[sustran] Re: Satelite cities : Which transport strategy ?

[Jain Alok]

PnR can only be attractive if the land for the parking is cheap and the
parking prices in the city centre is much more expensive as compared to the
PnR. Here in Hong Kong with no subsidy from Government, the PnR experience
is not so encouraging. Land is expensive and is in short supply.
Multi-storey car-parks are never financially viable if the parking rates for
PnR is low. Also, it does not seem to make any considerable impact in
reducing the traffic on the urban area roads. Probably, the critical mass is
lacking.

Railways are a good idea for high density development corridors. Here in HK,
the future new towns are planned to be railway centric with a high degree of
pedestrianisation, lower parking densities, exclusive public transport
corridors etc. If you want more details, check www.info.gov.hk and go to
sites for Planning Department and Transport Bureau.

Alok Jain
Hong Kong
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harun al-Rasyid Sorah Lubis [mailto:halubis at trans.si.itb.ac.id]
> Sent: October 11, 2000 5:13 PM
> To: sustrans
> Cc: bagus; Hedi Hidayat
> Subject: [sustran] Satelite cities : Which transport strategy ?
> 
> 
> Jakarta's neighboring cities, namely Bogor, Bekasi, Tangerang 
> have been
> pushed to carry some extra load of residential choice. In 
> fact, the four
> cities has become a megapolitan of 25 millions people. Net 
> outing rushed to
> Jakarta from each (the satellite) city more or less 200.000 
> people per day.
> Toll road widening, plus suburban rail double tracking have 
> been the recent
> policies. Nevertheless, day-to-day congestion remains a nightmare for
> commuters.
> 
> What interesting is motorcycle park and ride seems to be getting more
> popular, as motorcycle parking space and occupation are 
> widespread in the
> suburban rail stations heading to Jakarta. Putting more lanes 
> both motorways
> (toll roads) and arterial will not solve the problems. The 
> most obvious
> solutions, alternatively, is doing some TDM measures, like 
> car pooling, park
> and ride plus pricing to restrict car get into the capital 
> city Jakarta.
> 
> The recent and 'always mood of the local government of the 
> satellite cities
> is to keep doing more and more predict and provide, mainly, 
> toll road and
> arterials, just coincidentally follow Jakarta's most recent transport
> policy, even for radial urban roads.
> 
> Noted, now the regional autonomy plus fiscal decentralization 
> is soon be in
> place for the satellite cities. My question is how to assess 
> economically
> the tdm schemes such as the park and ride ? Is the any 
> experience in other
> megapolitan cities in the world, as to how the transport 
> strategy should
> best be formulated, rather than providing more roads ? To 
> what extent  rail
> could   fill the excessive demand ?  What if the four region 
> be administered
> under one minister, rather than different local government ?
> 
> 
> Harun al-Rasyid S. Lubis             http://trans.si.itb.ac.id
> Traffic Lab, Transport Engineering Division
> Dept. of Civil Engineering - ITB
> Jl. Ganeca 10 Bandung 40132 - Indonesia
> Tel/Facs. +62 22  250 23 50  halubis at trans.si.itb.ac.id
>