[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

Walter Hook whook at itdp.org
Wed May 4 02:44:51 JST 2011


how is this for a tag line:

"all the disadvantages of cars, with none of the advantages."



On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:37 PM, E T 3 Space Travel On Earth tm
<et3 at et3.com>wrote:

> Eric,
>
> It is easy for you to beat up your version of PRT (what PRT used to
> be) when you control access to the ring!  Why do you filter out posts
> that make credible fact based arguments?  If you continue to limit
> accessibility to your forums you will continue to attract a barrage
> when a crack appears (as with the "poll").  If you have credible
> arguments to make why not debate me on your forum?  Is it possible
> that your standard of living (and the ability to drive your car around
> and fly in jets to train and bus conferences around the world) depends
> on your continuing support of bus and train modes?  If so, i can
> understand why you filter out your credible competition, and put up
> your paper dragon to slay in front of your audience.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Daryl Oster
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>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:09 AM, eric britton <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>
> wrote:
> > Couple of quick week-end remarks on this group think exercise, if I may?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.       Well, it certainly kicked some life into our group.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.       Not only that, it strikes me that no matter how bizarre the
> topic
> > (and PRT is indeed pretty bizarre), these exchanges dig usefully into
> some
> > of the important corners of the continuing policy debate.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.     Another striking thing has been the great tenacity of our PRT
> > friends.  Please understand that I do not wish to insult them - because
> > there are a fair number whom I have known for years, including going back
> in
> > the days of our first studies of PRT back in the early seventies; so you
> > have to admire their tenacity. However their strong unbending nature in
> the
> > face of the evidence, year after year, decade after decade draw to mind
> the
> > behavior in Russia of the embattled "Old Believers", who were ready to
> > undergo any form of torture, firm as they were/are (since they still
> exist)
> > in their faith. Again, you can see their comments and challenges in more
> > detail
> >
> http://worldstreets.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/prt-proposal-for-delhi-convince
> > s-chief-minister-but-does-it-convince-you-see-poll-results/#comments,
> which
> > I believe provide more evidence of their deep commitment..
> >
> >
> >
> > 4.     And what do you think about the willingness to stuff the ballot
> > boxes, to the extent that today the World Streets poll shows that 60% of
> > those who voted have a favorable view of PRT? To me there is something
> that
> > is kind of touching about this willingness to "do what it takes" to
> defend
> > their bastion. And all the more since we live in a time and with
> technology
> > that permits even a moderately able geek to trace the sources with
> unfailing
> > accuracy. (I have to say that this does not make me mad, but it does make
> me
> > grin.  At least a bit.)
> >
> >
> >
> > 5.     Early next week I will close down the poll, sanitize it (-;) and
> > share the results with you all. We can then put it behind us and get on
> to
> > more creative topics.
> >
> >
> >
> > Still, it has been fun, and not without its lessons.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric Britton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS. Several of the PRT defenders make the point that the nice thing about
> > those small pods is that you do not have to share your trip with "other
> > people".  Am I a bit dim, or does that not have a very definite
> anti-social
> > ring to it?
> >
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