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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm interested to hear that this is done in Quito.
I had considered it a possibility - but my worry was about problems at junctions
and the like. Needs thinking about. Anyone out there who can
advise?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sujit - you say the bus lanes in Pune are "in the
central" - can you be more specific? Or even better, point us to some photos of
the scheme in action!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>-- <BR>Alan Howes, Perthshire, Scotland</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lutman@globalnet.co.uk href="mailto:lutman@globalnet.co.uk">Peter
Lutman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sri@pn1.vsnl.net.in
href="mailto:sri@pn1.vsnl.net.in">sri@pn1.vsnl.net.in</A> ; <A
title=sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org
href="mailto:sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org">Global 'South' Sustainable
Transport</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [sustran] Re: BRT - switchover
lanes .... alternatively,why not run on the other side of the
road-divider?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that the 'wrong-way' working on
dedicated, segregated bus lanes is used in Quito and elsewhere in South
America so that (trolley)buses with doors on the right can unload and load at
central platforms. It seems to work well, but I am not sure what arrangements
would be necessary if the vehicles had to leave the busway and join general
traffic on a section of the route.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peter Lutman</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sri@giaspn01.vsnl.net.in href="mailto:sri@giaspn01.vsnl.net.in">Prof
J G Krishnayya</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org
href="mailto:sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org">'Global 'South' Sustainable
Transport'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:26
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [sustran] Re: BRT - switchover
lanes .... alternatively,why not run on the other side of the
road-divider?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just an
idea.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Please shoot it down
(with reasons) if it is impractical for </SPAN></FONT><?xml:namespace prefix =
st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
/><st1:country-region><st1:place><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">India</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:country-region><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<?xml:namespace
prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
/><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Traffic in
</SPAN></FONT><st1:country-region><st1:place><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">India</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:country-region><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> drives on the left
side of a road. In the case of a divided highway, one proposal is to run the
BRTS in a separate lane (taking the place of the “Fast Lane”, i.e. to the
right hand edge of the left half of the road.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This means that entry
and exit from the busses would have to be to and from fresh islands in the
road (since doors are on the left side of the bus) or else fresh doors would
have to be cut into the bus, so that passengers can board and get off onto a
central island<SPAN class=GramE>..</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Actually, for reasons
of flexibility, and if these are “Long” busses, with centre doors, it seems to
me to make sense to strengthen the body and cut doors out on the right side of
the bus. Then a single stop or station would exist at each location for both
directions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An alternative, which
I have not seen mentioned yet, is to run the BRTS busses on the WRONG SIDE OF
THE ROAD. That is, busses going north would run in the grade-separated, “Fast
lane” of the southbound side of the road. And busses going <SPAN
class=GramE>South</SPAN> would run in the fast lane of the northbound side of
the divided highway.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then one
would use the normal doors (on the left side of the bus), thus eliminating any
need to strengthen the chassis.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pune experience
within days of the start of BRTS makes it clear that with our population
density, and general attitude towards discipline in general, Grade-Separation
between the normal roadway (of at least 8 inches) and the BRTS lanes, is
essential to avoid many, many fatal accidents.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If the BRTS lane is grade-separated,
there should be no problem about the BRTS busses running in the opposite
direction to the regular stream of traffic.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Contra-ideas,
anyone?</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">J G
Krishnayya<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">==============<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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