[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

ravi gadepalli gsbravi026 at yahoo.co.in
Thu Apr 28 14:59:31 JST 2011


Dear Sonal,

I work with an Urban Transport consultancy in Delhi and also worked on a demand estimation project for PRT in GIFT city, Gujarat, India.  I hope that makes me reasonably qualified to  put forward my understanding of the PRT.

The peak speed of the POD is about 40 kmph. But when you take the access, 
egress, waiting  and transfer times, we observed in our study for GIFT city that people have 
lesser travel time cycling or in many cases even walking. This without 
even considering the travel cost. 

Cost of construction of PRT is around Rs 40 crore/km (about USD 8 million per km) and its function is to serve as a feeder mode to Metro/BRT.. The cost of BRT will be Rs 10 crore/km (about USD 8 million per km). Even though the cost for the passenger is fixed at Rs 6/km, the social cost will be higher. So, the feeder mode is going to cost more than the main  line. 

The other point put in favour of the PRT is that it can work in narrow 
lanes, like the one's being designed for Lucknow. We have narrow lanes 
in the Old city areas of most of our cities, which were primarily 
designed for walking. Why would we need to tamper with that for PRT, 
which is intended for the same purpose i.e. accessing the main PT lines 
on the arterials.

But PRT has good symbolic value. Like Flyovers and Metros, they are there towering in front of everyone and hence can be claimed as an achievement of the government. Might be useful for the next election. Along the way, the contractors and the executing agencies have some work. So, we cant deny that it benefits some people at least.

Regards,

Ravi Gadepalli,
i-Trans Pvt. Ltd., 
TBIU, IIT Delhi,
New Delhi.





--- On Wed, 27/4/11, Ahuja, Sonal (Capita Symonds) <Sonal.Ahuja at capita.co.uk> wrote:

From: Ahuja, Sonal (Capita Symonds) <Sonal.Ahuja at capita.co.uk>
Subject: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister
To: alok.priyanka at gmail.com,
 aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com
Cc: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
Date: Wednesday, 27 April, 2011, 10:11 AM

Indeed this system, must be seen complimentary, metros don't attract the car users due to interchange and park and ride problems, PRT is seen to an effective complementary system that offer cleaner, convenient and more efficient system than riding a car. Its not the only solution but yet another system that city planners and engineers can use to solve the problem of urban congestion and pollution along with promoting walking, cycling and an effective bus system. PRT must be seen a part of effective comprehensive urban transit strategy and not in isolation.

 
With warm regards,
Sonal

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From: Jains [mailto:alok.priyanka at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 05:15 AM
To: Aashish Gupta <aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

I am surprised that the entire discussion is going towards
"substitution" not "complementarity". Delhi already has very ambitious
plans for Metros (which are full to the brim - coming from personal
experience) and BRT, but there is a strong need to curb private
vehicle growth. PRT though tad expensive, could be a perfect feeder
system to BRT and Metros and for intra-zonal short-distance travel.

Reporting from Delhi.
Alok Jain

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Aashish Gupta <aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com> wrote:
> And Rs 6 per Kilometer is just so expensive! And thats assuming that the
> claim of Rs 6 per kilometer will stay.
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