From hs.sudhira at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 14:25:21 2008 From: hs.sudhira at gmail.com (H S Sudhira) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:25:21 -0700 Subject: [sustran] Web Link: Directorate of Urban Land Transport (DULT) and Bangalore Metropolitan Land Transport Authority (BMLTA) In-Reply-To: <63ffe5800806302222mccdc0c8k3a09793bcb3d89ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <63ffe5800806302222p7c896650lb91b59f4cedaa84f@mail.gmail.com> <63ffe5800806302222mccdc0c8k3a09793bcb3d89ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <63ffe5800806302225qa6ed4cbh44d4e3a8f3eea6b7@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, Based on the recommendations of National Urban Transport Policy (NUTP, 2006) and the recommendations of Working Group on Transportation to the 11th Plan, Government of Karnataka has created the Directorate of Urban Land Transport (DULT) and Bangalore Metropolitan Land Transport Authority (BMLTA). DULT is also functioning as the secretariat for BMLTA. We are happy to inform you that the websites for DULT and BMLTA have been created and are available online. DULT: http://urbantransport.kar.gov.in BMLTA: http://bmlta.org We would request you to kindly review the same and give your feedback / suggestions on the same. Thanking you, Sincerely, H S Sudhira Directorate of Urban Land Transport (DULT), Urban Development Department, Government of Karnataka From edelman at greenidea.eu Tue Jul 1 18:02:18 2008 From: edelman at greenidea.eu (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:18 +0200 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?=93Futuropolis_2058=3A_Creating_Sustai?= =?windows-1252?Q?nable_Urban_Environments_through_Innovation=94?= Message-ID: <4869F29A.4010003@greenidea.eu> Futuropolis 2058: An A*STAR - Fulbright Academy Conference Creating Sustainable Urban Environments through Innovation October 21 - 22, 2008 ? Fusionopolis@One-North, Singapore ?Futuropolis 2058: Creating Sustainable Urban Environments through Innovation? is a two day conference initiated by Singapore?s Agency for Science, Technology and Research (A*STAR) and the Fulbright Academy of Science & Technology. It aims to bring together the world?s most respected technical experts and visionaries to shape the thinking and practice of urban leaders. The conference will function as a catalyst to influence how the urban environments of the future are studied, planned and managed through areas such as urban infrastructure, city management, housing, sustainable energy, social networking technologies and transportation systems... -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunni 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net CAR is over. If you WANT it. From sudhirgota at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 09:47:04 2008 From: sudhirgota at gmail.com (sudhir gota) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:47:04 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: Sustainable mode split. In-Reply-To: <001501c8db8f$135f2d30$0301a8c0@pesh1> References: <001501c8db8f$135f2d30$0301a8c0@pesh1> Message-ID: Dear Sir, Thanks for the references and mail. We would have a look at it. Well we started our research based on one of the papers which refers to that report by "The Ministry of Urban Development, Government of India, New Delhi 1998 - Traffic and Transportation Policies and Strategies in Urban Areas in India" . http://www.seas.harvard.edu/TransportAsia/workshop_papers/Padam-Singh.pdf This recommends *Desirable modal split for Indian cities of various sizes!!* Thanks a lot. We would be glad if somebody can mail us the urban ministry report. Regards Sudhir On 01/07/2008, K P Padiyar wrote: > > * *Dear Sri Gota, > This refers to your above mentioned query addressed to > sustran-discuss@listjca.apc.org dated 25.06.08. > > I have not come across any literature on optimal mode split. Research by > Dr. Newman and Dr. J. Kenworthy on urban design to reduce automobile > dependence ,normally gives per capita private vehicle kMs/annum as a > function of activity intensity (persons + jobs/ha). > Based on the mobility desired for the region, the gap between the desired > mobility and the private car use gives the magnitude of per capita kmsannum > to be met by PT and NMT. I have not seen a theoretical derivation of the > split between PT and NMT but some articles dealing with TOD. have given a > thumbrule split of 60% (PT) and 40% (NMT). The above research is derived > from motorised high GDP cities with adequate road surface. Its validity for > developing ountries is yet to be established. However figures derived must > be the upper limit for developing countries too. The latest aticle is > > "Peter Newman and Jeffrey Kenworthy (2006) "Urban Design to Reduce > Automobile Dependence", Opolis: An International Journal of Suburban and > Metropolitan Studies: Vol. 2: No. 1, Article 3. > http://repositories.cdlib.org/cssd/opolis/vol2/iss1/art3 > * *Fig. 2 of the article is the latest version which adds job density to > population density. > > This study has been utilised by Systra and CERTU of France. The article* > > "Certu > *Executive summary : Mobility and transport n? 1 : How can sustainable > mobility strategies be developed for cities in the developing countries ? - > january 2008 is available at www.*certu*.fr " > "A Panorama of Urban Mobility Strategies in developing countries. By Systra > presented in Urban Transport seminar counducted by World Bank in 2006 - > available on WB web site". It also gives optimum car use as a function of > per capita GDP. > > I hope this data meets your requirements partially. > > Yours Trul;y, > > K.P.Padiyar. > > Retired Chief Electrical Engineer of Indian Railways. > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:16:16 +0800 > From: "sudhir gota" > Subject: [sustran] Sustainable Mode Split > To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear All, > > We in CAI-Asia are looking for published research which has indicated as to > what exactly is "sustainable mode split" in a city. > When exactly do we say that city has a sustainable trip mode split? > If a city has 60%, 70% or 80% NMT and Public Transport Share than can we > suggest it has sustainable Transport? > Has anybody drawn this line? What is your take on this? > Insights would be valuable. > > Cheers > Sudhir Gota > Transport Specialist > CAI-Asia Center > Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, > ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City > Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 > Tel: +63-2-395-2843 > Fax: +63-2-395-2846 > http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia > > > ------------------------------ > > *Figure 2. Activity Intensity versus Passenger Car Use in 58 Higher-Income > Cities, 1995* > -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 00:51:54 2008 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlosfelipe Pardo) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:51:54 -0500 Subject: [sustran] 14 million USD cool license plate Message-ID: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> Hi, I read about this issue (link below) yesterday in Wall Street Journal. Abu Dhabi has a bidding system for "cool" license plates (like single digit numbers, or specific combinations). They use the money to build a hospital for traffic accident victims (of course, could also have been used for other more cause-related measures, such as speed-controling measures, etc). Link to story: http://www.autounleashed.com/14-million-license-plate-auctioned-in-uae The article I read is more detailed but I didn't find it online (if anyone finds it, would be great to have the link). I know this is not exactly the Shanghai or Singapore plate bidding, but it's related and could be taken into account as a similar version (as long as revenue is properly spent in transport-related projects). From my point of view, this is "cooler" than the Shanghai/Singapore ones. Bangkok has something similar (you pay more for a cool license plate), but I don't know if it's a bid or market-driven, and what they do with the money... would be nice to find out. Best regards, Carlosfelipe Pardo From zvi.leve at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 03:05:51 2008 From: zvi.leve at gmail.com (Zvi Leve) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:05:51 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: 14 million USD cool license plate In-Reply-To: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> References: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> Message-ID: Given that people are clearly willing to pay more to purchase an automobile (or a licence plate) which makes some sort of 'fashion statement', wouldn't it be really cool if someone could find some way to convince people to make a similar statement by 'voluntarily' paying more for the fuel that they put in their cars? For example, one could choose to buy "green petrol" which would have a certain surcharge per liter of fuel, and the proceeds could be used to offset the car's carbon footprint (for example). The tricky part is how to make the choice of fuel into a visible "fashion statement" - green licence plates anyone? Ideally the symbolic part would even be flexible with the choices that one makes. Feel like supporting your national football team this week? Buy 'viva Espagna' fuel and show your colors! Anyway, I think that the idea does have potential. Obviously no one wants to pay more taxes, but if people can make a statement by doing something, they may be willing to do that! Cheers, Zvi On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Carlosfelipe Pardo wrote: > Hi, > > I read about this issue (link below) yesterday in Wall Street Journal. Abu > Dhabi has a bidding system for "cool" license plates (like single digit > numbers, or specific combinations). They use the > money to build a hospital for traffic accident victims (of course, could > also have been used for other more cause-related measures, such as > speed-controling measures, etc). > > Link to story: > http://www.autounleashed.com/14-million-license-plate-auctioned-in-uae > > The article I read is more detailed but I didn't find it online (if anyone > finds it, would be great to have the link). I know this is not exactly the > Shanghai or > Singapore plate bidding, but it's related and could be taken into account > as a similar version (as long as revenue is properly spent in > transport-related projects). From my point of view, this is "cooler" than > the Shanghai/Singapore ones. Bangkok has something similar (you pay > more for a cool license plate), but I don't know if it's a bid or > market-driven, and what they do with the money... would be nice to find out. > > Best regards, > > Carlosfelipe Pardo > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the > real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you > can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > From edelman at greenidea.eu Sat Jul 5 05:25:38 2008 From: edelman at greenidea.eu (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:25:38 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: 14 million USD cool license plate In-Reply-To: References: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486E8742.4020306@greenidea.eu> Hi, Paying taxes is one thing, making driving look "cool" is another. Sorry, but "green petrol"? "Green license plates?". Taxes for driving are really "environmental fees". That is why I am for high taxes based on the "polluter pays principle" but against - as I have made clear in this space on numerous occasions - companies imaging - I mean to use that as a verb - themselves out of the environmental problems they cause. And I think this applies to these absurdly rich individuals, too. Obviously if one or a few people do this it is not a big deal; I see the main problem that lots and lots of much less rich people will try to "green" their cars... oh, wait, they are already doing this by driving hybrids. I mean for this argument to apply everywhere, but please try to convince me if it is doesnt apply to developing countries. No thanks, T Zvi Leve wrote: > Given that people are clearly willing to pay more to purchase an automobile > (or a licence plate) which makes some sort of 'fashion statement', wouldn't > it be really cool if someone could find some way to convince people to make > a similar statement by 'voluntarily' paying more for the fuel that they put > in their cars? For example, one could choose to buy "green petrol" which > would have a certain surcharge per liter of fuel, and the proceeds could be > used to offset the car's carbon footprint (for example). > > The tricky part is how to make the choice of fuel into a visible "fashion > statement" - green licence plates anyone? Ideally the symbolic part would > even be flexible with the choices that one makes. Feel like supporting your > national football team this week? Buy 'viva Espagna' fuel and show your > colors! > > Anyway, I think that the idea does have potential. Obviously no one wants to > pay more taxes, but if people can make a statement by doing something, they > may be willing to do that! > > Cheers, > > Zvi > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Carlosfelipe Pardo > wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> I read about this issue (link below) yesterday in Wall Street Journal. Abu >> Dhabi has a bidding system for "cool" license plates (like single digit >> numbers, or specific combinations). They use the >> money to build a hospital for traffic accident victims (of course, could >> also have been used for other more cause-related measures, such as >> speed-controling measures, etc). >> >> Link to story: >> http://www.autounleashed.com/14-million-license-plate-auctioned-in-uae >> >> The article I read is more detailed but I didn't find it online (if anyone >> finds it, would be great to have the link). I know this is not exactly the >> Shanghai or >> Singapore plate bidding, but it's related and could be taken into account >> as a similar version (as long as revenue is properly spent in >> transport-related projects). From my point of view, this is "cooler" than >> the Shanghai/Singapore ones. Bangkok has something similar (you pay >> more for a cool license plate), but I don't know if it's a bid or >> market-driven, and what they do with the money... would be nice to find out. