From sunny.enie at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 20:01:45 2007 From: sunny.enie at gmail.com (Sunny) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:01:45 +0700 Subject: [sustran] It is not just the exhaust from cars that pollute our air! Message-ID: <46B06819.60507@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070801/eaede961/attachment.html From ranjithsd at sltnet.lk Wed Aug 8 17:26:09 2007 From: ranjithsd at sltnet.lk (Ranjith de Silva) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:56:09 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Opportunities in Libya Message-ID: <20070808152402.2907E2CC4BC@ovw2.sltnet.lk> Dear SUSTRAN Network members, This message is from WSP Sweden: WSP International Sweden has a long-term contract with the National Consulting Bureau of Libya for regional and detailed planning in the North-West region of the country. The contract was recently extended for a fifth year, currently ending in end 2009. See further at www.wspgroup.se/libya. We have now finished the stage of regional planning, mapping etc, and have started work with detailed planning which will require a large number of staff. We therefore look for additional staff - for Transport Planner, Urban Planners, Landscape Architect and Construction Managers. Do you know of any Transport Planners that could be interested (or anyone for the other positions)? See the link above or, for the transport planner: http://www.wspgroup.se/sv/Karriar/Karriar/Lediga-jobb/Vacancy/?vacancyid=222 0 Looking forward to hearing from you! Please copy your response to Mona.Olander@wpsgroup.se and c hristofer.hok@wpsgroup.se - they are the persons directly involved in the Libya projects. Thanks. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Asia 310/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 11 2842972 / 5518180 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070808/4c268161/attachment.html From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:29:13 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:29:13 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:30:21 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:30:21 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:30:46 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:30:46 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:31:19 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:31:19 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:31:38 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:31:38 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:03 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:03 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:29 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:29 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:52 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:52 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:33:14 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:33:14 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:33:50 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:33:50 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:04 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:04 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:25 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:25 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:48 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:48 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 00:35:54 2007 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlos F. Pardo) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:35:54 -0500 Subject: [sustran] HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com> Who can fix this? Anybody who can access the administrative interface of sustran, can you block this user?? Carlos valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar wrote: > Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, > > Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, > > Valeria Serrano > Director > > Serrano Pecorari & Asociados > De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n > El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina > Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 > e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar > website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:36:17 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:36:17 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:36:41 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:36:41 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:37:05 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:37:05 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:37:27 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:37:27 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:37:53 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:37:53 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:38:26 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:38:26 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:39:15 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:39:15 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:39:26 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:39:26 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:40:10 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:40:10 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:40:35 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:40:35 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:41:14 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:41:14 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:41:41 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:41:41 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:42:27 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:42:27 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:43:06 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:43:06 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:43:39 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:43:39 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:44:05 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:44:05 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:44:40 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:44:40 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:45:16 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:45:16 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:45:44 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:45:44 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:46:30 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:46:30 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:47:06 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:47:06 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:47:45 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:47:45 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:48:14 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:48:14 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:48:53 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:48:53 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:49:26 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:49:26 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:49:55 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:49:55 -0300 Subject: [sustran] Out of Office AutoReply Message-ID: Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, Valeria Serrano Director Serrano Pecorari & Asociados De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar From SCHIPPER at wri.org Thu Aug 9 00:53:46 2007 From: SCHIPPER at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:53:46 -0400 Subject: [sustran] HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply In-Reply-To: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com> References: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> I blocked this user in MY spam filter and got rid of the 39 entries, but it is still loading up servers all over the world. Lee >>> "Carlos F. Pardo" 8/8/2007 11:35:54 am >>> Who can fix this? Anybody who can access the administrative interface of sustran, can you block this user?? Carlos valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar wrote: > Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best Regards, > > Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, > > Valeria Serrano > Director > > Serrano Pecorari & Asociados > De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n > El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina > Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 > e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar > website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 01:00:57 2007 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlos F. Pardo) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:00:57 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Fixed and next step Re: HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply In-Reply-To: <46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> References: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com> <46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> Message-ID: <46B9E8B9.9010900@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070808/1391c095/attachment.html From hertel at zedat.fu-berlin.de Thu Aug 9 01:05:27 2007 From: hertel at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christof Hertel) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:05:27 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fixed and next step Re: HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply In-Reply-To: <46B9E8B9.9010900@gmail.com> References: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com> <46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> <46B9E8B9.9010900@gmail.com> Message-ID: Maybe it is possible to install a "out of office" filter on the list... On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Carlos F. Pardo wrote: > Todd Edelman was kind enough to call their offices and ask them to solve > the problem. I sent them an email as well (to their info account). It > seems to have worked!! > > Our next step is to establish two (or three) America (or Europe)-based > moderators on the list, so we can have 24-hour "surveillance" to stop > these things. I think the only ones are in Asia. > > Best regards, > > Carlos F. Pardo > > > Lee Schipper wrote: > > I blocked this user in MY spam filter and got rid of the 39 entries, but > it is still loading up servers all over the world. > Lee > > > > "Carlos F. Pardo" 8/8/2007 11:35:54 am > > > > Who can fix this? Anybody who can access the administrative interface > of > sustran, can you block this user?? > > Carlos > > > > valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar wrote: > > > Thank you for your communication. I will be out of the office until > > > August 13th. I will respond to your e-mail upon my return. Best > Regards, > > > Gracias por su comunicaci?n. Estar? fuera de la oficina hasta el 13 > > > de Agosto. Responder? a su mensaje a mi retorno. Atentamente, > > > Valeria Serrano > Director > > Serrano Pecorari & Asociados > De Los Robles 3071 Ciudad Jard?n > El Palomar B1684CBC Buenos Aires Argentina > Tel: +54(11)4751-7541 > e-mail: valeria.serrano@serrano-pecorari.com.ar > website: www.serrano-pecorari.com.ar | www.satproject.com.ar > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > > > YAHOOGROUPS. > > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss > > > to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to > the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem > like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > > > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The > yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to > the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem > like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > > > > Christof _________________________________________________________________ From paulbarter at nus.edu.sg Thu Aug 9 11:24:29 2007 From: paulbarter at nus.edu.sg (Paul Barter) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:24:29 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fixed and next step Re: HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply References: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com><46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> <46B9E8B9.9010900@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear sustran-discussers As one of the two list managers it was very disappointing to see this morning that the list went into a feedback loop late last night east Asian time. I always fear a flood of people leaving the list when these things happen. Many apologies for the irritation this must have caused many of you. Thanks to those of you who tried to find ways to stop it. Luckily Karl, my co-manager, was up late and was able to take action to stop the flood. Thanks Karl! I am suprised this happened. The various safeguards usually seem to work. Every few days the system does catch an 'out of office reply'. If any slip through, it is usually just one, because of the way auto replies are usually set up. TEMPORARY (possibly permanent) SOLUTION As a trial, I have just changed a key setting for the list. FROM NOW ON, IF YOU JUST HIT "REPLY" YOUR MESSAGE WILL NOT GO TO SUSTRAN-DISCUSS. IT WILL GO ONLY TO THE POSTER OF THE MESSAGE. This should prevent feedback loops like last night's. SO IF YOU DO WANT TO REPLY TO THE WHOLE LIST, THEN YOU WILL NEED TO COPY-AND-PASTE THE LIST ADDRESS (sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org) BEFORE SENDING. For many email programmes 'reply to all' should also work Note that this change should apply to replies to this message and new ones from now on. It will not apply to old messages already sent to the list. By the way, Carlos' suggestion to have one or two more list managers is a good one and we may take this up for various other reasons. However, this kind of feedback loop can generate a lot of messages very quickly as we saw. So even multiple managers might not be enough. All the best, Paul From paulbarter at nus.edu.sg Thu Aug 9 11:37:13 2007 From: paulbarter at nus.edu.sg (Paul Barter) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:37:13 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fixed and next step Re: HELP Re: Out of Office AutoReply References: <46B9E2DA.20502@gmail.com><46B9AECA.D997.0038.0@wri.org> <46B9E8B9.9010900@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear sustran-discussers As one of the two list managers it was disappointing to see that sustran-discuss had a nasty feedback loop last night east Asian time. Many apologies for