<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Dear Dr. Saranathan, The discussions here are always made to give a integrated and a sustainable solution. As you have mentioned transport definitely depends on many factors but some of them that you mentioned are debatable. I will be very glad if you can elaborate what you meant and also what you exactly mean by INTEGRATED (in terms of what). Dear All, This topic on the 1lakh car has been very interesting and I would agree with Walter. Banning a car based on the price does not make sense.   Economic instruments and improvements in NMT and public transport are the key elements for "every" city in India. Excessive fuel pricing may sound a viable option but, IMO, it has no effect on a long term basis. It could act as a temporary barrier during which other improvements could be made. kind regards, Sunny P.S: We have modules on Economic Instruments, NMT and Public Transport and can be downloaded for free from our website (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sutp.org">www.sutp.org</a>).   <div class="moz-signature"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"> <meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12">  <link rel="themeData" href="signature_files/themedata.thmx"> <link rel="colorSchemeMapping" href="signature_files/colorschememapping.xml">  <style>  </style> <div class="Section1"> Santhosh K. (Sunny) Kodukula Project Assistant GTZ Sustainable Urban Transport Project (SUTP) Room 0942, Transport Division, UN-ESCAP ESCAP UN Building Rajadamnern Nok Rd. Bangkok 10200, Thailand Tel:  +66 (0) 2 - 288  1321 Fax: +66 (0) 2 - 280  6042 Mobile: +66 (0) 84–113-0181 e-mail: <a href="mailto:santhosh.kodukula@sutp.org">santhosh.kodukula@sutp.org</a> Website: <a href="http://www.sutp.org">www.sutp.org</a> Skype: sunny_nwho<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> TR Saranathan wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:BAY141-F258FF27775FF8AA73834F68B040@phx.gbl" type="cite">Sir/Madam, Nowadays the approach in solving many problems has been an INTEGRATED one. Why not do this keeping in mind all the suggestions so far given for and against this problem also. Further, Transport problems depend on many Factors and mainly the Location, the Climate,the Economy etc of a particular Place. Dr.T.R.Saranathan <blockquote type="cite">From: "Carlos F. Pardo" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carlosfpardo@gmail.com"><carlosfpardo@gmail.com></a> Reply-To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org"><sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org></a> To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org"><sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org></a> Subject: [sustran] Re: MMRDA will file PIL to block Tata's Rs1 lakh car Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:00:24 -0500 Just for the sake of argument, I don't get Walter's point about congestion charging being "fairer" than banning a cheap car. Looking at it from a certain angle, congestion charging is also a "ban" from the CBD to those who only have the money to buy a car and put gas on it (most middle class people in low-income countries). It has the perverse effect that only those who have 8 pounds a day to "invest" on the London congestion charging (i.e. rich people) are the ones who have the "privilege" to ride their car inside the city (i would define that as inequity in access). All others can only use their car outside of the CBD. Am I way off? However, there is also the fact that revenue from congestion charging can be used (and is used) for improvements in public transport... I think the best is to (also) include charges to buying the car, such as the ones used in Singapore and Shanghai. The bid system is a way of controlling very low costs of vehicles while not providing any revenue for the cities to improve their public transport, NMT infrastructure, etc. Best regards, Carlos F. Pardo Coordinador de Proyecto- Project Coordinator GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC) Cl 93A # 14-17 of 708 BogotÃ¡ D.C., Colombia Tel/fax:  +57 (1) 236 2309  Mobile: +57 (3) 15 296 0662 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carlos.pardo@sutp.org">carlos.pardo@sutp.org</a>   <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sutp.org">www.sutp.org</a> Lee Schipper wrote: Thanks. we need to continue this discussion, as it is clear that the boom and bust â€” either way a rapid rise in uncontrolled private motorization â€” will endanger ALL indian cities, but a simple banning of the "vehicle" is a poor way of making up for authorities'/society's inability to plan and enforce! Lee Schipper Director of Research EMBARQ, the WRI Center for Sustainable Transport 10 G St. NE Washington DC, 20002 +1202 729 7735 FAX +1202 7297775 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.embarq.wri.org">www.embarq.wri.org</a> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html>