[sustran] Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun

[Wendell Cox]

RE: [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & BruunIn the US, Canada and Western Europe it is quite normal for a bus or rail commute to take more than one-half hour over distances that could not be covered in a reasonable period by bicycle. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jimmy Tan 
  To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' 
  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun


    
   I'm not sure about rail, but if in the cities or within the city itself if a bus takes more then half an hour to travel from one point to another( or even within  the city and it's suburbs) , it's usually stuck in a traffic jam. Hence by using a bike, from my experience, uses fairly less time than buses or private vehicles(PVs).

   As for rails and there is slightly any excuse for frequently delay that I would agree with you, Alok Jain. 

  Pedal power 
  Jimmy 
  STEP 

    -----Original Message----- 
    From:   Jain Alok [SMTP:ajain at kcrc.com] 
    Sent:   Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:24 AM 
    To:     'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' 
    Subject:        [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 

    Yeah...but where your commute takes over half an hour by bus or rail, bike 
    cannot substitute. In big cities, I would consider bike's role more as 
    feeder to rail transit or other public transport, with some sort of 
    bike-sharing concept (to use at the destination end). 

    Cheers 
    Alok Jain 

    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Milnor H. Senior, III [mailto:msenior at uswest.net] 
    Sent: February 22, 2000 5:43 AM 
    To: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org 
    Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 



    In response to the comments made regarding the high cost of transit products 
    the 
    issue is a combination of high capital costs to build these rail products 
    plus 
    the operating costs which will always exceed fare revenues so that constant 
    operating subsidies are required.  I believe the answer lies in building 
    transit 
    infrastructure which can be built at an affordable cost and operated on a 
    profit 
    making basis by private enterprises so that no public subsidies are 
    required. 
    Please examine the web site www.biketrans.com to see an example of the type 
    of 
    transit infrastructure which can exceed the carrying capacity of highway 
    lanes, 
    most light rail systems and which offers higher speeds in congested urban 
    areas.  The System is not only less expensive to build and operate than 
    current 
    transit products but the real savings will come from the improvement in 
    public 
    health which will result from building exercise back into normal life 
    activities.  With cardiovascular disease as the number one cause of death in 
    the 
    US and with obesity increasing at an alarming rate it is time to consider 
    making 
    changes that benefit both human health and the environment while lowering 
    transportation costs.  Bicycling is the most efficient form of 
    transportation 
    known and expanding its use within our transportation system should be used 
    to 
    solve urban congestion problems. 
        Sincerely, 
        Milnor H. Senior, III 
        President - Bicycle Transportation Systems, Inc. 

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