[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

Lee Schipper schipper at berkeley.edu
Wed Apr 27 04:22:25 JST 2011


Well said. Let me add my  harumph!
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> Is it serious?
>  
> Come on? Large cities in the developing world, like Delhi, Mumbai,
> Beijing, Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo, where I come from, need to invest in
> "large scale" network of public transportation systens that can carry
> 20,30 40 thousand persons per hour/directon, and the only way to do it is
> in the existing infra-structure on the surface (taking private cars out,
> and leaving the space for BRTs or LRT)...
>  
> Monorails, PRT and all these "futuristic ideas" don't do anything good to
> our cities, rather than taking our the attention of public officials
> on where they should been focusing their priorities.... Here in Sao Paulo,
> because of the "monorail dream" that JICA brought to the Mayor, we
> "lost 2 years" studyng these "futuristic" proposals, wasted millions of
> dollars in project, and now they are all abondoned, but the worst part of
> it was that we didn't deliver the BRTs which were planned, and only last
> year we came back to the long term agenda of investing in BRTs, bycicle
> and good sidewalks, which represents 70% of all trips in Sao Paulo!!! 
>  
> The only way to really mitigate urban congestion, improve air quality and
> allow more social inclusion to all the City, at the same time that it
> delivers "affordable options" of mobility to all the population is
> investing in BRT systems with good sidewalks and bicycle. Subways, in some
> very speciffic cases where high density and millions of trips in the same
> direction, could also be an option, but generally, BRTs are the best "cost
> x effective" solution...
>  
> We got to stop dreaming and "losing" time with these futuristic dreams...
> We need solutions, now!
>  
>
> De: Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpardo at gmail.com>
> Para: Faizan Jawed <phaizan at gmail.com>
> Cc: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
> Enviadas: Terça-feira, 26 de Abril de 2011 15:58
> Assunto: Re: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister
>
> I can only imagine a replication of Bruno Latour's "Aramis"....
>
> On 26/04/2011 12:18 p.m., Faizan Jawed wrote:
>> We might remember (almost) lampooning Roger Davidheiser's vision
>> contained
>> in "The Third Generation Roadway:Metropolitan Transport for the 21st
>> Century". It seems it is turning to reality in New Delhi. Some
>> "interesting"
>> bits of text has been highlighted by me. Whatever happened to common
>> sense!
>>
>> -Faizan
>>
>> ###
>> * After Metro, now Pod Cars for Delhi? *
>> *New Delhi: * Delhi may soon have a pod car system on the lines of those
>> in
>> many western cities under which battery operated automated pods, having
>> a
>> capacity to carry up to six passengers, will offer transportation from
>> point
>> to point.
>>
>> Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, after witnessing a presentation,
>> asked
>> Delhi Integrated Multi Modal Transit System Limited (DIMTS) and
>> Transport
>> Department to prepare a detailed project report (DPR) on introduction of
>> the
>> pollution free transport system in the city.
>>
>> Pod car system is a public transportation mode featuring small automated
>> vehicles operating on a network of specially-built tracks. In pod car
>> system, vehicles are sized for individual or small group travel,
>> typically
>> carrying no more than six passengers per vehicle.
>>
>> After the presentation, Dikshit said her government is keen to take it
>> up as
>> a pilot project in areas such as Dwarka, Karol Bagh, East Delhi and
>> Delhi
>> University North Campus.
>>
>> "It will definitely supplement the existing modes of public transport
>> and
>> will come up as an alternative to the personal vehicles," Dikshit said.
>>
>> Transport department officials said the new system may be termed as a
>> personal rapid transit.
>>
>> The private company, which gave the presentation on the project, has
>> offered
>> to commission it with its own resources.
>>
>> "Further it will be economically viable as far as the commuters are
>> concerned. The average fare of the pod will come to be around Rs. 6 per
>> km,"
>> said the official.
>>
>> http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/after-metro-now-pod-cars-for-delhi-101691
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