[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

[Lee Schipper]

I will copy this to Sarath Guttikunda
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Delhi. Can the Moderator admit him?
he has some amazing MoUD data on accessibility and mobility (number of
people traveling less than 15 minutes to work) for dozens of Indian
cities, and the number taking mass transit. The largest cities in India
fail..its a mess..the medium sized cities (like Pune) are doing a bit
better, but the "small" cities (ahem, small compared to Delhi or Mumbai)
offer more near=by access, consistent with what Ashok Dator said.
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> it is a very lively and serious debate on this new "toy" , may be good for
> very select uses at airports etc but cant be a sensible option for other
> major areas in any large and complex city.
> in fact, we need to have overall restraint policy for the urbanization as
> such all over
> if we want to cope with congestion, pollution, energy and sustainabiliy
> I think the cities need to degrow beyond a certain level
> they must remain within ground level transportation - preferably bussing (
> i.e. when u cant walk or bike )
> hopefully for most worktrips and other regular trips for education as well
> -
> it should be walking or biking oriented and then the BRTS
> and only in rare cases, taxies and hired personal cars for occasional uses
> so that we go towards miniimizning private, individually owned cars and
> provide more dense but low carbon impact and sustaibly green habitat
> we cant have all comforts which are based on personal car and then try to
> reject it
> we need to work towards alternate design of living especially in
> sustainable
> manner as global availability of energy, food, water is going to be
> liimited
> and need to equitably available and transport is a crtical element in the
> way we live especially in large urban societies based on exploitation of
> rural pop which can also be more sustainabale and "urban" with new
> techonlogies
> can we think altogether differently - not too radically
> ashok datar
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM, eric britton
> <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>wrote:
>
>> This is a nice lively discussion, and I thought it might add a bit of
>> value
>> if we posted it to World Streets (even if we are supposed to be closed
>> as we
>> seek financial support to keep going) and popped a poll in there for
>> your
>> voting pleasure. You will see the full story at
>> http://worldstreets.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/prt-proposal-for-delhi-convinces-chief-minister-but-does-it-convince-you-see-poll-results/
>>
>> Let's see what kind of consensus, divergence, trends if any we get here.
>>
>> What is more beautiful and encouraging than informed active citizens who
>> make their voices heard.
>>
>> Vote!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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