<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Yes, I've heard this as well from the energy expenditure side with some huge numbers. The argument I know is that some systems have very high net energy expenditures during construction which are too high compared to the actual emission reductions during operation (as you also note). But I've actually read it in rail vs roads discussions which was a bit frightening... not sure what to think since numbers for mass transit systems are so often misleading and operating companies never give you the actual numbers on many issues (for instance, when you ask about subsidies, many operating companies state that they don't have subsidies when they are 100% aware of them...). Best regards, Carlos. Sudhir wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:ef31aa131001281636w7cc405aem3b846b491272fc36@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div>Hi Carlos,</div> <div> </div> Its around 3500 tons/km/year which is average. Important thing is as shown by Mikhail chester - is construction in? it can be 3-28 years of operation emissions ( depends on how you measure it).. <div> </div> <div>regards</div> <div>Sudhir <div> </div> <div> <div class="gmail_quote">On 29 January 2010 08:16, Carlosfelipe Pardo <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carlosfpardo@gmail.com">carlosfpardo@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I don't get it: 200 tons of CO2 reduction per day with 300 thousand commuters? In what timespan? For background, Delhi metro estimated 90 thousand tons reduction between 2004- 2007 ( X pax per day?) , and TransMilenio in Bogotá got 70 thousand tons reduction for 2008 with 1.6 million pax per day. Do the numbers come out right for this Mumbai monorail? I'm not good with numbers but somehow the ones for Mumbai seem a bit high... anyone? Best regards, Carlos. - 2008, 70,000 tons <div> <div class="h5"> Eric Britton wrote: > Mumbai monorail project looks to reduce CO2 emissions > > By Lisa Sibley > Published 2010-01-27 09:22 > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia-based Scomi Group, a global service provider mainly > in the oil and gas industry, said today its trial run of India's first > monorail car for a project in Mumbai has been a success. > The Malaysia-listed company also specializes in urban transit systems, with > an emphasis on India, China, the Gulf states, and Brazil. The trial run > occurred yesterday, also a national holiday, the Republic Day of India. > The monorail is expected to prevent 200 tons of carbon dioxide emissions > daily. The proposed structure is also considered environmentally friendly > because it won't obstruct sunlight or trap excessive emissions. In addition, > it's expected to be quieter than other modes of transportation. > Scomi India's Country President Suhaimi Yaacob said in a news release the > project's focus is on sustainable mobility, reduced urban congestion, > improved reliability, and comfortable travel. > Other cities looking to reduce mass transport emissions include China's > Lanzhou, which is working on a comprehensive urban development plan linking > a new city center with a rapid bus transport system, expected to result in a > cleaner, more economical mass transportation system (see China's Lanzhou > makes plans to reduce mass transport emissions > <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cleantech.com/news/5429/lanzhou-mass-transport-system" target="_blank">http://cleantech.com/news/5429/lanzhou-mass-transport-system</a>>  [1]). > Scomi's engineering division and partner Larsen & Toubro, India's largest > engineering and construction conglomerate, secured $545 million for the > Mumbai Monorail Project in November 2008, and are expected to complete the > project by 2011. > Scomi is tasked with delivering 60 cars, making up 15 sets of four-car > trains. Each four-coach monorail is expected to be able to accommodate about > 600 passengers, carrying a total of nearly 300,000 daily commuters. > The monorail project is expected to have a 20-kilometer (12.4 mile) proposed > route between Jacob Circle and Chembur, a suburban neighborhood in eastern > Mumbai, with one central depot and about 18 user-friendly stations. 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