the distress and annoyance caused. Thanks to those who tried to do something about it. Fortunately, my co-manager, Karl, was up late and was able to take action. I hate to think how many more messages might have clogged the system otherwise. The safeguards are pretty good on sustran-discuss and they usually seem to catch these things. But not this time. So we need to improve the prevention. TEMPORARY (possibly permanent) SOLUTION I have just changed a key setting on the list. Starting with replies to this message, REPLIES TO SUSTRAN-DISCUSS MESSAGES WILL BY DEFAULT GO TO THE SENDER OF THE MESSAGE, NOT THE WHOLE LIST. IF YOU WANT TO REPLY TO THE WHOLE LIST THEN PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE LIST ADDRESS (sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org). "REPLY TO ALL" SHOULD ALSO WORK I THINK. I hope this solution is not too inconvenient. I think it is probably worth it, in order to prevent such nasty loops like last night's. All the best and apologies again. Paul From edelman at greenidea.info Fri Aug 10 00:41:49 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:41:49 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Africa starts to gear up for biofuels Message-ID: <46BB35BD.5070306@greenidea.info> *Africa starts to gear up for biofuels * (Make sure you read the BUT section -- the last four paragraphs) AFP, 29 July 2007 - Faced with mounting energy crises, many African nations in recent years have zealously launched projects to produce cheaper biofuels, but few have gained steam. One fervent advocate of biofuels, Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade, said during a trip to Brazil, a leading ethanol supplier, that biofuels would set in motion "a new revolution in Africa." Wade boasted that the African continent was set "to be a giant producer of biofuels." Struggling under the ever-rising cost of fossil fuels while also fighting crippling levels of poverty and disease, Africa hopes biofuels will boost its economic fortunes -- as well as help cut greenhouse gas emissions, which scientists say contribute to global warming. Biofuel production experiments are taking place in many African countries, with a few already investing in facilities. President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa, the continent's most developed nation, has called for the fast-tracking of biofuel research and production. South Africa began last July to construct Africa's first production plant for ethanol, which is made from the sugars found in grains. The first barrels of the biofuel should start flowing by the end of this year, and seven similar factories are expected to be up and running by 2010. Nigeria, Africa's oil producing giant, cannot afford to be left behind. It hopes to rake in 150 million dollars annually from biofuels once it reaches full production. Nigeria plans to build 15 ethanol plants with technical assistance from Brazil. It envisions ethanol powered cars in Africa's most populous country by 2010. Senegal has launched an experiment on colza plantations to produce bio-diesel, and distillation is under way by a Senegalese sugar firm to produce bio-ethanol. To show how serious Senegal is, Wade has created a new ministry entirely devoted to biofuels and renewable energies. The west African country also wants biofuels to take off because it does not produce crude oil and relies heavily on diesel for generating electricity. The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has set up a special commission to study the possibility of producing biofuels in the vast central African nation which cultivates less than five percent of its arable land. "It is a project which will re-kindle and revolutionise agriculture," said Jean Muding, adviser to the DRC agriculture ministry. Several other southern African countries, including Swaziland, Zambia and Zimbabwe, are conducting trials for bio-diesel by pressing oil from non-edible jatropha nuts, which grow on a shrub that survives even in arid conditions. In the face of such interest, the eight-nation West African Economic and Monetary Union (UEMOA) warned in a recent report that biofuel production was "not a solution" to Africa's energy problems. It said biofuels would remain marginal and could not replace traditional crude oil, but simply complement petroleum. "It could not reach the output levels needed for mass production of biofuels," said UEMOA. The UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) has also warned that widespread production of biofuel plants could threaten food production on a continent already facing food shortages. /This article is reproduced with kind permission of Agence France-Presse (AFP) For more news and articles visit the AFP website . / -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From edelman at greenidea.info Fri Aug 10 00:50:03 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:50:03 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Biofuels shift seen to put major squeeze on food prices Message-ID: <46BB37AB.3060605@greenidea.info> *Biofuels shift seen to put major squeeze on food prices * (Some things new to me in this one... but I think it is safe to simplify this all as "as few cars as possible, don't eat beef, drink less cow's milk" - T) AFP, 9 August 2007 - A global shift toward renewable energy could jack up food prices by up to 80 percent as crops and farmland are diverted to producing biofuels, an international agricultural think-tank warned Thursday. Joachim von Braun, director-general of the International Food Policy Research Institute, said further crop yield improvements and increased efficiency of these alternative fuels were required if a global price shock were to be avoided. Unless governments invest to improve farm productivity "so that we can cope with the increased demand for biofuels, the (food) prices may come up between 40 and 80 percent on top of what you can see," he told reporters on the sidelines of an agriculture and poverty conference here. "If it's well managed and we have more investment in research and technology to bring up yield levels in the crops and improve the efficiency of biofuels, these price effects may only be between five and 15 percent. So it depends on government policy," he added. Von Braun said that "globally, many countries have plans to scale up biofuel production in the order of covering 10-20 percent of their transport fuel," chiefly ethanol and biodiesel. Brazil has committed to 25 percent while Europe plans to use biofuels for 10 percent of the countries' needs by 2020, he added. In Asia, he said the picture was mixed, which China having announced plans to shut down some of its ethanol plants "because of the concern for using too much grain for them." On the other hand, India has moved rapidly into ethanol production, Japan wants to import more biomass to address its international commitments on dealing with climate change, and Malaysia and Indonesia both wanting to be major suppliers of biodiesels based on palm oil. "So there is a general idea that this is an important market. It will be partly driven not only from the energy market side but from the global demand for renewable energy." He said crops which are "fundamenetal for the livestock industry are being affected and clearly we will see a lot of correlation in the price movement in the energy market and in the food market." -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From