[sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems

[Sujit Patwardhan]

Eric,
>From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to
tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations,
connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be
addressed?
Google search gave this:
http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start=10&sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e
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Sujit





On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, <bruun at seas.upenn.edu> wrote:

>
>
> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity.
> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route
> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun
>
> Quoting Lee Schipper <schipper at wri.org>:
>
> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of
> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or
> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but
> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two
> > billion people in cities around the world.  I remember taking the
> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in
> > the 1950s.  I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently
> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo
> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because
> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes.
> >
> >
> >
> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides
> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people
> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc.  But please let's not waste even
> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral
> > assistance  funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for
> > ordinary folks goes unmet.  For Asian and Latin America cities, we are
> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities
> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less
> > than 2 trips/day/person.  How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day
> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide
> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to
> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour.  The "nostalgic,
> > semi-underground cog-railway  in Istanbul is a  good example here. But
> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses
> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
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