<HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Also, don't forget that the avialable rights-of-way and existing infrastructure have a lot to do with</DIV> <DIV>how attractive various options might be. Cities never start with a clean slate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Eric Bruun </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- From: Whook <WHOOK@ITDP.ORG> Sent: Jan 28, 2007 12:00 PM To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport <SUSTRAN-DISCUSS@LIST.JCA.APC.ORG>, andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org Cc: Arturo Ardila Gomez <AARDILA@UNIANDES.EDU.CO> Subject: [sustran] Re: Histories and Ideas Behind Bogota's BRT agree arturos phd is one of the best sources..lead technical experts were brazilians from sao paulo, most former metro or sp trans employee,  now consultants affiliated w logit, who had studied curitiba system but not worked on it, and localpartners.  business model, also key, was done by columbian economists and manage,ment cosultants trying to overcome some of the management problems observed in curutiba quito,etc.  mayor penalosa's Personal vision itself should not be discounted. walter <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">--------- Original Message -------- From: "Global 'South' Sustainable Transport" <sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org> To: "Global 'South' Sustainable Transport" <sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org>, "andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org" <andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org> Cc: "Arturo Ardila Gomez" <aardila@uniandes.edu.co> Subject: [sustran] Re: Histories and Ideas Behind Bogota's BRT Date: 28/01/07 02:49 To keep a long story justifiably long, start with Prof. Arturo Ardila's PHD Thesis from his MIT Days -- which aims squarely at your question. I copied this to him and I'm sure he'll send it. Nothing else comes close. Then, for better or worse, you only have a few hundred more articles, half in Spanish to read... Lee Schipper Director of Research EMBARQ, the WRI Center for Sustainable Transport 10 G St. NE Washington DC, 20002 +1202 729 7735 FAX +1202 7297775 <A class=autolink href="http://www.embarq.wri.org/" target=_blank>www.embarq.wri.org</A> >>> <A class=autolink href="mailto:andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org">andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org</A> 26/01/2007 12:13:27 >>> Dear All, I've been following the Sustran listserv for quite some time now, but this is my first posting. Apologies if this question has been covered before. Regarding Bogotá's widely hailed BRT system, who were the major designers of the system, and whose ideas did it rely upon? Was Curitiba's experience and expertise heavily relied upon? Did it involve international consultants or consulting firms? Or was it more of a homegrown affair? Who were the designers, and are they still active? Any relevant links to history of the system would be quite welcome. Many Thanks, Andrew Crane-Droesch United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)/ Global Environment Facility (GEF) 304 E 45th st, 9th Floor New York, NY 10016 <A class=autolink href="mailto:andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org">andrew.crane-droesch@undp.org</A> -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to <A class=autolink href="http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss" target=_blank>http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss</A> to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.9 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>