I have a view!  :)  i don't like it. <a href="http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/02/just-so-were-not-confused/">http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/02/just-so-were-not-confused/</a> saving cars is bad, and i'm also thinking of the Jevons Paradox, named after William Stanley Jevons: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox</a> less energy on the micro-scale, but much more energy on the macro scale. boo. <div class="gmail_quote"> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Ramon Fernan <<a href="mailto:bayk_aksyon@yahoo.com">bayk_aksyon@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Don't know if this topic has been discussed here but what do people think of Shai Agassi's Better Place business model for promoting electric cars? More junk on the road? Not even worth considering? Better Place has a website: <a href="http://www.betterplace.com" target="_blank">www.betterplace.com</a> and Agassi has a blog to promote his ideas: <a href="http://shaiagassi.typepad.com/" target="_blank">http://shaiagassi.typepad.com/</a>. Thomas Friedman of the NYT (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/opinion/27friedman.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/opinion/27friedman.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin</a>) has lately been promoting his plan to rid the world of dependence on (Arab) oil. (Agassi is Israeli). -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to <a href="http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss" target="_blank">http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss</a> to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). </blockquote></div> -- .peter