edelman at greenidea.info Fri Aug 10 00:58:26 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:58:26 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Cellulosic Ethanol - Clean but Worth Unproven Message-ID: <46BB39A2.4050705@greenidea.info> *Cellulosic Ethanol - Clean but Worth Unproven * Highlight: "Converting biomass into fuel means less biomass for soil which is crucial to maintaining soil fertility. Growing crops and cellulosic processing plants also require huge amounts of water. There are also biosafety issues since the cellulosic process uses genetically engineered enzymes and genetically engineered crops as feedstocks, he said..... ...While large companies like Dow Chemical, Monsanto as well as Exxon and Royal Dutch Shell among many others are certainly involved, not a single cellulosic plant has gone into production yet despite 50 years of research." *** ** IPS, 30 June 2007 - With biofuels being blamed for rising food prices and offering limited environmental benefits, diverse luminaries like former U.S. vice-president Al Gore and Microsoft's Bill Gates are throwing their considerable support behind cellulosic ethanol, a second generation biofuel. The big benefit cellulosic ethanol has is that virtually any plant material -- left-over corn stalks, sawdust, wood chips, native perennials grown on marginal lands -- could be turned into 'green gold', a low-emission fuel for the transportation sector. "Cellulosic ethanol would reduce carbon emissions 88 percent over gasoline," says Bruce Dale, a chemical engineer at the Biomass Conversion Research Laboratory at Michigan State University. Dale recently published a life cycle analysis comparing various fuels on a carbon emissions per kilometre basis in the prestigious journal Science. "Any form of ethanol is greatly superior to gasoline in this respect," Dale told IPS. And he calculates that cellulosic could supply all of the U.S.'s gargantuan appetite ? 200+billion U.S. gallons -- for liquid fuel without pushing up food prices because it will use non-food crops grown on marginal lands. But, he cautions, the cellulosic green-gold revolution will have to proceed carefully to avoid mistakes such as palm oil biodiesel production in south-east Asia that has been labelled as 'deforestation diesel' by environmental activists. European subsidies for biodiesel prompted an enormous boom in planting palm oil trees in Indonesia and Malaysia in the past few years. Forests were clear-cut and peat swamps drained to plant hundreds of thousands of hectares. Cutting the forests and draining the swamps emitted far more carbon than could ever be saved from using biodiesel, a number of recent analyses show. "Biofuels for transport is the wrong approach entirely," says Andrew Boswell of Biofuelwatch, a British environmental NGO. Vast monocultures of oil palm, soya, sugar cane and maize for biofuels results in massive losses of biodiversity and rural livelihoods, serious impacts on water, soil, and food security, Boswell told IPS. Biofuelwatch and more than 150 civil society organisations have called on the European Union to abandon their targets for biofuel use. A May 2007 UN Energy report concurred stating that biofuels are more effective when used for heat and power rather than in transport. Boswell does not see cellulosic as much of an improvement as a fuel for transport. Converting biomass into fuel means less biomass for soil which is crucial to maintaining soil fertility. Growing crops and cellulosic processing plants also require huge amounts of water. There are also biosafety issues since the cellulosic process uses genetically engineered enzymes and genetically engineered crops as feedstocks, he said. "Investments in energy-efficiency, plug in hybrid cars and more transit would be cheaper and more effective," said Boswell. "Cellulosic ethanol is just the next big money-maker for the agro-chemical and biotech corporations," he said. While large companies like Dow Chemical, Monsanto as well as Exxon and Royal Dutch Shell among many others are certainly involved, not a single cellulosic plant has gone into production yet despite 50 years of research. "It's much more difficult and complex to get ethanol from cellulose," says John Ferrell, co-director of the National Biomass Coordination Office within the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE). A corn kernel is mostly starch and water, which is easy to breakdown into a sugar and start the fermentation process that produces ethanol, Ferrell said in an interview. Cellulose is the structural part of a plant -- what holds a plant up -- and it contains much more than starch and water, lignin for example. Genetically engineered bacteria that produce special enzymes can break down some of the materials but not all of it, so there are several steps in the process, longer fermentation times and more energy inputs. "It's a more costly process, while corn-ethanol production is a proven and profitable technology," says Ferrell. The world's first and only pre-commercial cellulosic demonstration facility has been in operation for several years in Ottawa, Canada. Funded in large part by the Canadian government and Royal Dutch Shell, the Iogen Energy Corp. facility uses wheat, oat and barley straw to make a 100,000 litres of ethanol a year. Iogen has been hard at this for close to 25 years and are about to build a full-scale production facility in Iowa, thanks to 80 million dollars from the DOE as part of a special 385 million dollar U.S. government programme to kick-start the nascent industry. The goal of this largesse is have four to six small but commercial-scale cellulosic plants up and running by 2010, says Ferrell, Iogen among them. As oil prices stay high, banks and other investors are eager to finance corn ethanol facilities but will steer clear of cellulosic until it proves itself, hence the need for government subsidies, he says. "It's hard to grasp the current state of the technology because it's in the hands of private companies," says Elizabeth Marshall, an economist at the World Resources Institute who studies the industry. "There are a lot of smoke and mirrors in the industry with everyone scrambling to get money," Marshall said in an interview. As a result, companies like Iogen are secretive and decline IPS' requests for interviews. And technical challenges remain, she says. The special-enzyme producing bacteria are fussy about what they eat and most operations require a specialised, uniform feedstock such as wheat straw and nothing else. "However, if it works the energy balance for cellulosic is much better than grain ethanol which uses a lot of energy just to grow crops like corn as feedstocks," Marshall concludes. Corn prices are at record highs in the U.S. due to the growing demand for ethanol. According to FAO's latest Food Outlook report, global food import bills are increasing, partly due to soaring demand for biofuels. Whether cellulosic feedstocks will compete with food crops for land and water depends on how the industry evolves. Marshall is investigating the various implications of a possible future with a major cellulosic industry. Where and how are the high volumes of biomass going to be grown? How will they be transported and stored? How much biomass can be removed without negative impacts on the soil? How will the industry affect food prices? A holistic examination of the industry is needed to make sure