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Carlosfelipe Pardo >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via >> YAHOOGROUPS. >> >> Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to >> join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The >> yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the >> real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you >> can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunni 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net CAR is over. If you WANT it. From zvi.leve at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 06:16:52 2008 From: zvi.leve at gmail.com (Zvi Leve) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:16:52 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: 14 million USD cool license plate In-Reply-To: <486E8742.4020306@greenidea.eu> References: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> <486E8742.4020306@greenidea.eu> Message-ID: Hey Todd, In an perfect world polluter pays and high taxes might be the ideal solution, but on planet earth no one wants to pay for anything (especially if it is "free" already) and the long term is too abstract a concept to move anyone to action. So should we stick to our principals and watch the planet go down the drain, or maybe try to change the way that people perceive things (that fuel is *just* something that one puts in the engine to make the vehicle go), which might lead to larger changes further down the road.... The profit motive is perhaps the strongest incentive known to mankind. If it takes a marketing company getting involved to change people's behaviour, then so be it. I am involved in transportation because I too want to get people out of their cars, but I cannot deny the fact that more and more people want to move in the opposite direction. And this trend is even more apparent in places where basic mobility is lacking. Calling someone "evil" because they are rich or drive a car is not going to convince many people of your arguments. More "disadvantaged" people probably aspire to be rich and to drive a care than hope to remain materially "poor" with perhaps a chance to have a better quality of life. Any tool which we can reduce car usage or compensate for the externalities which it causes is fine with me. Don't forget that paying more for fuel will increase the marginal cost of driving and that a parked car can make a statement just as much as a moving one! Anyway.... Zvi On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory wrote: > Hi, > > Paying taxes is one thing, making driving look "cool" is another. Sorry, > but "green petrol"? "Green license plates?". > > From sudhirgota at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 10:05:20 2008 From: sudhirgota at gmail.com (sudhir gota) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:05:20 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Sustainable Urban Mobility in Asia (SUMA) News Digest-Vol. 5 Issue 11 Message-ID: Sustainable Urban Mobility in Asia (SUMA) News Digest Vol. 5 Issue 11 5 July 2008 SUMA News Digest is a free weekly e-mail publication that features news, information, and events related to sustainable urban transportation in Asia. *** VISIT THE SUMA PAGES: http://www.cleanairnet.org/suma *** *NEWSREPORTS* *India ready with climate action plan: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72839.html *An electrifying transport solution: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72835.html *Vietnam shows effect of motorcycle helmets: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72837.html *Asian Cities Back Climate-friendly Future: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72836.html *China: Xi'an Sustainable Urban Transport:* http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72838.html *Car-Free Day reduces air pollution: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72824.html** *ADB: Asia needs sustainable cities: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72823.html** *Jakarta needs balanced development: * http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72800.html *Ahmedabad Metro gets red signal:* http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72801.html *P1B set aside for PUV gas conversion : ** http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72803.html* ** *Odd-even rule to reduce traffic by 70%: ** http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72804.html* ** *Facing urban congestion: ** http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72805.html* ** *Delhi Metro most comfortable mode:* http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72764.html** ** * * ** *INTERESTING FINDS * *Avert the great guzzle - Fuel Economy Regulations: Setting the Principles RIGHT: *By Anumita Roychowdhury,Vivek Chattopadhyaya,Jayeeta Sen & Priyanka Chandola This report has come at the apt time when governments across Asia are still pondering as to how to absorb the impacts of increase in fuel prices. This report has an interesting take as to how fuel economy can solve lot of problems. The authors state that "The oil price surge has caught the market watchers and media agog. Expert views war on price insulation, energy security and our vulnerability. But oil price peaks do not make lasting impression on the public memory as the Government either makes generous cuts in petrol and diesel prices and taxes or caps its increase to take the heat off the price rage. Consumers are thus insulated at a huge cost. Vehicle industry is not pushed to innovate to ensure substantial fuel savings through efficiency gains. There are no checks on them as they continue to drift towards bigger and more powerful cars. Price shocks have not provoked policies to prevent the oil guzzle for a more energy secure and low carbon future. How fuel efficient, are our cars? Nobody knows. The fuel economy level of Indian car models is confidential. There is no official policy to get carmakers to publish the fuel economy levels of models they make. The valued Indian customer relies on anecdotal information, the car-owner grapevine, car companies' self-proclamations or data the niche car magazines publish. There is no official certification data to back the claim of the car companies." Read more of this article and please pass on the comments to anumitar@yahoo.com http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72816.html *Compilation of Public Opinion Data on Tolls and Road Pricing: *Johanna Zmud & Carlos Arce This NCHRP SYNTHESIS report extracts information from several projects and brings out the public opinion data on tolls and road pricing. The various projects on such schemes have been used and public opinions collated to understand the public behavior on such schemes. Traditionally, prior empirical research in transportation indicated that public acceptance of tolls and road pricing is low?in spite of the perception of traffic problems as serious. These prior studies did not have the broad set and more recent data that are compiled and presented in this synthesis. Read more of this bibliography????.. http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72808.html *Climate Impacts of Air Quality Policy: Switching to a Natural Gas-Fueled Public Transportation System in New Delhi : *Conorc O Reynolds & Milind Kandlikar This brilliant paper researches on how the move to switch public transport vehicles fuel to natural gas impacted air pollution and subsequently the climate "Between 2001 and 2003, public transport vehicles in New Delhi were required to switch their fuel to natural gas in an attempt to reduce their air pollution impacts. This study examines the climatic impacts of New Delhi's fuel switching policy,and outlines implications for such efforts in rapidly industrializing countries. Natural gas is mostly composed of methane, an important greenhouse gas. Emitted aerosols (black carbon, particulate organic carbon, and sulfate) also cause radiative forcing. We find that methane and black carbon emissions are critical contributors to the change in carbon dioxide equivalent [CO2(e)] emissions. In New Delhi, the switch to natural gas results in a 30% increase in CO2(e) when the impact of aerosols is not considered. However, when aerosol emissions are taken into account in our model, the net effect of the switch is estimated to be a 10% reduction in CO2(e), and there may be as much as a 30% reduction in CO2(e). There is significant potential for emissions reductions through the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) Clean Development Mechanism for such fuel switching projects" Read more: http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es801744p.html FOOD FOR THOUGHT (Source : http://www.gtkp.com/sectors.asp?step=4&typeOfPage=1&contentID=545 ) ? *In Malaysia, motorcyclist contributes to almost 60% or the fatal accidents.*** ? *A recent study also by Malaysian Institute of Road Safety Research (Miros) has shown that 3.80 meters is the safe control width in Malaysia to ensure that the lane is safe for all motorcycle riders and comfortable to do overtaking maneuvers.*** UPDATE Asian Cities in order to improve public transport have embraced the concept of BRTS. In many cities it is under active implementation and in many cities it is under planning stage. CAI-Asia has updated the BRTS status in Asia collecting details from various sources. Please visit http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-59592.html to know more about the progress? * * * * MARK YOUR CALENDARS Fourteenth International Conference on Urban Transport and the Environment in the 21st Century, 1 - 3 September 2008, Malta, http://www.wessex.ac.uk/conferences/2008/urban08/ PODCAR City Sustainable Transport Conference, 14-16 September 2008, Ithaca, New York, http://www.podcar.org/ithacaconference/ UITP 2nd Sustainable Development Conference Making tomorrow today 22-24 October 2008, Milan, Italy http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72425.html Better Air Quality (BAQ) Workshop 2008 12-14 November 2008 Bangkok, Thailand http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/article-72312.html See more SUT events http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/propertyvalue-27089.html See CAI-Asia's events calendar http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412/propertyvalue-13577.html * * * CONTRIBUTE * * * To contribute articles, news items, or event announcements for the next issue, send an email with the complete details and URL source to suma-news-owner@googlegroups.com with subject "FOR SUMA NEWS". mailto: suma-news-owner@googlegroups.com?subject=FOR_SUMA_NEWS< suma-news-owner@googlegroups.com?subject=FOR_SUMA_NEWS>. Past issues from March and April 2008 are found at http://groups.google.com/group/suma-news * * * ABOUT SUMA * * * The Sustainable Urban Mobility in Asia (SUMA) program of the Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities ( www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia), Asian Development Bank ( www.adb.org), EMBARQ-the World Resources Institute Center for Sustainable Transport ( http://embarq.wri.org ), GTZ Sustainable Urban Transport Project ( www.sutp.org), Interface for Cycling Expertise ( www.cycling.nl), Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (www.itdp.org), and United Nations Center for Regional Development (www.uncrd.or.jp/est) is made possible through the generous support of the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency ( www.sida.se). SUMA works with Asian countries and cities to strengthen then formulation and implementation of sustainable urban transportation policies, specifically in (i) Improving urban air quality by adopting AQM planning in sustainable transport policies and promoting public transportation, (ii) Improving road safety by encouraging non-motorized transport and public transport, and (iii) Reducing transport's contribution to climate change by adopting a co-benefits approach with urban air quality management. -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia From yanivbin at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 16:54:15 2008 From: yanivbin at gmail.com (Vinay Baindur) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:24:15 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: any details on Nano and safety and environmental regs? In-Reply-To: <005f01c86454$509e6f10$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> References: <683ba1ca0801280340t2b4c59f3i1b4268c8773de2d1@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c86454$509e6f10$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> Message-ID: <86b8a7050807060054l5ac1b07cxe91a9843f8f7a821@mail.gmail.com> Looks like phone calls from Tata sales execs on Nano bookings from tata motors offices in ahmedabad have already begun. even though it looks like the car will cost more or much more that earlier planned. Have any demands to the govt to cut costs for buses worked as yet Almost all over India I believe after the price hike in petrol and diesel 30 days ago public transport already costs as much as 15-20 % more Many people in Bangalore are leaving their cars at home to ride the Volvo bus to the new Aiprot But BMTC which has a number of grades of services ( at least 4-5) is still highly deficient in providing normal buses to all passengers. It has already become high end profit orieneted since 2002 it has been making huge profits. