<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I suggest to add Category 0, those who are getting worse by doing plenty - of the "wrong" stuff - and are pretty determined to keep doing it. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those who are "doing nothing" - Category 1/2 - have at least paused in the hole they are digging.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would put Dublin in category 3, dressing itself up as something better. For all the talk about Transport 21 and public transport investment, the big bucks have gone into roads and will continue to do so for the next few years. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For Cork, I would say that they are 4, with the caveats exactly as you describe them.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brendan.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>_____________________________________________________________________________________<BR>From Brendan Finn, ETTS Ltd.   e-mail : <A href="mailto:etts@indigo.ie">etts@indigo.ie</A>   tel : +353.87.2530286</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lize@sustainable.org.za href="mailto:lize@sustainable.org.za">Lize Jennings</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=eric.britton@ecoplan.org href="mailto:eric.britton@ecoplan.org">eric.britton@ecoplan.org</A> ; <A title=sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org href="mailto:sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org">'Global 'South' Sustainable Transport'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:57 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [sustran] Re: Old Mobility rules - 5 kinds of cities</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Cape Town, South Africa probably falls within category 2 and 3. Although<BR>there are some people in the local government who wish to implement measures<BR>to improve the situation, particularly in addressing the problem of<BR>congestion, there is still the problem of traditional thinking and planning<BR>who believe that expanding roadways are probably the only way to go.  In<BR>many cases the traditional (old-school) thinkers and those with the money.  <BR><BR>The interventions that are planned to be implemented are on a very small<BR>scale and are usually run as pilot projects, which once tested, stop because<BR>funding runs out.  <BR><BR>South Africa is hosting the 2010 Soccer World Cup and we are currently<BR>experiencing major congestion problems, particularly in the centre of town<BR>(where the main stadium will the built), so we can't image what it will be<BR>like once the large number of visitors arrive in the country.  <BR><BR>There are however, some organizations that are working with governments to<BR>change their thinking and planning methods and hopefully make a difference.<BR><BR><BR>We'll just have to wait and see. <BR><BR>Regards<BR>Lize <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:<BR><A href="mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+lize=sustainable.org.za@list.jca.apc.org">sustran-discuss-bounces+lize=sustainable.org.za@list.jca.apc.org</A><BR>[mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+lize=sustainable.org.za@list.jca.apc.org] <BR>Sent: 24 January 2007 11:22 PM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:Sustran-discuss@jca.apc.org">Sustran-discuss@jca.apc.org</A><BR>Subject: [sustran] Old Mobility rules - 5 kinds of cities<BR><BR>I should like to propose to you a thinking exercise. It<BR>works like this.<BR><BR>Looking at them from a sustainability or Old/New Mobility<BR>perspective, I would propose that there are basically five gross categories<BR>of cities in the world today. Moreover, it's my guess that as you work your<BR>way down this list you find that the number of cities in each progressive<BR>category grows much smaller. <BR><BR>Here it is in a nutshell, with "worse" of course meaning<BR>more traffic, more CO2 et al each year.<BR><BR>Category 1. Those cities who are doing nothing, getting<BR>worse fast, and don't seem to care <BR><BR>Category 2. Those doing nothing, getting worse. . .  but<BR>who are starting to worry. And who just don't know what to do about it.<BR><BR>Category 3. Those who overall are continuing to do worse<BR>(i.e., who continue to have growing traffic, more CO2, etc.), but have<BR>started to do a few better things - examples, building some<BR>pedestrianization, cycling paths, buying more buses, improved intermodal<BR>links, traffic engineering to smooth flows and provide most consistent<BR>speeds.  And above all talking a lot about it. But who from the bottom line<BR>are still spending their money in the wrong (old) way, such that the only<BR>real impact of all this is to provide a cover for not really attacking the<BR>problem at the root.<BR><BR>Category 4. Those who have decided explicitly to break<BR>with past practices and are starting to do long lists of good things. About<BR>these there are three important things to be said: First that they are an<BR>extremely small minority. Second, in every case I know, the basic bottom<BR>line traffic and environmental indicators continue to move in the wrong<BR>direction.  And finally when you look at the budgets they are still at the<BR>end of the day spending more on roads and parking than on the rest. <BR><BR>Category 5. Cities how have bought into the New Mobility<BR>Agenda and have adopted an aggressive integrated retrofit strategy for the<BR>sector with clearly defined, publicly available benchmarks and indicators of<BR>both micro and macro progress.  Who have radically revised their budgets in<BR>the transport and related sectors, and are spending more on the new measures<BR>and programs than on road building, etc. <BR><BR>To close with three questions/requests. <BR><BR>* First to invite your comments, corrections, critical remarks,<BR>refinements etc on the above. <BR>* Second, to ask you where in this rough ranking you would put the<BR>city or cities you know best.<BR>* And finally, to ask if you can tell me one single city in the world<BR>who have made it to the final level --  one in which the move to<BR>sustainability is currently on track and, in being so, able to provide a<BR>shining example for the rest. (Though we have some great examples of cities<BR>that are real trying to dig in at Cat. 4, and that already is a wonderful<BR>start. After all, it's a big shift and we have to start somewhere.).<BR><BR>Kind thanks. <BR><BR>Eric Britton<BR><BR><< File: ATT00016.txt >> <BR> <P> <HR> <P></P>-------------------------------------------------------- <BR>IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. <BR><BR>Please go to <A href="http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss">http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss</A> to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). 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