it brings the promised environmental benefits and minimise the impacts on food prices, she says. "Protective legislation will be needed to guarantee those benefits and impacts," she adds. (This article is the first of a three-part series by the author on cellulosic ethanol and the impact of subsidies.) This article is reproduced with the kind permission of the Inter Press Service News Agency (IPS). Visit IPS News for more news and articles and to subscribe to free newsletters . -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From edelman at greenidea.info Sat Aug 11 12:28:03 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:28:03 +0200 Subject: [sustran] "Transit Effectiveness Project", good example for improvement process? Message-ID: <46BD2CC3.6070308@greenidea.info> This example is from San Francisco and could be a good example for how to improve public transport in YOUR city... the results of this short-term project are not yet in and I am not sure what various advocates think about it, but at least it could provide some ideas on a structure to implement, so that a PT agency can better interact with its users and others, with the goal of improving the system..... If anyone wants to hook up with some advocates who are not reachable through the site please let me know. - T -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From zvi at inro.ca Mon Aug 13 23:21:09 2007 From: zvi at inro.ca (Zvi Leve) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:21:09 -0400 Subject: [sustran] [Fwd: Re: Africa starts to gear up for biofuels] Message-ID: <46C068D5.20308@inro.ca> This did not make it to the list last friday, so I will try again.... Zvi -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sustran] Africa starts to gear up for biofuels Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:00:09 -0400 From: Zvi Leve To: edelman@greenidea.info CC: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport References: <46BB35BD.5070306@greenidea.info> Furthermore, the amount of energy which goes into /producing/ bio-fuels is not negligible. It is by no means certain that using these "renewable sources" as an alternative energy/fuel source is sustainable. Here is an interesting blog piece about producing "*Ethanol from Corn: Neither Renewable nor Reliable"* http://conversationsdesalon.blogspot.com/ We need to use /less/ energy, not only find alternative sources! Zvi Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory wrote: > *Africa starts to gear up for biofuels > > .... From schipper at wri.org Tue Aug 14 00:44:11 2007 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: [Fwd: Re: Africa starts to gear up for biofuels] Message-ID: <46C0440B0200003800016824@HERMES.wri.org> The way some say it is Bio fuels are less and less bio and more and more fools! >>> Zvi Leve 08/13/07 10:21 AM >>> This did not make it to the list last friday, so I will try again.... Zvi -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sustran] Africa starts to gear up for biofuels Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:00:09 -0400 From: Zvi Leve To: edelman@greenidea.info CC: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport References: <46BB35BD.5070306@greenidea.info> Furthermore, the amount of energy which goes into /producing/ bio-fuels is not negligible. It is by no means certain that using these "renewable sources" as an alternative energy/fuel source is sustainable. Here is an interesting blog piece about producing "*Ethanol from Corn: Neither Renewable nor Reliable"* http://conversationsdesalon.blogspot.com/ We need to use /less/ energy, not only find alternative sources! Zvi Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory wrote: > *Africa starts to gear up for biofuels > > .... -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From edelman at greenidea.info Tue Aug 14 00:55:05 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:55:05 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: [Fwd: Re: Africa starts to gear up for biofuels] In-Reply-To: <46C0440B0200003800016824@HERMES.wri.org> References: <46C0440B0200003800016824@HERMES.wri.org> Message-ID: <46C07ED9.1080102@greenidea.info> Mythanol *** Or they could call it Cargrain... or Autograss... - T Lee Schipper wrote: > The way some say it is > Bio fuels are less and less bio and more and more fools! > > >>>> Zvi Leve 08/13/07 10:21 AM >>> >>>> > This did not make it to the list last friday, so I will try again.... > > Zvi > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [sustran] Africa starts to gear up for biofuels > Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:00:09 -0400 > From: Zvi Leve > To: edelman@greenidea.info > CC: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport > > References: <46BB35BD.5070306@greenidea.info> > > > > Furthermore, the amount of energy which goes into /producing/ bio-fuels > is not negligible. It is by no means certain that using these "renewable > sources" as an alternative energy/fuel source is sustainable. Here is an > interesting blog piece about producing "*Ethanol from Corn: Neither > Renewable nor Reliable"* http://conversationsdesalon.blogspot.com/ > > We need to use /less/ energy, not only find alternative sources! > > Zvi > > Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory wrote: > >> *Africa starts to gear up for biofuels >> >> .... >> > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:29:13 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:29:13 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:30:21 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:30:21 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:30:46 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:30:46 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:31:19 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:31:19 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:31:38 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:31:38 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:03 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:03 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:29 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:29 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:32:52 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:52 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:33:14 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:33:14 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:33:50 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:33:50 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:04 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:04 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:25 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:25 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:35:48 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:35:48 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 00:35:54 2007 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlos F. 