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Walter Hook wrote: > I was "mis" quoted in the Daily News saying the Nano does not meet Western > emissions, road worthyness and safety standards. What i said was that it > "might" not but that i didn't know. > > Does anybody know for sure? Would it be in compliance with euro IV or EPA > standards, etc? > > -----Original Message----- > From: sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org > [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+whook = > itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf > Of Sarath Guttikunda > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:41 AM > To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org > Cc: Anumita; RThom@wri.org > Subject: [sustran] Re: [SUSTRAN] Re: Tata Nano: > CriminalizingMobilityorMobilizing Crime > > Dear Anumita, > > Thanks for your elaborate email.. > > My 2 cents, > > In an interview with Ratan Tata, he mentioned that goal behind making Nano > is family safety and he is inspired to making Nano after seeing a family on > a motorcycle. I have seen some arguments in papers and on net, that the > largest jump in buying a Nano will come from the MC group. This I doubt. > > A simple math between MCs and Cars, assuming all gasoline (priced at > Rs.50per liter) and a family traveling 30 km per day. MCs give 60 km > per lit, > which translates to Rs.0.83 per km or Rs.7800 per year per family. If the > family jumps to a Nano, assuming a 20 km per lit, math translates to > Rs.2.50per km or > Rs.23,400 per year per family. One year = 6 working days per week and 52 > weeks. > > On an average, a middle class family with MC in India earns between 10K to > 15K. Even if we take the higher end of 15K, this accounts to 4% for MCs and > 13% for cars on fuel expenses per year. That is a big change. > > This does not account for the price difference (~Rs.40K for MC and > Rs.125Kfor Nano) and interests they will incur for 5 or 10 years of > loans, > insurance, and maintenance. And lets not forget Parking - even if it is > cheap compared to the developed nations. > > There is no doubt that with growing demand for cars, Nano will be a hit > (similar to Maruti 800 when it arrived in the 80's) - given the production > levels are as high as the current demand. What we saw on TV is a glimpse of > the car which is still a year away or less from hitting the roads. A good > public awareness campaign with numbers will do good - explaining what > people > will end up spending - both in terms on money and time (leading to more > congestion). > > MCs are by far the largest number in the country and will remain so for the > coming decades. On the other side, a good price differential and extra tax > for cars, Nano could shift some people away from buying SUVs, who knows :-) > Cars are not bad, but more cars on road make it worse. > > Similarly, there are some discussions on how Nano will cut into the 3Ws and > Taxi market, which is also stretching the limits. In the cities like Delhi, > Mumbai, Hyderabad, or Bangalore, parking has already become a problem, and > more cars will not make it easy. Under a parking cap, 3Ws and Taxis still > rule the short trip version. > > As we argue on cars and MCs, as Anumita pointed out, we have to also > understand the lack of "public transport" in place to take the current > travel loads. And also the share of diesel on road. We are basically stuck > at "Access to Mobility". > > with regards, > Sarath > > -- > Sarath Guttikunda > New Delhi, India > Phone: +91 9891 315 946 > Email: sguttikunda@gmail.com > > On Jan 25, 2008 11:56 AM, Anumita wrote: > > > Lee, > > > > I guess all of us are saying the same thing. Clearly, this fuss over Nano > > is just not > > about Nano but about cars, all cars - big, small, cheap, expensive cars. > > Nano has > > given us the chance to focus the public debate on congestion, oil > guzzling > > and > > emissions and make these concerns more visible. This debate is certainly > > very > > nuanced. > > > > -- Look at the Indian paradox today - super cheap cars like Nano will > > expand the > > bottom of the market pyramid when rising incomes have already triggered a > > steady > > drift to bigger cars and SUVs. So the ends are stretched both ways. Car > > companies > > will continue to compete on costs in a price sensitive market. With > frugal > > engineering, > > weak regulations, fiscal largess to the car companies, even for their > > production > > facilities, cars can come very cheap. Question is how do we deal with it? > > > > -- Interestingly, in a car to car comparison nano or any small car can > > offer fuel > > savings - certainly more sensible than the bigger, more powerful, high > > performance > > cars that are about several hundreds per 1000 people in many > > industrialized cities. > > But the new investments in the Indian auto sector will have to be linked > > with stringent > > emissions regulations, in-use compliance requirements and efficiency > > standards. > > > > - But the reason why we are debating Nano, and, are so concerned today, > is > > because we still have the time, the chance and the alternatives to plan > > mobility > > systems differently in Indian cities. We already have a reasonable > > strength in the > > usage of public transport at least in big cities, NMT and walking -- that > > if protected > > and improved can help us to take an alternative route and avoid huge > > emissions and > > oil guzzling in Indian cities. Building alternatives at this stage of > > motorisation is critical > > -- cars may drive growth and aspirations, but they can never meet the > > commuting > > needs of the urban majority. > > > > -- But this is where we draw a blank. As in the rest of the world we have > > also realized > > that to a very great extent mobility management hinges on fiscal measures > > (in > > addition to providing good public transport). But the wisdom of taxing a > > product for > > the vice and not just for their values is still quite alien to the Indian > > and many other > > Asian fiscal regimes. The governments are strongly entrenched in command > > and > > control strategies. They are still not looking at fiscal measures that > can > > change > > consumer and commuter choices, push cities to make better choices on > > transportation options, create alternative sources of revenue and broaden > > the > > revenue base to fund mobility and technology transition. But this will > > require a > > different kind of maturity and sophistication in our fiscal regimen. > > > > -- Greening of taxes will be an even bigger battle in the present context > > of > > governance and public awareness. Aspirational vote bank never says tax > our > > cars > > and the governance systems in cities are not strong enough to force it > > down. > > Therefore, just the opposite is happening today. The city governments > > penalize buses > > by taxing them higher per passenger they carry than cars that carry lot > > less and use > > up more road space etc. > > > > -- In Delhi, we are amidst discussions on fuel taxes, parking charges, > > road taxes etc. > > But resistance is unbelievable. Even if matters move in Delhi it will > > still be a drop in > > the ocean. The policy mandate on transportation and mobility matters is > so > > decentralized that it is the ability of all individual cities that will > > ultimately decide the > > progress on this front. National policies like JNURM etc are still not > > strong enough > > framework to create a template for the cities. Smaller cities are going > to > > be even > > more badly hit by small car explosion as public policies on public > > transport are > > virtually non existent for these cities - just because these cities do > not > > have high > > density travel corridors to justify investment in 'profitable' public > > transport. This > > means millions are left to organise their own mobility and will happily > > graduate from > > bicycles and cycle rickshaws to cheap cars. > > > > -- We need to understand that when it comes to practical planning for > > mobility > > management in our cities the basic policy tools, databases, policy > > indicators of > > sustainability etc do not even exist to enable city level planning and > > action. Even > > public voice remains dormant. This is where we need to move fast to see > > some real > > action. Otherwise, good ideas will remain good ideas while cars take > over. > > > > Anumita > > > > ****************************** > > > > > > ************************** > > > Anumita Roychowdhury > > > Associate Director,Research and Advocacy > > > Centre for Science and Environment > > > 41, Tughlakabad Institutional Area > > > New Delhi 110062 > > > Tel: 91-11-29955124, 29955125, 29956394 > > > Fax: 91-11-29955879, 29955870 > > > Email: anumita@cseindia.org > > > Website: www.cseindia.org > > > *************************************************** > > > > > > On 24 Jan 2008 at 10:40, Lee Schipper wrote: > > > > > Anumita, what do you say? Sounds like we're between a piece of rubber > > > and a spare tyre > > > > > > > > > Lee Schipper > > > EMBARQ Fellow > > > EMBARQ, the WRI Center for Sustainable Transport > > > www.embarq.wri.org > > > and > > > Visiting Scholar > > > UC Transportation Center > > > Berkeley CA USA www.uctc.net > > > skype: mrmeter > > > +1 510 642 6889 > > > Cell +1 202 262 7476 > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the > real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you > can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > From sutp at sutp.org Mon Jul 7 20:14:33 2008 From: sutp at sutp.org (Sustainable Urban Transport Project- SUTP) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:14:33 -0500 Subject: [sustran] SUTP Newsletter, May-June 2008 Message-ID: <4871FA99.504@sutp.org> Sustainable Urban Transport Project (GTZ SUTP) Update May-June, 2008 This newsletter gives updates on the SUTP resources, news and events related to our topic of interest. For more information or feedback, please contact sutp@sutp.org, or visit our website at www.sutp.org *****Project related News***** (For greater detail of the news below, please click the link below each item) GTZ delivers 2-day and 6-day training courses on Mass Transit in Indore (India) 1 July 2008 GTZ SUTP has delivered training courses on Mass Transit in Indore (India) from June 26 to July 1, as part of the SUMA* project. The training courses were held in cooperation with WRI-Embarq and ITDP, and main trainers were Dar?o Hidalgo (WRI), Shreya Gadepalli (ITDP), Carlosfelipe Pardo (GTZ). The courses were, a 6-day course targeted towards preselected Indian future trainers and a 2-day course for local government officials, transport planners and various other mass transit stakeholders. More information on the training courses can be had by sending an email to sutp[at]sutp.org Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1201&Itemid=1&lang=uk GTZ-SUTP contributes to the regional EST forum in Lao PDR 24 June 2008 The regional EST forum is a joint initiative of UNCRD and the Ministry of the Environment, Japan, which provides a strategic/knowledge platform for sharing experiences and disseminating among Asian countries best practices, policy instruments, tools, technologies on sustainable transport. The 2nd National consultation workshop provides an opportunity for the Public Works and Transport Institute (PTI), to introduce their currently-developed draft strategies and action plan as well as to receive comments from related agencies and international experts. This workshop was held at the Ministry of Public Work and Transport in Vientiane on June 23-24 with representatives from various local agencies, including department of transport, water resources and environment agency, land use agency, traffic police, road safety partnership, etc. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1202&Itemid=1&lang=uk Chinese translation of module 5e (Transport and Climate Change) 16 June 2008 Module 5e of the GTZ Sourcebook on Sustainable Urban Transport for Policymakers (Climate Change and Transport) has been translated into Chinese by Xiaojia Bao and Yan Peng of the CAI-Asia China Project Office and published today. The module has been originally written by Holger Dalkmann and Charlotte Brannigan. It provides an overview of the challenges related to climate change and transport, and describes measures to mitigate the impact of transport on climate change. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1185&Itemid=1&lang=uk GTZ presents at event in Cali, Colombia 12 June 2008 Carlosfelipe Pardo from GTZ SUTP gave the opening presentation at the Fourth Congress on Roads and Transit "Expovial 2008" in Cali, Colombia. His presentation was entitled "Financiaci?n de la movilidad" (Financing mobility). The event was organized by the Colombian Chamber of Infrastructure, and participants were from various Colombian cities directly related to implementation of road transport projects in the country. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1178&Itemid=1&lang=uk Cities for Mobility Congress in Stuttgart from June 2-4, 2008 06 June 2008 Being coordinated by the City of Stuttgart, the annual congress attracted over 400 participants from 40 countries. Cities for Mobility is a global network of cities with the objective to promote the development of sustainable and efficient transportation systems in the member cities. Manfred Breithaupt presented in the workshop on Public transport on BRT developments. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1177&Itemid=1&lang=uk International Transport Forum 28-30 May 2008, Leipzig, Germany 02 June 2008 Manfred Breithaupt, GTZ's Senior Transport Advisor, presented at the International Transport Forum, this year under the title "Transport and Energy - the Challenges of Climate Change" in a workshop session on "Transport CO2 Emissions in Emerging Economies". Climate change and growing energy consumption are a subject of increasing political attention worldwide. For transport, finding the right balance between facilitating access and exchanges and reducing transport emissions and dependence on oil is perhaps the greatest challenge that the sector has faced. Many Transport Ministers of the Forum's Member Countries took part at the meeting, and there were representatives from 53 countries. The meeting was also addressed by the German Chancellor, Dr. Angela Merkel. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1164&Itemid=1&lang=uk GTZ participation in UNEP/Statistics Sweden meeting on energy statistics and subsidies 26 May 2008 On May 26, UNEP and Statistics Sweden hosted a workshop on energy subsidies and statistics in Geneva. Armin Wagner presented GTZ's approach in surveying and assessing international fuel prices. The presentation highlighted the need to rationalise fuel price adjustment mechanisms and to provide more transparency on how taxes/levies on transport fuels are used. