[sustran] Re: Indian roads - planes, cows, elephants, mosques

Madhav Badami, Prof. madhav.g.badami at mcgill.ca
Fri May 4 23:00:29 JST 2007


Dear Carlos,
 
Once the craziness of the academic term comes to an end, I promise a
detailed response to Jonathan Richmond's (and others') postings on the
situation in India (and what we can and ought to do about it). I will
try and work elephants, cows and yoga  -- but not planes -- into my
response as well :-). Meanwhile, I will leave you with this personal
viewpoint ... India is like life itself -- joyous, sometimes sublime,
and at the very same time, very messy, even obscene, but never ever dull
and boring. 
 
Madhav
 
************************************************************************
 
"As for the future, your task is not to foresee, but to enable it."
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
 
Madhav G. Badami, PhD
School of Urban Planning and McGill School of Environment McGill
University Macdonald-Harrington Building
815 Sherbrooke Street West
Montreal, QC, H3A 2K6, Canada
 
Phone: 514-398-3183 (Work); 514-486-2370 (Home)
Fax: 514-398-8376; 514-398-1643
URLs: www.mcgill.ca/urbanplanning
www.mcgill.ca/mse
e-mail: madhav.badami at mcgill.ca
 

________________________________

From: sustran-discuss-bounces+madhav.g.badami=mcgill.ca at list.jca.apc.org
[mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+madhav.g.badami=mcgill.ca at list.jca.apc.o
rg] On Behalf Of Carlos F. Pardo
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:42 AM
To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
Subject: [sustran] Indian roads - planes, cows, elephants, mosques


We had the chance to be in India (Delhi, Chandigarh, Pune) last week,
working in a BRT training course with the SUTP project, ITDP and World
Bank (which was very useful). Parallel to the workshop I would go
walking around to see these cities. This news from a plane in the middle
of a road reminded me of some other issues I saw:

- A mosque as wide as the sidewalk (Delhi), "blocking" the way for
pedestrians,
- An elephant walking on a major arterial,
- The typical cows in roundabouts or roads,
- The classic situation of the "chaotic" Indian intersection.

This has all made me think deeper about the recent discussion started by
J. Richmond. Is it institutions? Is it a deeply culturally rooted
characteristic of Indians? Is it religion, yoga or whatever? I bought a
book on Indian culture which I've started reading to see if I find any
answers. I would really like to hear from people in India their point of
view on why they think this happens. Being from Colombia, I'm completely
lost trying to understand this.

Best regards,

Carlos 


Roselle Rivera wrote: 

	
	
	something (amusing/very bothering?) on transport.
	 Bad and irresponsible planning? or planned tourist attraction?
	
	
	
	** The Boeing 737 stuck in city road **
	Residents of the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay) are wondering
how long it will take to remove a disused Boeing 737 that has been
abandoned in a busy road.
	< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/6620461.stm >
	
	
	** BBC Daily E-mail **
	Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want
them, all
	in one daily e-mail
	< http://www.bbc.co.uk/email >
	
	
	** Disclaimer **
	The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and
anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's
views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name
of the sender have been verified.
	
	If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want
to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our
frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm
	
	Please refer to: http://www.iss.nl/content/view/full/2873 for
ISS' email disclaimer.
	
	
	
	ROSELLE LEAH K RIVERA
	PhD Fellow
	Human Resource and Local Development Staff Group
	
	Institute of Social Studies
	Kortenaerkade 12
	2518 AX
	The Hague, Netherlands
	Office Tel: +31 70 4260428
	Fax: +31 70 4260507
	Mobile: +31 627315444 
	
	__________ NOD32 2238 (20070503) Information __________
	
	This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
	http://www.eset.com
	
	
________________________________


	-------------------------------------------------------- 
	IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via
YAHOOGROUPS. 
	
	Please go to
http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real
sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version
is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real
sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you
can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement.
	
	================================================================
	SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of
people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on
developing countries (the 'Global South'). 
	
	
	__________ NOD32 2238 (20070503) Information __________
	
	This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
	http://www.eset.com
	  

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070504/bf8a3c04/attachment.html


More information about the Sustran-discuss mailing list