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valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:48:53 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:48:53 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:49:26 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:49:26 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar Thu Aug 9 00:49:55 2007 From: valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar (valeria.serrano at serrano-pecorari.com.ar) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:49:55 -0300 Subject: ***removed*** Message-ID: ***removed*** From edelman at greenidea.info Wed Aug 15 22:27:55 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:27:55 +0200 Subject: [sustran] [Fwd: African Biofuels Leaders to Meet] Message-ID: <46C2FF5B.2000904@greenidea.info> -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Matthew Probyn Subject: African Biofuels Leaders to Meet Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:54:54 -0400 Size: 9265 Url: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070815/dc6a09de/AfricanBiofuelsLeaderstoMeet.mht From edelman at greenidea.info Thu Aug 16 00:34:30 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:34:30 +0200 Subject: [sustran] World Carfree Network's 2nd Annual Street Conversion Design Contest Message-ID: <46C31D06.2040905@greenidea.info> From WCN... "2nd Annual Street Conversion Design Contest The value of human-scaled carfree areas is increasingly appreciated, both among urbanists and the general public. Yet how can we transform existing areas to create lively people-oriented spaces free of traffic? Through our 2nd Annual Street Conversion Design Contest, we are challenging architects, artists and ordinary citizens from around the world to design carfree spaces from formerly car-oriented spaces. And where possible, we're also encouraging people to realise the designs on the ground. *Update:* Thanks to a grant from Artists' Project Earth , we are able to do further global outreach to announce this year's contest more widely. Therefore the deadline has been extended to *November 15, 2007*. The grant has also allowed us to offer cash prizes of ?100-200." See for more information... -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From edelman at greenidea.info Wed Aug 22 19:15:29 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:15:29 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Rich 'can pay poor to cut carbon' Message-ID: <46CC0CC1.3090803@greenidea.info> * Rich 'can pay poor to cut carbon'* Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/6957328.stm Rich nations should be absolved from the need to cut emissions if they pay developing countries to do it on their behalf, a senior UN official has said.* * The controversial suggestion from Yvo de Boer, head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), has angered environmental groups. They say climate change will not be solved unless rich and poor nations both cut emissions together. But Mr de Boer said the challenge was so great that action was needed now. * Carbon credits * The UN's binding global climate agreement, the Kyoto Protocol, currently requires industrialised nations to reduce the majority of emissions themselves. But Mr de Boer said this was illogical, adding that the scale of the problem facing the world meant that countries should be allowed to invest in emission cuts wherever in the world it was cheapest. "We have been reducing emissions and making energy use more efficient in industrialised countries for a long time," he told BBC News. "So it is quite expensive in these nations to reduce emissions any more. "But in developing nations, less has been done to reduce emissions and less has been done to address energy efficiency," Mr de Boer observed. "So it actually becomes economically quite attractive for a company, for example in the UK, that has a target to achieve this goal by reducing emissions in China." He said rich nations should be able to buy their way out of 100% of their responsibilities - though he doubted that any country would want to do so. Green groups said the proposal was against the spirit of the UN, which agreed that wealthy countries - who were responsible for climate change - should do most to cure it. Mike Childs from Friends of the Earth said: "This proposal simply won't deliver the cuts we need in time. The scientists are telling us that we need to cut carbon dioxide (CO2) by 50-80% by 2050. "Unless rich countries start to wean themselves off fossil fuels right away this won't happen." Doug Parr of Greenpeace was equally critical of Mr de Boer's suggestion. "The current trading system is not delivering emissions reductions as it is," he said. "Expanding it like this to give rich countries a completely free hand will simply not work." Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/6957328.stm Published: 2007/08/22 06:39:54 GMT -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 13:13:18 2007 From: bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com (Ramon Fernan) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sustran] LPG as transport fuel Message-ID: <16997.58314.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Soon LPG (liquified petroleum gas) or propane fueled buses will be introduced in Metro Manila with the plan being to replace all diesel fueled buses. Probably most of the taxicabs here already run on LPG. LPG is supposed to be better than diesel or gasoline because: 1) it has less emissions, and 2) it is cheaper and therefore potentially will generate higher incomes for operators and drivers. LPG is still a fossil fuel and is therefore not a real alternative. Materials I've skimmed through seem to highlight the environmental and economic benefits as well. Are there problems with using LPG as transport fuel? If it is so much better (or just better0 why isn't it more widely used? I was wondering what people's thoughts are on this? Ramon Fernan III ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 13:24:33 2007 From: bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com (Ramon Fernan) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sustran] news article on LPG buses in Manila Message-ID: <953939.28207.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Sorry, I forgot to append this news article on LPG buses in Manila to my earlier query on this fuel. Ramon Fernan III LPG-run buses to ply Metro Manila roads By Abigail L. Ho Inquirer Last updated 00:10am (Mla time) 08/15/2007 MANILA, Philippines ? Before the year ends, buses running on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)?a fuel commonly used for cooking by households?will start plying the streets of Metro Manila. The Philippine LPG Bus and Taxi Co. Inc. will pilot-test 10 LPG-run buses from Chinese manufacturer King Long Buses by October, which will ply the SM Fairview-Alabang route via C5, said company director Emmanuel Atienza. He added that the Board of Investments recently gave them the go-signal for the duty-free importation of up to 200 buses. The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board, on the other hand, has assured them that it would issue franchises for 60 of the buses. ?Our target is to get rid of all diesel-run buses,? Atienza said, noting that the test run would determine whether or not these buses would function well on Philippine roads. The first 60 buses that will be given LTFRB franchises will ply Metro Manila routes, while the remaining 140 buses will likely be used for provincial trips and as shuttle buses. The 100-percent LPG-run buses will not only help reduce the country?s overall diesel consumption, but are also expected to reduce harmful emissions and improve the condition of the environment, Atienza said. The drivers of these buses will likewise benefit from reduced costs and higher earnings, as autogas?or LPG used as transport fuel?costs only P23 a liter compared to diesel, which sells for around P33 a liter. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From roryer at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 18:12:57 2007 From: roryer at yahoo.com (Rory McMullan) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:12:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [sustran] Dontan Eco Village Message-ID: <382940.53614.qm@web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've heard several conflicting stories about Dong Tan Eco Village, I understand from sme sources like the article below that it is a model for future development in China, from others that the 'eco' part of the plan it is just a cover for developers to build on the island that is an important breeding area for migrating birds. I understand that it will not be car free, and the bridge to the mainland will accomodate cars. There has also been talk of developing a special hydrogen car as part of this project, which sounds slightly fanciful, and I'm personally not a fan of private cars powered by alternative power sources anyway. Perhaps they may be emission free, but they would not qualify as sustainable in my book. China's eco-entrepreneurs step up By Christina L Madden http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/IH23Cb01.html China surpassed the United States this year as the world's top producer of carbon-dioxide emissions. This came as no surprise given China's size, economic growth and environmental record. According to the World Bank, 16 of the world's 20 most polluted cities are in China, and as many as 750,000 premature deaths occur in the country each year due to water and air pollution. Although civil society is similarly stifled, the Chinese environmental movement has taken great strides - and made great progress - in combating the harms of rapid development. China's social entrepreneurs have taken up the environment as a principal concern, aided by international expertise and funding for a range of activities. The Shanghai Industrial Investment Corp has partnered with design and engineering firm Arup to build the Dongtan eco-village on a marshy island off the coast of Shanghai. Dongtan, slated to sustain 500,000 people with renewable energy and emission-free transportation, could serve as a model for green development in other cities around the world. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. From edelman at greenidea.info Thu Aug 23 19:36:53 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:36:53 +0200 Subject: [sustran] [Fwd: Indian Industrialists Meet to fight Climate Change] Message-ID: <46CD6345.10302@greenidea.info> -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Matthew Probyn Subject: Indian Industrialists Meet to fight Climate Change Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:26:00 -0400 Size: 9856 Url: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070823/55a60b84/IndianIndustrialistsMeettofightClimateChange.eml From bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 16:23:01 2007 From: bayk_aksyon at yahoo.com (Ramon Fernan) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sustran] LPG as transport fuel In-Reply-To: <380-22007842311927713@M2W038.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <172766.10595.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> This exchange at the New South Wales Parliament http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/lc/qalc.nsf/ad22cc96ba50555dca257051007aa5c8/ca25707400260aa3ca25706e001e39ba!OpenDocument says that theoretically LPG should produce less harmful emissions and GHG but that in practice this varies. Factory fitted LPG engines tend to burn cleaner but retrofitted gasoline engines may emit as much as 10x more harmful gases. It also supposedly depends on fuel quality with pure propane having less emissions when burned compared to mixtures with butane (more butane means less NOX but more THC and CO2. The irony in the Manila case is that the government is aggressively pushing biofuels and a new mandates a 1% biodiesel blend and a 5% bioethanol gasoline blend for transport, so why push LPG? BTW, while we don't really like biofuels either, governments continue to promote them and developing countries regard them as a way out of poverty and dependence on foreign oil. Should we continue to completely oppose them or should we start pressuring governments to adopt sustainability standards for biofuel production? Ramon Fernan III ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From kate.czuczman at ifrtd.org Tue Aug 28 19:43:28 2007 From: kate.czuczman at ifrtd.org (Kate Czuczman) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:43:28 +0100 Subject: [sustran] IFRTD Opinions Fair August Competition Message-ID: <200708281042.HBD85389@c2bthomr02.btconnect.com> - Apologies for cross posting - Dear colleagues A reminder that the deadline for IFRTD's August opinions fair is Friday 31st August. The theme this month is 'rural transport and the environment'. You Are invited to submit a 1000 word opinion piece on this theme, drawing upon your working experience or studies. The winning entry will receive ?100 and will be published on the IFRTD website. Other entries will also be selected for publication. HOW TO ENTER: Please send: - email submissions to ifrtd@ifrtd.org - post submissions to IFRTD Secretariat, 113 Spitfire Studios, 63-71 Collier Street, London, N1 9BE, United Kingdom - fax submissions to +44 (0) 20 7713 8290 Remember to include your full name and contact details with your submission. To find out more and to see the themes for forthcoming months please go to: http://www.ifrtd.org/new/issues/op_fair07.php With best wishes Kate -- Kate Czuczman Editor and Communications Coordinator International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Email: kate.czuczman@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org Tel: +44 (0) 20 7713 6699 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7713 8290 The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From sutp at sutp.org Tue Aug 28 22:17:47 2007 From: sutp at sutp.org (SUTP Team) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:17:47 +0700 Subject: [sustran] GTZ-SUTP Questionnaire on Sustianable Transport Sourcebook Message-ID: <000001c7e975$d53ae280$7fb0a780$@org> Dear Colleagues, We request you to kindly spare some of your time to answer the following questions which will help us to evaluate our efforts in disseminating the Sustainable Urban Transport sourcebook for policymakers in developing cities. Please forward your answers (questionnaire below) to sutp@sutp.org (if this is sent in a listgroup, please do not directly reply to this message). You can write (select) your answers directly after each question. Questionnaire on the Impact of the Sourcebook on SUTP users 1. Do you know the GTZ - Sustainable Transport: a Sourcebook for Policy-makers in Developing cities (e.g. "the sourcebook") and its 25 modules? a. Yes b. No 2. If you know the sourcebook or some its modules, on a scale of 1 - 5 how do you rate the following: ( 1 being "low quality" and 5 being :"high quality") a) The print quality of the Sourcebook (e.g. printed from the PDF version): ___________ b) The relevance of the content to the title : _____________ c) The ease of access to the Sourcebook for download or viewing : ___________ 3. From your opinion, which modules are the most useful (you can indicate approximate title of the module)? ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 4. How would you describe the sourcebook to a colleague or friend? Please write below one or various sentences: ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ________________ 5. What would be your comments in improving the Sourcebook (diffusion, quality, content, extent of each module, or any other aspect you find relevant) ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ 6. How did you get copies of the modules you've read? Tick all that apply: a) Downloaded from www.sutp.org website b) Downloaded from another site (please indicate which website) c) During a conference/workshop (indicate which one) d) Print copy (2003 version) e) Copied from friend, colleague or other f) Given during a GTZ course (please indicate which one) g) Given during a university course (please indicate which one) 7. How have you read the modules? a) Online on the internet (HTML version) b) Downloaded and read them on the system (Adobe PDF) c) Printed copy (indicate if printed from PDF or the original print version) 8. In what area(s) are you currently using the Sourcebook? Check all that apply a) As a resource to implement sustainable transport policies b) As a tool to develop an urban transport project (under a public entity-local government) c) As a tool to develop an urban transport project (under a public entity-national government) d) As a tool to develop an urban transport project (as consultant) e) As a tool to teach university students (please indicate course details) f) Other (please specify): ___________________ 9. In what languages have you used/read the sourcebook (check all that apply)? a) English (all modules available) b) Chinese (23 modules available) c) Spanish (23 modules available) d) Romanian (3 modules) e) Indonesian (3 modules) f) Vietnamese (5 modules) g) Thai (1 module) h) Korean (1 module) 10. What languages should the sourcebook be translated to? Please indicate if you have suggestions of institutions/ people who could contribute with translations ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________ 11. What topics would you suggest for future modules? Please indicate if you have suggestions of institutions/ people who could contribute with writing them ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________ Further recommendations/comments: The information required above will be used to improve the sourcebook's potential, outreach and scope. If you have any other comments that you would like to expand on, please let us know by writing in the space below: ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________ Thank you for your time and effort in answering this questionnaire. Your comments are very valuable to us in improving the Sourcebook. Please direct any questions regarding this questionnaire to sutp@sutp.org Kind regards SUTP Team From edelman at greenidea.info Thu Aug 30 05:36:49 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:36:49 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Syngenta introduces tropical sugar beet for biofuels Message-ID: <46D5D8E1.70802@greenidea.info> from the "Life is not so sweet when you get run over" files... Syngenta has introduced sugar beet in India for cultivation in tropical conditions. Tropical sugar beet, says the company, brings significant agronomic, environmental and output advantages to Indian farming and the Indian economy. The beet, it says, delivers similar output yields to sugar cane and can be used both for processing sugar for food and conversion to bioethanol... Full story: -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From whook at itdp.org Fri Aug 31 00:30:15 2007 From: whook at itdp.org (Walter Hook) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:30:15 -0400 Subject: [sustran] examples of one way roads turned back into two way roads? In-Reply-To: <46D5D8E1.70802@greenidea.info> Message-ID: <01c501c7eb1a$acda1940$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> Does anyone have any good examples of a big multilane one way road that was recently turned back into a two way boulevard, and any studies of the impacts? Best Walter -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:37 PM To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport Subject: [sustran] Syngenta introduces tropical sugar beet for biofuels from the "Life is not so sweet when you get run over" files... Syngenta has introduced sugar beet in India for cultivation in tropical conditions. Tropical sugar beet, says the company, brings significant agronomic, environmental and output advantages to Indian farming and the Indian economy. The beet, it says, delivers similar output yields to sugar cane and can be used both for processing sugar for food and conversion to bioethanol... Full story: -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From dsengupta at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 01:32:03 2007 From: dsengupta at gmail.com (Dibu Sengupta) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:32:03 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: examples of one way roads turned back into two way roads? In-Reply-To: <01c501c7eb1a$acda1940$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> References: <46D5D8E1.70802@greenidea.info> <01c501c7eb1a$acda1940$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> Message-ID: Walter, Charles Street in Baltimore downtown is being planned to be converted to two-way in some segments. You can contact Maryland State Highway Administation or City of Baltimore to get more information This link gives an overview http://charlesstreet.mdprojects.com/introduction.htm Thanks, Dibu On 8/30/07, Walter Hook wrote: > > Does anyone have any good examples of a big multilane one way road that > was > recently turned back into a two way boulevard, and any studies of the > impacts? > > Best > Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org > [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf > Of Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:37 PM > To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport > Subject: [sustran] Syngenta introduces tropical sugar beet for biofuels > > from the "Life is not so sweet when you get run over" files... > > Syngenta has introduced sugar beet in India for cultivation in tropical > conditions. Tropical sugar beet, says the company, brings significant > agronomic, environmental and output advantages to Indian farming and the > Indian economy. The beet, it says, delivers similar output yields to > sugar cane and can be used both for processing sugar for food and > conversion to bioethanol... > > Full story: > < > http://www.biofuelreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1163 > &Itemid=> > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > > Todd Edelman > Director > Green Idea Factory > > Korunn? 72 > CZ-10100 Praha 10 > Czech Republic > > Skype: toddedelman > ++420 605 915 970 > ++420 222 517 832 > > edelman@greenidea.eu > http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ > www.flickr.com/photos/edelman > > Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network > www.worldcarfree.net > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to > join > the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. 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