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1165&Itemid=1&lang=uk New GTZ newsgroup ?GTZ Fuel Price News? Our newsgroup ?GTZ Fuel Prices News? aims at facilitating the exchange of information on recent developments related to fuel prices and taxation, subsidies and energy demand in the transport sector. In addition, a fortnightly newsletter summarizes key developments, new publications and upcoming events. ?International Fuel Prices? is a long-time effort of GTZ (German Technical Cooperation) on behalf of the German Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development (BMZ) to provide decision-makers with data on fuel prices on a global scale. The worldwide transparency and comparability of fuel prices is an important preliminary step towards the national implementation of rational energy pricing policy. More information on: www.gtz.de/fuelprices To subscribe, please contact armin.wagner@gtz.de SUTP delivers training on planning and design for bicycles 26 May 2008 Dr. Thirayoot Limanond was invited to deliver a training on bicycle planning and design in a one-day training course, organized by the Office of Energy Regional 10 (Chiang Mai) on Saturday 17th May 2008. This training course was aimed to address the growing concerns on energy crisis issues, by building capacity of Chiang Mai staff on designing bicycle lanes, bicycle facilities as well as other bicycle programs. The ultimate goal of this training is to promote the use of bicycle usage in the Chiang Mai area. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1162&Itemid=40&lang=uk BRT course in Guatemala 13 May 2008 GTZ SUTP, along with Nestlac and other partners in Latin America, held a training course on Bus Rapid Transit Planning during May 8-9, 2008 in Guatemala City, Guatemala. The course was be led by Ang?lica Castro (former Manager of TransMilenio) and supported by Carlosfelipe Pardo (GTZ) and other speakers. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1111&Itemid=40&lang=uk TRANSPOWER workshop on Traffic Management in Skopje/Macedonia 09 May 2008 TRANSPOWER-workshop was held in Skopje, capital of Macedonia (FYROM), on June 3-5, 2008. Focusing on Traffic Management, the event allowed knowledge-sharing on state-of-the-art solutions as well as for direct exchange on challenges in implementation of traffic management solutions. Further, case studies and good/bad practices from member cities have been presented and discussed in-depth. GTZ is member of the competence team of TRANSPOWER and focuses on public transport. The workshop is the fourth meeting of the entire consortium after a kick-off meeting in G?rlitz/Germany, a mid-term conference in Halandri/Greece and a workshop on non-motorised transport in Sibiu/Romania. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1150&Itemid=40&lang=uk Transport Sector and Climate Change ? Online Debate launched by the International Transport Forum 08 May 2008 The International Transport Forum has launched its second online debate on ?The Transport Sector and Climate Change? in preparation for its upcoming Forum, to be held in Leipzig on 28-30 May. ?The transport sector is responsible for a significant and growing share of greenhouse gas emissions and most indications are that transport activity and emissions will double or more in the next 30 years?, said Jack Short, Secretary General of the International Transport Forum in Paris on Monday, at the launch of their second online debate. ?On the other hand?, explained Short ?political objectives have set global emission reductions of the order of 50% by the middle of the century. The stark conclusion is that we do not have the policies in place or planned that can stabilise, let alone reduce transport emissions.? The Forum web debate has been launched to encourage public input to the discussions in Leipzig. Input from the online debate and the best questions and comments will be brought to the attention of delegates and Ministers at the Forum. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1149&Itemid=40&lang=uk Cities Development Initiative for Asia (CDIA) 07 May 2008 The German Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development (BMZ) along with the Asian Development Bank (ADB), founded the Cities Development Initiative for Asia (CDIA). Dedicated to promoting sustainable urban development in Asia, CDIA links interested Asian cities to the resources they need worldwide. CDIA also cooperates with existing city networks in fostering urban management capabilities. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1148&Itemid=40&lang=uk EEA Report: Climate for a Transport Change 06 May 2008 The European Environmental Agency released a report titled ?Climate for a transport change?. The report represents a summary of selected issues from the European Environment Agency Transport and Environment Reporting Mechanism (EEA TERM) set of transport and environment integration indicators. The objective of this report is to indicate some of the main challenges to reducing the environmental impacts of transport and to make suggestions to improve the environmental performance of the transport system as a whole. The report examines issues centred around transport and climate change, which need to be addressed in the coming years. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1141&Itemid=40&lang=uk Workshop on Co-benefits of Climate Change in Asia 05 May 2008 The Institute of Global Environmental Strategies (IGES) in collaboration with the Ministry of the Environment, Japan (MoEJ) and the United States Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA) organized the US-Japan Co-benefits Workshop entitled ?The Co-Benefits of Climate Actions in Asia.? Dr. Thirayoot Limanond from GTZ-SUTP participated in this event that gathered approximately 30 participants from various international organizations, research institutes, government offices, and policy makers from Asia and North America, with a main goal to bring researchers and policymakers together to examine obstacles to and opportunities for enhancing the policy impacts of co-benefits in Asia. Link: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1140&Itemid=40&lang=uk ****Upcoming Events about Sustainable Urban Transport**** *segregated chronologically Date : 16.07.2008 Venue : Vienna, AT Title : Travel Demand Management Symposium Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=215 Date : 12.09.2008 Venue : Chennai, India Title : Best Practices to Relieve Congestion Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=237 Date : 23.09.2008 Venue : Berlin, DE Title : Innotrans 2008 Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=219 Date : 25.09.2008 Venue : Stuttgart, DE Title : Networks for Mobility 2008 Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=238 Date : 22.10.2008 Venue : Sydney, AU Title : 9th World Congress of Metropolis Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=248 Date : 22.10.2008 Venue : Milan, IT Title : 2nd Sustainable Development Congress Read more : http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&func=details&did=239 More events can be viewed from the link below http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_eventlist&Itemid=56&lang=uk ***IMPORTANT NOTE*** If you haven't registered to our site or were only registered to the previous website, we would be pleased if you can validate your email and account info just by going to http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=registers&lang=en and registering on-line. Thank you very much for your consideration. SUTP TEAM From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 00:39:05 2008 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlosfelipe Pardo) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:39:05 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Investing in sustainable transport and branding (WAS 14 million USD cool license plate) In-Reply-To: References: <486E471A.1060206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48738A19.6060102@gmail.com> I was amazed when I saw cars such as Porsches and Lotus on the road in Singapore (where car prices are approx 3 times the regular market value). Paul Barter later mentioned that this is an effect of higher costs on goods, where very rich people will buy something stupidly expensive, just to show that they're very very rich and exclusive (we never really got to discuss this at length). I think the same happens with these license plates: exclusiveness and "show-off" factor makes them spend stupidly high amounts of money in a piece of metal which has the only characteristic of being unique and easy to remember. I once heard a high-level staff of a UN agency talk about his one-digit license plate with great pride, which was given to him because he was a UN employee. So, similar to what Zvi is saying, my main argument is related to the fact that one could take advantage of these "prestige factors" by creating specific regulations that redirect the revenue of these interesting fashion statements and invest them in sustainable transport measures. I am sure all of us would be able to come up with ideas of what to do with 14 million USD from a license plate auction! And yes, some sort of branding is necessary to say "this guy paid a lot, and his money is being used for x and y stuff to improve". That is "his ride is not so free". I was also discussing yesterday that people riding public transport should also be given feedback on their positive impact on the environment, society (health, safety) and economy due to their riding a bus or metro or whatever. Could be a sign on the station entrance showing approximately how many emissions are saved because they're not using a car (also similar to what John Ernst once said about a large screen in exclusive public transport lanes that would show how many people are moving in that lane, while another screen showing how many (few) people ride on the mixed lane. I won't comment Todd's remark about the rationale behind charging (or branding) one or another of these transport-related elements (fuel or whatever). I leave it to others. Best regards, Carlos. Zvi Leve wrote: > Given that people are clearly willing to pay more to purchase an > automobile (or a licence plate) which makes some sort of 'fashion > statement', wouldn't it be really cool if someone could find some way > to convince people to make a similar statement by 'voluntarily' paying > more for the fuel that they put in their cars? For example, one could > choose to buy "green petrol" which would have a certain surcharge per > liter of fuel, and the proceeds could be used to offset the car's > carbon footprint (for example). > > The tricky part is how to make the choice of fuel into a visible > "fashion statement" - green licence plates anyone? Ideally the > symbolic part would even be flexible with the choices that one makes. > Feel like supporting your national football team this week? Buy 'viva > Espagna' fuel and show your colors! > > Anyway, I think that the idea does have potential. Obviously no one > wants to pay more taxes, but if people can make a statement by doing > something, they may be willing to do that! > > Cheers, > > Zvi > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Carlosfelipe Pardo > > wrote: > > Hi, > > I read about this issue (link below) yesterday in Wall Street > Journal. Abu Dhabi has a bidding system for "cool" license plates > (like single digit numbers, or specific combinations). They use the > money to build a hospital for traffic accident victims (of course, > could also have been used for other more cause-related measures, > such as speed-controling measures, etc). > > Link to story: > http://www.autounleashed.com/14-million-license-plate-auctioned-in-uae > > The article I read is more detailed but I didn't find it online > (if anyone finds it, would be great to have the link). I know this > is not exactly the Shanghai or > Singapore plate bidding, but it's related and could be taken into > account as a similar version (as long as revenue is properly spent in > transport-related projects). From my point of view, this is > "cooler" than the Shanghai/Singapore ones. Bangkok has something > similar (you pay > more for a cool license plate), but I don't know if it's a bid or > market-driven, and what they do with the money... would be nice to > find out. > > Best regards, > > Carlosfelipe Pardo > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join > the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot > post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site > makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of > people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus > on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > From sudhirgota at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 08:33:57 2008 From: sudhirgota at gmail.com (sudhir gota) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:33:57 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Transportation Expenditure Message-ID: > > Dear all, Taking the discussion little bit away into the "Transportation Expenditure" and "fuel costs" - many would be surprised to know that 1. An Average American Consumer pays more for Transportation and less for Food !! ( "means" more important than "ends" ??) 2. Singapore is showing reduction in Family Transportation Expenditure ( its 2003 values are less than 1993 values ??) we in CAI Asia are looking in detail in these aspects and hopefully 2008 survey in Singapore would show more results. Insights and available research and surveys would be helpful :-) Regards Sudhir -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia From Armin.Wagner at gtz.de Wed Jul 9 18:52:44 2008 From: Armin.Wagner at gtz.de (Wagner Armin GTZ 4413) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:52:44 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: Transportation Expenditure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <330B6D737D1475458AC93F02A6035D7502C8F0F8@CLUEXVS1.gtz.de> Dear all, Please note for Europe-27 the results of the EUROSTAT-Household Budget Survey: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/PGP_PRD_CAT_PREREL/PGE_CAT_PREREL_YEAR_2008/PGE_CAT_PREREL_YEAR_2008_MONTH_06/3-19062008-EN-AP.PDF (main page: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page?