > World Streets
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> >               Make it yours
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> >
> >
> >              Paris. Thursday, 05 May, 2011
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate it when we quarrel with each other. It just ain't creative. As I
> read
> > it after all these years here, we, our constant long term peer group
> here,
> > are all on the same side – sustainable transport, sustainable cities and
> > sustainable lives.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have different thoughts about how to get there – and I am surely among
> > the most obstinate of our group in my belief that the only valid primary
> > target is VKT reduction by whatever creative democratic manner, and fast
> –
> > but we really should not allow ourselves to become adversarial.  It is
> all a
> > matter of tone  (And I hope that YOU hear me, eh?)
> >
> >
> >
> > I love you guys and my only complaint is that we somehow have failed to
> > bring more women into this little family. That, along with the occasional
> > (but not very frequently) quarreling, is our biggest failure thus far.
> >
> >
> >
> > And of course that the world that we care about is still going to hell in
> a
> > hand basket, desire our hopes and efforts.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have serious work to do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Forward! Together!
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric
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> >
> >     Eric Britton, Editor / Managing Director
> >
> >     World Streets / New Mobility Partnerships
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> >
> >     Tel. +331 7550 3788   |  editor at newmobility.org   |  Skype:
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