_pageid=1090,30070682,1090_33076576&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL) Unfortunately, data are as of 2005 only. However, it shows a wide varity in relative expenditures for food, transport and other categories: Before coming to conlsuions, from my pespective, the following questions arise: - Relationship expenditures for housing vs. transport on individual household level. Living in dense cities can mean offsetting higher rents by less need for travel. - Total income: It might not be a problem in parts of Europe - but: reported incomes in household surveys may differ from real incomes, in particular if non-cash transfers are included. There are surveys where transport costs were almost as high as the reported income levels, as other expenditures where met through other typs of transfers - Social implications: see table "Household consumption expenditure" in EUROSTAT-paper - in varies substantially across quintiles and it seems difficult to draw conclusions based on the "average household". Other publications are (if I remember correctly, Todd Litman shared these once): A HEAVY LOAD: The Combined Housing and Transportation Burdens of Working Families http://www.nhc.org/pdf/pub_heavy_load_10_06.pdf Family Spending - A report on the Expenditure and Food Survey Comprehensive overview of all aspects of household expenditure and income for the calendar year 2006 derived from the Expenditure and Food Survey (EFS) of around 7,000 households in the UK. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Product.asp?vlnk=361 Best regards, Armin Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Best regards, Armin Wagner ***************************** Transport Policy Advisor Deutsche Gesellschaft f?r Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH (German Technical Cooperation) Division 44 - Water, Energy, Transport Transport and Mobility P.O. Box 5180 65726 Eschborn, Germany Tel.: + 49 6196 79- 6467 Fax: + 49 6196 79-80 6467 E-Mail: Armin.Wagner@gtz.de Skype: wagnerarmin http://www.gtz.de/transport -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+armin.wagner=gtz.de@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+armin.wagner=gtz.de@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of sudhir gota Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:34 AM To: Carlosfelipe Pardo; sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Transportation Expenditure > > Dear all, Taking the discussion little bit away into the "Transportation Expenditure" and "fuel costs" - many would be surprised to know that 1. An Average American Consumer pays more for Transportation and less for Food !! ( "means" more important than "ends" ??) 2. Singapore is showing reduction in Family Transportation Expenditure ( its 2003 values are less than 1993 values ??) we in CAI Asia are looking in detail in these aspects and hopefully 2008 survey in Singapore would show more results. Insights and available research and surveys would be helpful :-) Regards Sudhir -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). Deutsche Gesellschaft fuer Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH; Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office Eschborn/Taunus, Germany; Registergericht/Registered at Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main, Germany; Eintragungs-Nr./Registration no. HRB 12394; Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates/Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Erich Stather, State Secretary; Geschaeftsfuehrer/Managing Directors: Dr. Bernd Eisenblaetter, Wolfgang Schmitt From phaizan at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 18:57:29 2008 From: phaizan at gmail.com (Faizan Jawed) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:27:29 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Anyone in Copenhagen? Message-ID: Dear Friends, I am from India traveling around the globe studying cities with innovative and sustainable public transport systems. I am in Copenhagen these days. I was wondering if there is anyone in the city that I could meet who could guide me in my research on the "Role of Public Transport in shaping Sustainable Humane Habitats". Please visit: http://www.fosterandpartners.com/News/335/Default.aspx With kind regards, Faizan Jawed. 2008 RIBA Norman Foster Traveling Scholar. Berkeley Prize 2008 Finalist. Student of Architecture, Rizvi College of Architecture, Mumbai. phaizan@gmail.com From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 21:47:02 2008 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlosfelipe Pardo) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:47:02 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Spanish translation of the module 5d - CDM in the transport sector Message-ID: <4874B346.6060700@gmail.com> ENGLISH: Module 5d of the GTZ sourcebook, entitled "The CDM in the transport sector" has been translated to Spanish and published today. This module describes the rationale behind the Carbon Development Mechanism (CDM) and how it could be applied to the transport sector, while also providing a case study of the UNFCCC approved TransMilenio CDM methodology. The module has been translated by Laura Varano, and it has also been translated to Portuguese and Chinese. It can be downloaded here: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=330 ESPA?OL: El m?dulo 5d del Texto de Referencia de GTZ, titulado "El MDL en el sector transporte" ha sido traducido al espa?ol y publicado hoy. Este m?dulo describe el trasfondo del Mecanismo de Desarrollo Limpio (MDL) y c?mo se puede aplicar en el sector transporte, adem?s de proporcionar un estudio de caso de la metodolog?a MDL aprobada para Transmilenio. El m?dulo ha sido traducido por Laura Varano, y tambi?n fue traducido anteriormente a Portugu?s y Chino. Se puede descargar aqu?: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=330 From sutp at sutp.org Wed Jul 9 21:48:06 2008 From: sutp at sutp.org (Sustainable Urban Transport Project- SUTP) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:48:06 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Spanish translation of the module 5d - CDM in the transport sector Message-ID: <4874B386.7040705@sutp.org> ENGLISH: Module 5d of the GTZ sourcebook, entitled "The CDM in the transport sector" has been translated to Spanish and published today. This module describes the rationale behind the Carbon Development Mechanism (CDM) and how it could be applied to the transport sector, while also providing a case study of the UNFCCC approved TransMilenio CDM methodology. The module has been translated by Laura Varano, and it has also been translated to Portuguese and Chinese. It can be downloaded here: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=330 ESPA?OL: El m?dulo 5d del Texto de Referencia de GTZ, titulado "El MDL en el sector transporte" ha sido traducido al espa?ol y publicado hoy. Este m?dulo describe el trasfondo del Mecanismo de Desarrollo Limpio (MDL) y c?mo se puede aplicar en el sector transporte, adem?s de proporcionar un estudio de caso de la metodolog?a MDL aprobada para Transmilenio. El m?dulo ha sido traducido por Laura Varano, y tambi?n fue traducido anteriormente a Portugu?s y Chino. Se puede descargar aqu?: http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=330 From litman at vtpi.org Thu Jul 10 00:48:43 2008 From: litman at vtpi.org (Todd Alexander Litman) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:48:43 -0700 Subject: [sustran] Re: Transportation Expenditure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080709082838.07e0c188@mail.islandnet.com> We've done some research on these issues using North American data, published in our report "Transportation Affordability" (http://www.vtpi.org/affordability.pdf ). The results show that in the U.S. in 2005, overall about 18% of household budgets were devoted to transportation, making it second to housing and larger than food - in fact the actual number is probably about 20% if vehicle garages are categorized as a transportation cost rather than a housing cost - and the budget share devoted to transport has probably increased during the last three years due to rising fuel prices. Household transportation expenditures increase with rates of automobile ownership and use. The portion of household budgets devoted to transportation increases for households located in automobile-dependent locations. The lowest income quintile devotes a relatively small portion of budgets to transportation overall, because so many do not own an automobile, but low-income households that do own a vehicle spend a relatively large portion of expenditures to transportation. This indicates the value to low income households of having good travel options that reduce their need to own motor vehicles. This is increasingly important with rising fuel prices. My paper discusses a number of specific transportation and land use policies that can help reduce the financial burden of transportation to consumers, particularly those with lower incomes as automobile dependency increases. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about this analysis, or if you have any comparable data from other countries that we could incorporate into our study. Best wishes, -Todd Litman At 04:33 PM 7/8/2008, sudhir gota wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > >Taking the discussion little bit away into the "Transportation Expenditure" >and "fuel costs" - many would be surprised to know >that > > > 1. An Average American Consumer pays more for Transportation and less for > Food !! ( "means" more important than "ends" ??) > 2. Singapore is showing reduction in Family Transportation Expenditure ( > its 2003 values are less than 1993 values ??) > >we in CAI Asia are looking in detail in these aspects and hopefully 2008 >survey in Singapore would show more results. Insights and available research >and surveys would be helpful :-) > >Regards >Sudhir > > > > > >-- >Sudhir Gota >Transport Specialist >CAI-Asia Center >Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, >ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City >Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 >Tel: +63-2-395-2843 >Fax: +63-2-395-2846 >http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia >-------------------------------------------------------- >IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > >Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss >to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The >yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post >to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it >seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > >================================================================ >SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >countries (the 'Global South'). Sincerely, Todd Alexander Litman Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) litman@vtpi.org Phone & Fax 250-360-1560 1250 Rudlin Street, Victoria, BC, V8V 3R7, CANADA "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" From ranjithsd at sltnet.lk Thu Jul 10 12:30:43 2008 From: ranjithsd at sltnet.lk (Ranjith de silva) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:00:43 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: Transportation Expenditure In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080709082838.07e0c188@mail.islandnet.com> Message-ID: <20080710025837.84385FC067@ovw1.sltnet.lk> Dear Todd, Thank you for sharing this useful document. Best regards. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) C/o. 310/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 11 2842972 / 5018180 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Todd Alexander Litman Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:19 PM To: sudhir gota; Carlosfelipe Pardo; sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Re: Transportation Expenditure We've done some research on these issues using North American data, published in our report "Transportation Affordability" (http://www.vtpi.org/affordability.pdf ). The results show that in the U.S. in 2005, overall about 18% of household budgets were devoted to transportation, making it second to housing and larger than food - in fact the actual number is probably about 20% if vehicle garages are categorized as a transportation cost rather than a housing cost - and the budget share devoted to transport has probably increased during the last three years due to rising fuel prices. Household transportation expenditures increase with rates of automobile ownership and use. The portion of household budgets devoted to transportation increases for households located in automobile-dependent locations. The lowest income quintile devotes a relatively small portion of budgets to transportation overall, because so many do not own an automobile, but low-income households that do own a vehicle spend a relatively large portion of expenditures to transportation. This indicates the value to low income households of having good travel options that reduce their need to own motor vehicles. This is increasingly important with rising fuel prices. My paper discusses a number of specific transportation and land use policies that can help reduce the financial burden of transportation to consumers, particularly those with lower incomes as automobile dependency increases. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about this analysis, or if you have any comparable data from other countries that we could incorporate into our study. Best wishes, -Todd Litman At 04:33 PM 7/8/2008, sudhir gota wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > >Taking the discussion little bit away into the "Transportation Expenditure" >and "fuel costs" - many would be surprised to know >that > > > 1. An Average American Consumer pays more for Transportation and less for > Food !! ( "means" more important than "ends" ??) > 2. Singapore is showing reduction in Family Transportation Expenditure ( > its 2003 values are less than 1993 values ??) > >we in CAI Asia are looking in detail in these aspects and hopefully 2008 >survey in Singapore would show more results. Insights and available research >and surveys would be helpful :-) > >Regards >Sudhir > > > > > >-- >Sudhir Gota >Transport Specialist >CAI-Asia Center >Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, >ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City >Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 >Tel: +63-2-395-2843 >Fax: +63-2-395-2846 >http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia >-------------------------------------------------------- >IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > >Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss >to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The >yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post >to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it >seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > >================================================================ >SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >countries (the 'Global South'). Sincerely, Todd Alexander Litman Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) litman@vtpi.org Phone & Fax 250-360-1560 1250 Rudlin Street, Victoria, BC, V8V 3R7, CANADA "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From sudhir at cai-asia.org Thu Jul 10 15:34:15 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:34:15 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: Transportation Expenditure In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080709082838.07e0c188@mail.islandnet.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20080709082838.07e0c188@mail.islandnet.com> Message-ID: Dear All, Thanks a lot. we hope to collect some Asian cities and put it in our website by this month end. Impact of Raising fuel prices makes this study important... We would also concentrate on lower middle class and poor section of society as they they feel the maximum pinch. Regards Sudhir On 09/07/2008, Todd Alexander Litman wrote: > > > We've done some research on these issues using North American data, > published in our report "Transportation > Affordability" (http://www.vtpi.org/affordability.pdf ). The > results show that in the U.S. in 2005, overall about 18% of household > budgets were devoted to transportation, making it second to housing > and larger than food - in fact the actual number is probably about > 20% if vehicle garages are categorized as a transportation cost > rather than a housing cost - and the budget share devoted to > transport has probably increased during the last three years due to > rising fuel prices. > > Household transportation expenditures increase with rates of > automobile ownership and use. The portion of household budgets > devoted to transportation increases for households located in > automobile-dependent locations. The lowest income quintile devotes a > relatively small portion of budgets to transportation overall, > because so many do not own an automobile, but low-income households > that do own a vehicle spend a relatively large portion of > expenditures to transportation. This indicates the value to low > income households of having good travel options that reduce their > need to own motor vehicles. This is increasingly important with > rising fuel prices. > > My paper discusses a number of specific transportation and land use > policies that can help reduce the financial burden of transportation > to consumers, particularly those with lower incomes as automobile > dependency increases. > > Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about this > analysis, or if you have any comparable data from other countries > that we could incorporate into our study. > > > Best wishes, > -Todd Litman > > > At 04:33 PM 7/8/2008, sudhir gota wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > >Taking the discussion little bit away into the "Transportation > Expenditure" > >and "fuel costs" - many would be surprised to know > >that > > > > > > 1. An Average American Consumer pays more for Transportation and less > for > > Food !! ( "means" more important than "ends" ??) > > 2. Singapore is showing reduction in Family Transportation Expenditure > ( > > its 2003 values are less than 1993 values ??) > > > >we in CAI Asia are looking in detail in these aspects and hopefully 2008 > >survey in Singapore would show more results. Insights and available > research > >and surveys would be helpful :-) > > > >Regards > >Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Sudhir Gota > >Transport Specialist > >CAI-Asia Center > >Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, > >ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City > >Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 > >Tel: +63-2-395-2843 > >Fax: +63-2-395-2846 > >http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > > >Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss > >to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > >yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post > >to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it > >seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > > >================================================================ > >SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > >equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > >countries (the 'Global South'). > > > Sincerely, > Todd Alexander Litman > Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) > litman@vtpi.org > Phone & Fax 250-360-1560 > 1250 Rudlin Street, Victoria, BC, V8V 3R7, CANADA > "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the > real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you > can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Sun Jul 13 22:46:15 2008 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:46:15 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Mayer Hillman website (Strongly recommended) Message-ID: <009b01c8e4ee$d4a6cdf0$7df469d0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Note: Mayer Hillman is a Senior Fellow Emeritus since 1992 at the Policy Studies Institute. A qualified architect and town planner, he completed a doctoral thesis on transport, planning and environmental issues in 1970 at the University of Edinburgh. He is a strong proponent of personal carbon trading (and specifically Personal Carbon Allowances, a concept he helped develop), and believes public policy should be more socially and environmentally conscious. I strongly recommend his work and am pleased that we now have this website as a convenient way to access his many important contributions. Eric Britton Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2008 13:56 You may be interested to know that my website has just been created and you may wish to view it on www.mayerhillman.com In addition to a Home page, there are five main sections - Climate Change, Transport, Walking & Cycling, Children, and Daylight Saving, representing the themes on which I have focused in my research over the last 40 years. Within each one of these sections, it is possible to access many of the publications that I have written or co-authored. I hope you find it informative. Kind regards, Mayer Dr. Mayer Hillman Senior Fellow Emeritus Policy Studies Institute c/o The Coach House 7a Netherhall Gardens London NW3 5RN Tel. 020 7794 9661 http://www.mayerhillman.com From msetty at publictransit.us Mon Jul 14 14:26:12 2008 From: msetty at publictransit.us (Michael D. Setty) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:26:12 -0700 Subject: [sustran] Re: Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 59, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20080714030121.A893D2D5D7@mx-list.jca.ne.jp> References: <20080714030121.A893D2D5D7@mx-list.jca.ne.jp> Message-ID: <373213DB-8261-42D2-967E-2A3C4B7840F5@publictransit.us> On Jul 13, 2008, at 8:01 PM, sustran-discuss-request@list.jca.apc.org wrote: Mr. Britton; I can't take Mayer very seriously given his bashing of British rail travel and the needed subsidies. His criticisms of rail subsidies there is bizarre, to say the least, when full electrification of rail would have the benefit of reducing and ultimately eliminating CO2 emissions from that source, since electricity can be generated from any source. Renewables and nuclear power--such as "across the Channel" in France--can eliminate all rail emissions. As for doing away with rail subsidies, not before the remaining subsidies to auto travel are eliminated, a priori. It is because of such short-sighted thinking, both intercity and urban transportation policy in Britain is all bolluxed up. His idea for "personal carbon allowances" is also an invitation to unwarranted government intrusion into people's lives to reduce carbon emissions, where indirect means such as rebated carbon taxes are much more efficient and far less intrusive. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mayer Hillman website (Strongly recommended) (Eric Britton) > > ***************************** Michael D. Setty Publictransit.us (formerly Carquinez Assoc.) P.O. Box 6076 Vallejo, CA. 94591-6076 (707) 258-1995 landline (707) 373-9397 cellphone msetty@publictransit.us www.publictransit.us -- Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Robert J. Hanlon From sudhir at cai-asia.org Tue Jul 15 16:50:10 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:50:10 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Pune Mobility Plan !!! Message-ID: Dear all, ** ** News from Pune ( India) *Rs 19,000 cr mobility plan could see public transport component losing steam: Experts* http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Rs-19-000-cr-mobility-plan-could-see-public-transport-component-losing-steam-Experts/335501/ and how much is the NMT investment plan ?? Regards Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From sudhir at cai-asia.org Thu Jul 17 07:41:03 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:41:03 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Roads on Roads concept - Bangalore builds its way out of Congestion???? Message-ID: Dear All, Please find the link for "Bangalore Roads over Roads concept". They think they can build their way out of congestion ... http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/69010/bangalore-builds-elevated-highways-to-end-jams.html Enjoy, this joke..... (28 % fall in problem ?????) Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Thu Jul 17 14:18:12 2008 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:18:12 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Legal redefinition of bicycles as public transport? Message-ID: <005c01c8e7cc$893f49b0$9bbddd10$@britton@ecoplan.org> Sorry to overload you here, but here?s a thought that came out of a video exchange that I had with Bina Balakrishnsan of the Mumbai Transformation Project this morning, which I would like to see if we might usefully discuss in the New Mobility Caf? (posting address: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com. The idea is to propose in some place a legal definition of non-motorized two/three wheelers as Public Transport. (This thought comes to mind in the context of our public bike work where they are increasingly being referred to as ?private/public transportation?. And in some places as public transportation without even that qualification. Can we move from words to action on this in some useful way? If we were to have this in hand, might it not start to make an enormous difference, opening up our mental spaces as well as legal room for action. That might be a first step to a real revolution ? High quality, zero-carbon, resource efficient, 21st century mobility for our cities and for our lives. It is so important to draw the right lines on the court before starting to hit the ball. ;-) How and where can we start to do this (if indeed it is a good idea in the first place)? What about batting this around a bit here? Eric Britton From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Thu Jul 17 16:31:15 2008 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:31:15 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Pascal van den Noort travels to Portland, Los Angeles, Seoul and Tokyo. Message-ID: <00a701c8e7df$1b44dc00$51ce9400$@britton@ecoplan.org> Our irrepressible Dutch cycling friend Pascal van den Noort of VeloMondial has just completed a one month eyes-open and camera-ready trip to Portland, Los Angeles, Seoul and Tokyo. To get a feel for what he saw and learned,, you might want to check out http://picasaweb.google.com/PascalvandenNoort/DaejonSpeechJuly2008/photo?aut hkey=Hr_KdCOKmXE#5223559091711015762 Enjoy the trip. Eric Britton PS. I like that I amsterdam logo so much that it makes me terribly jealous that I did not invent it. More to the point, this is the precisely the kind of thing we need to get our point across. Any ideas for new mobility? Or the New Mobility Agenda? From sujitjp at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 16:33:09 2008 From: sujitjp at gmail.com (Sujit Patwardhan) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:03:09 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: Roads on Roads concept - Bangalore builds its way out of Congestion???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4cfd20aa0807170033q288da87cm5082426163944317@mail.gmail.com> 17 July 2008 Real tragedy is the ignorance of the electronic and print media that merely repeats parrot-like any statement put out by the Govt. How many times do you see the media question proponents of such non-viable projects about facts, figures, cost and effectiveness of trying to build ones way out of congestion? With exploding number of personal auto vehicles in most urban areas, building roads/flyovers/elevated highways to reduce congestion will not only fail to solve the problem but make it worse as latent demand will encourage even more vehicles to come on the roads. This should be obvious to anyone who cares to read about the history of building more and more roads and flyovers but decision makers are immune to learning lessons from history and will continue to throw taxpayer's money down the drain as long as the common citizen remains apathetic. -- Sujit Patwardhan Parisar, Pune, India On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Sudhir wrote: > Dear All, > > Please find the link for "Bangalore Roads over Roads concept". > > They think they can build their way out of congestion ... > > > http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/69010/bangalore-builds-elevated-highways-to-end-jams.html > > Enjoy, this joke..... (28 % fall in problem ?????) > > Sudhir Gota > Transport Specialist > CAI-Asia Center > Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, > ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City > Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 > Tel: +63-2-395-2843 > Fax: +63-2-395-2846 > http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia > Skype : sudhirgota > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the > real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you > can). 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Secretary: Parisar www.parisar.org ------------------------------------------------------ Founder Member: PTTF (Pune Traffic & Transportation Forum) www.pttf.net ------------------------------------------------------ From edelman at greenidea.eu Thu Jul 17 19:46:09 2008 From: edelman at greenidea.eu (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:46:09 +0200 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?UITP=92S_YOUTH_Project_Awards?= Message-ID: <487F22F1.40907@greenidea.eu> **UITP?S YOUTH Project Awards aim to reward originality and creativity among the young managers of our sector as well as improve the image of public transport towards young people. For its second edition, focused on the promotion of best practices in favour of young people as customers and projects devised or led by young managers, we are expecting groundbreaking projects from all over the world. If you want to showcase your ideas on how to improve young people?s mobility and engage them in using public transport, submit your project on our website at www.uitp.org/youthproject before *31 August*. Winning projects will be awarded at the 58th UITP World Congress in Vienna in front of an audience of worldwide policymakers and with the participation of UNESCO. CONTACT: Alessandra Gorini, alessandra.gorini@uitp.org -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunni 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net CAR is over. If you WANT it. From edelman at greenidea.eu Thu Jul 17 19:46:09 2008 From: edelman at greenidea.eu (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:46:09 +0200 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?=5BNewMobilityCafe=5D_UITP=92S_YOUTH_P?= =?windows-1252?Q?roject_Awards?= Message-ID: <487F22F1.40907@greenidea.eu> **UITP?S YOUTH Project Awards aim to reward originality and creativity among the young managers of our sector as well as improve the image of public transport towards young people. For its second edition, focused on the promotion of best practices in favour of young people as customers and projects devised or led by young managers, we are expecting groundbreaking projects from all over the world. If you want to showcase your ideas on how to improve young people?s mobility and engage them in using public transport, submit your project on our website at www.uitp.org/youthproject before *31 August*. Winning projects will be awarded at the 58th UITP World Congress in Vienna in front of an audience of worldwide policymakers and with the participation of UNESCO. CONTACT: Alessandra Gorini, alessandra.gorini@uitp.org -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunni 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net CAR is over. If you WANT it. ------------------------------------ Check in here via the homepage at http://www.newmobility.org To post message to group: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Please think twice before posting to the group as a whole (It might be that your note is best sent to one person?) Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Wed Jul 23 17:45:18 2008 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:45:18 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Message-ID: <002601c8eca0$730f3c80$592db580$@britton@ecoplan.org> Dear friends, Here is an idea I would like to see if we can perhaps develop together, and suggest that we do this in the new mobility caf? ? i.e., you post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com. Okay, We have pretty well established over the last several years of real world hands-on experience that public bikes can do some pretty interesting things . . . in certain kinds of cities. The basic conditions of success include the usual: topography, climate, land use, quality of supporting infrastructure, street safety, etc., etc. All of that we have gone into amply here. But one thorn in the side of this great new mobility idea is: how if at all do you make it work in communities that suffer from certain kinds of social and economic dysfunctionality? For example areas with very high youth unemployment and the social behavior that does along with it. The trick with the public bike is that they are out on the street and we can be sure that if there is any residual anger within the community, they are going to suffer. Even in calmer cities, vandalism and theft are always very much there are requiring the fullest attention of the city and their public bike partner. Until now the pattern response that I keep running into when we speak with people from the Global South mega-cites for example (but not only them) the public bike idea does not get too far before it gets tossed out the window for a lot of ?practical reasons?. Hmm. Your thoughts on this? Eric Britton From eric.britton at free.fr Wed Jul 23 19:10:44 2008 From: eric.britton at free.fr (Eric Britton (free.fr)) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:10:44 +0200 Subject: [sustran] '40 years of networking the academic transport community' Message-ID: <006f01c8ecac$5f4d4a50$1de7def0$@britton@free.fr> On Behalf Of Glenn Lyons Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:31 To: UTSG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [UTSG] 40 Years of UTSG Dear colleagues, Those of you who are readers of Local Transport Today will perhaps have already taken the opportunity to look at a feature article in the latest issue which examined '40 years of networking the academic transport community'. If you missed it or would like to draw it to the attention of other colleagues, I'm pleased to say that LTT have kindly made the article freely available to view online: http://www.lttonline.co.uk/lttxtraverify.php?email=utsguser@landor.co.uk&pas sword=utsg I think the article rather nicely provides both an insight into the nature, purpose, value and history of the Universities Transport Study Group. With the transport challenges we face I hope you'll agree that the academic network UTSG provides is as valuable as ever. Best wishes, Glenn Chairman, Universities Transport Study Group ___________________________________________________ Professor Glenn Lyons Centre for Transport & Society Faculty of Environment and Technology University of the West of England Frenchay Campus BRISTOL BS16 1QY Tel 0117 32 83219 Mobile 07748 768404 Fax 0117 32 83899 Email Glenn.Lyons@uwe.ac.uk Web www.transport.uwe.ac.uk Office location - 4Q61 International Network http://www.geo.uu.nl/mobilizingICT ___________________________________________________ From sulin at vectordesigns.org Thu Jul 24 21:40:58 2008 From: sulin at vectordesigns.org (sulin chee) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:40:58 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Vector Designs (KL public transport info) no longer operational in Kuala Lumpur Message-ID: <20080724124205.64BFC2DCE7@mx-list.jca.ne.jp> To all those working in the sustainable transport and urban planning fields listed above, On behalf of Vector Designs which works with public transport information in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, I as its owner would like to inform you that this enterprise is unfortunately currently not operational as I have moved to London due to family reasons. Please feel free to contact me should you need any information on public transport in Kuala Lumpur. I am still contactible on sulin@vectordesigns.org or +447535703232. Otherwise, for official enquiries on public transport in KL, you could most likely get information from www.rapidkl.com.my . There's also a blog on KL public transport at http://moionlybetter.blogspot.com/2008/06/moaz-yusuf-on-public-transportatio n-in.html. If you would like any help with KL mapping, perhaps you could contact MalaysiaGIS at admin@malaysiagis.com. Best regards, Su-Lin Chee Vector Designs mobile +44 7535703232 Flat 5, 123-125 Charlmont Road, London SW17 9AB. sulin@vectordesigns.org, sulinchee@gmail.com www.vectordesigns.org http://transit.vectordesigns.org From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Fri Jul 25 18:06:11 2008 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:06:11 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Public bicycle planning, priorities, strategies Message-ID: <002501c8ee35$b2f18830$18d49890$@britton@ecoplan.org> This is an important point Stephen, and let me see if I can reassure a bit. With a couple of dozen public bike projects already rolling on the street in quite a range of different cities, configurations and cycling environments, and with literally hundreds of cities and consultants raking through all this with a view to developing sound plans for their own projects, one point concerning policy and practice is soaring above all the rest. And that is that if any city or group tries to put on the street a public bike project with broad public access without first ensuring at least minimum conditions for safe cycling, this is not only a gross error but also in fact a criminal act. Why? Well, because cyclists who are all of a sudden launched into a ?car-war? environment are going to be injured and killed in numbers way above the historic statistical mean. 1. The supporting infrastructure must be there ? and it must match with the travel patterns of city cyclists 2. This infrastructure must be carefully maintained to a high standard 3. It must be properly signed and marked (street paint, etc.) 4. The streets on which the cyclists transit must be adequately protected by the police 5. Effective educational campaigns must be launched, both for cyclists and for motorists 6. (And I believe personally that those people who make these decisions should use the system only a daily basis themselves ? thus ensuring the tightest possible feedback loops if and when any troubles or anomalies surface) That I can safely offer is the state of the art as of 25 July 2008, and anyone who launches a project without ensuring these preparations is not only behind the curve, but dangerously behind the curve. The second part of this informal answer to your concern, is that a very significant impact of public bike projects got right, is that they bring more cyclists out on the street, which gives you both (a) strength in numbers and (b) a proportionately higher profile for cycling which in turn gets both media and policy attention. This is a very positive synergy and if you look at the leading city bike projects you can see it at work. You last point: about how to make this work in ?poor countries? is something on which we a number of others are currently working. Stay tuned. Eric Britton From: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Plowden Sent: Friday, 25 July 2008 07:09 To: No Reply; NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Much as I admire the Velib and other similar initiatives, I am concerned that the emphasis on public bikes may distract attention from the more important issue of how to ensure safe and agreeable conditions for people to use their own bikes, wich most people even in poor countries can afford. ----- Original Message ----- From: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com To: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] Digest Number 1155 The New Mobility Idea Factory Messages In This Digest (1 Message) 1a. Public bicycle <> strategies for troubled communities From: Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca] View All Topics | Create New Topic Message 1a. Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Posted by: "Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca]" Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca] fekbritton Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:52 pm (PDT) Curran, Andrew [mailto:Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca ] Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 19:04 In speaking with some colleagues from Mexico City who are considering a Public Bicycle System, one of the main challenges is that credit card use is not widespread and the majority of the population does not have any readily available collateral to offer up as a guarantee that they will return the bicycle. This challenge is the same for many cities in the Global South and for poorer parts of wealthy cities. If a PBS is implemented in cities where only a wealthy minority has access to the bicycles they will be the target of serious resentment, vandalism and theft. Perhaps some kind of Grameen Bank-style model might work? The Grameen Bank provides micro-loans to poor women with no conventional collateral. The women organize into homogeneous 5-person "self-help" groups (to facilitate group solidarity). These primary groups of 5 are then federated into local centres which are affiliated with the central Grameen Bank. One woman in the group at a time is granted a small loan to undertake a quick income generating activity of her choosing. The next woman in the group is only eligible for a subsequent loan once the first woman repays her loan. The Bank achieves close to a 99% repayment rate (far better than conventional banks). The entire system works based on credit discipline through collective borrower responsibility and peer pressure. More info: http://www.grameen-info.org/ http://www.grameen-info.org/grameen/gtrust/replication.html In a Grameen-style Public Bicycle System, users could organize into groups of 5-10 and if one user fails to return a bicycle - their entire group is responsible? Either the entire group would need to chip in and pay the lost bike charge or the entire group would lose their bicycle privileges? It's not as clean or as obviously work-able as the Bank model but perhaps there is a seed of something here? Is there some way to set up a sustainable PBS where bicycles are returned based on collective borrower responsibility and peer pressure (as opposed to un-collectable fines or the heavy hand of the law)? Any other ideas to address this challenge? Cheers, Andrew _____ From: WorldCityBike@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WorldCityBike@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Britton Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 AM To: worldcitybike@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WorldCityBike] Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Dear friends, Here is an idea I would like to see if we can perhaps develop together, and suggest that we do this in the new mobility caf? ? i.e., you post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com . Okay, We have pretty well established over the last several years of real world hands-on experience that public bikes can do some pretty interesting things . . . in certain kinds of cities. The basic conditions of success include the usual: topography, climate, land use, quality of supporting infrastructure, street safety, etc., etc. All of that we have gone into amply here. But one thorn in the side of this great new mobility idea is: how if at all do you make it work in communities that suffer from certain kinds of social and economic dysfunctionality? For example areas with very high youth unemployment and the social behavior that does along with it. The trick with the public bike is that they are out on the street and we can be sure that if there is any residual anger within the community, they are going to suffer. Even in calmer cities, vandalism and theft are always very much there are requiring the fullest attention of the city and their public bike partner. Until now the pattern response that I keep running into when we speak with people from the Global South mega-cites for example (but not only them) the public bike idea does not get too far before it gets tossed out the window for a lot of ?practical reasons?. Hmm. Your thoughts on this? Eric Britton From shovan1209 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 23:41:23 2008 From: shovan1209 at yahoo.com (Saiful Alam) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sustran] Re: Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 59, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <20080726030109.715F82C5C3@mx-list.jca.ne.jp> Message-ID: <464517.80502.qm@web57110.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Syed Siful Alam?Shovan shovan1209@yahoo.com --- On Sat, 7/26/08, sustran-discuss-request@list.jca.apc.org wrote: From: sustran-discuss-request@list.jca.apc.org Subject: Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 59, Issue 15 To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 9:01 AM Send Sustran-discuss mailing list submissions to sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sustran-discuss-request@list.jca.apc.org You can reach the person managing the list at sustran-discuss-owner@list.jca.apc.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sustran-discuss digest..." ######################################################################## Sustran-discuss Mailing List Digest IMPORTANT NOTE: When replying please do not include the whole digest in your reply - just include the relevant part of the specific message that you are responding to. Many thanks. About this mailing list see: http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss ######################################################################## Today's Topics: 1. Public bicycle planning, priorities, strategies (Eric Britton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:06:11 +0200 From: "Eric Britton" Subject: [sustran] Public bicycle planning, priorities, strategies To: , Cc: LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com, sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Message-ID: <002501c8ee35$b2f18830$18d49890$@britton@ecoplan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is an important point Stephen, and let me see if I can reassure a bit. With a couple of dozen public bike projects already rolling on the street in quite a range of different cities, configurations and cycling environments, and with literally hundreds of cities and consultants raking through all this with a view to developing sound plans for their own projects, one point concerning policy and practice is soaring above all the rest. And that is that if any city or group tries to put on the street a public bike project with broad public access without first ensuring at least minimum conditions for safe cycling, this is not only a gross error but also in fact a criminal act. Why? Well, because cyclists who are all of a sudden launched into a ?car-war? environment are going to be injured and killed in numbers way above the historic statistical mean. 1. The supporting infrastructure must be there ? and it must match with the travel patterns of city cyclists 2. This infrastructure must be carefully maintained to a high standard 3. It must be properly signed and marked (street paint, etc.) 4. The streets on which the cyclists transit must be adequately protected by the police 5. Effective educational campaigns must be launched, both for cyclists and for motorists 6. (And I believe personally that those people who make these decisions should use the system only a daily basis themselves ? thus ensuring the tightest possible feedback loops if and when any troubles or anomalies surface) That I can safely offer is the state of the art as of 25 July 2008, and anyone who launches a project without ensuring these preparations is not only behind the curve, but dangerously behind the curve. The second part of this informal answer to your concern, is that a very significant impact of public bike projects got right, is that they bring more cyclists out on the street, which gives you both (a) strength in numbers and (b) a proportionately higher profile for cycling which in turn gets both media and policy attention. This is a very positive synergy and if you look at the leading city bike projects you can see it at work. You last point: about how to make this work in ?poor countries? is something on which we a number of others are currently working. Stay tuned. Eric Britton From: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Plowden Sent: Friday, 25 July 2008 07:09 To: No Reply; NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Much as I admire the Velib and other similar initiatives, I am concerned that the emphasis on public bikes may distract attention from the more important issue of how to ensure safe and agreeable conditions for people to use their own bikes, wich most people even in poor countries can afford. ----- Original Message ----- From: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com To: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] Digest Number 1155 The New Mobility Idea Factory Messages In This Digest (1 Message) 1a. Public bicycle <> strategies for troubled communities From: Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca] View All Topics | Create New Topic Message 1a. Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Posted by: "Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca]" Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca] fekbritton Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:52 pm (PDT) Curran, Andrew [mailto:Andrew_Curran@translink.bc.ca ] Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 19:04 In speaking with some colleagues from Mexico City who are considering a Public Bicycle System, one of the main challenges is that credit card use is not widespread and the majority of the population does not have any readily available collateral to offer up as a guarantee that they will return the bicycle. This challenge is the same for many cities in the Global South and for poorer parts of wealthy cities. If a PBS is implemented in cities where only a wealthy minority has access to the bicycles they will be the target of serious resentment, vandalism and theft. Perhaps some kind of Grameen Bank-style model might work? The Grameen Bank provides micro-loans to poor women with no conventional collateral. The women organize into homogeneous 5-person "self-help" groups (to facilitate group solidarity). These primary groups of 5 are then federated into local centres which are affiliated with the central Grameen Bank. One woman in the group at a time is granted a small loan to undertake a quick income generating activity of her choosing. The next woman in the group is only eligible for a subsequent loan once the first woman repays her loan. The Bank achieves close to a 99% repayment rate (far better than conventional banks). The entire system works based on credit discipline through collective borrower responsibility and peer pressure. More info: http://www.grameen-info.org/ http://www.grameen-info.org/grameen/gtrust/replication.html In a Grameen-style Public Bicycle System, users could organize into groups of 5-10 and if one user fails to return a bicycle - their entire group is responsible? Either the entire group would need to chip in and pay the lost bike charge or the entire group would lose their bicycle privileges? It's not as clean or as obviously work-able as the Bank model but perhaps there is a seed of something here? Is there some way to set up a sustainable PBS where bicycles are returned based on collective borrower responsibility and peer pressure (as opposed to un-collectable fines or the heavy hand of the law)? Any other ideas to address this challenge? Cheers, Andrew _____ From: WorldCityBike@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WorldCityBike@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Britton Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 AM To: worldcitybike@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WorldCityBike] Public bicycle strategies for troubled communities Dear friends, Here is an idea I would like to see if we can perhaps develop together, and suggest that we do this in the new mobility caf? ? i.e., you post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com . Okay, We have pretty well established over the last several years of real world hands-on experience that public bikes can do some pretty interesting things . . . in certain kinds of cities. The basic conditions of success include the usual: topography, climate, land use, quality of supporting infrastructure, street safety, etc., etc. All of that we have gone into amply here. But one thorn in the side of this great new mobility idea is: how if at all do you make it work in communities that suffer from certain kinds of social and economic dysfunctionality? For example areas with very high youth unemployment and the social behavior that does along with it. The trick with the public bike is that they are out on the street and we can be sure that if there is any residual anger within the community, they are going to suffer. Even in calmer cities, vandalism and theft are always very much there are requiring the fullest attention of the city and their public bike partner. Until now the pattern response that I keep running into when we speak with people from the Global South mega-cites for example (but not only them) the public bike idea does not get too far before it gets tossed out the window for a lot of ?practical reasons?. Hmm. Your thoughts on this? Eric Britton ------------------------------ ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). End of Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 59, Issue 15 *********************************************** From sudhir at cai-asia.org Sun Jul 27 11:21:59 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:21:59 +0800 Subject: [sustran] City rickshaws fight ban in India Message-ID: Dear All, Well over the past week we have seen some interesting mails about cycling in sustran-new mobility ... this news may affect sustran members http://in.news.yahoo.com/32/20080727/1053/tnl-city-rickshaws-fight-ban.html Push Cycle Rickshaws out of streets and then cycles and then pedestrians just because they cause congestion.. ..? its true "Common sense ain't common" regards Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From sudhir at cai-asia.org Sun Jul 27 18:36:23 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:36:23 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Final report on Traffic and Transportation ( India) Message-ID: Dear All, Final report on "Traffic and Transportation Policies and Strategies in Urban Areas in India" 2008 " has been recently uploaded in Internet . http://urbanindia.nic.in/moud/programme/ut/main.htm Researchers may find this resource very useful (to know more about India- Urban Transportation Scenario - it has comprehensive database..) we in CAI Asia are actively looking at the report and probably we can discuss this during the course of next week... Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From sudhir at cai-asia.org Sun Jul 27 11:21:59 2008 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:21:59 +0800 Subject: [sustran] [NewMobilityCafe] City rickshaws fight ban in India Message-ID: Dear All, Well over the past week we have seen some interesting mails about cycling in sustran-new mobility ... this news may affect sustran members http://in.news.yahoo.com/32/20080727/1053/tnl-city-rickshaws-fight-ban.html Push Cycle Rickshaws out of streets and then cycles and then pedestrians just because they cause congestion.. ..? its true "Common sense ain't common" regards Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From hghazali at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:05:19 2008 From: hghazali at gmail.com (Hassaan Ghazali) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:05:19 +0500 Subject: [sustran] School bus service in large cities Message-ID: Friends, I seek your assistance in identifying international models for a school bus service that is being run on a public-private patnership. The Government of the Punjab has decided to introduce such a system which is transparent and sustainable and I seek your guidance on how other cities have gone about it so that informed policy options may be provided. Thanks in advance, Hassaan -- Institutional Development Specialist Urban Sector Policy and Management Unit (The Urban Unit) Planning & Development Department, Government of the Punjab A: 4-B Lytton Road, Lahore, Pakistan T: 9213579-84 (Ext.116) F: 9213585 M: 0345 455 6016 Skype: halgazel http://hghazali.googlepages.com *When conditions are right, everything will go wrong*