<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Dear all,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> As part of the training course on public awareness and behavior change, I’ve developed a video to show space efficiency of cars vs public transport. You can see the video at: <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=guodaBkDPP0">http://youtube.com/watch?v=guodaBkDPP0</a> . After some discussion with Eric Britton (relevant excerpts below), it would be useful to hear anybody else’s comments. Of course, bear in mind that I did this for policymakers and social scientists (and others) who will promote sustainable transport with simple and explanatory tools.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Any feedback is most welcome. Best regards,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Carlos F. Pardo Coordinador de Proyecto GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC) Cl 125bis # 41-28 of 404 Bogotá D.C., Colombia Tel:  +57 (1) 215 7812<o:p></o:p> Fax: +57 (1) 236 2309  Mobile: +57 (3) 15 296 0662 e-mail: <a href="mailto:carlos.pardo@sutp.org" title="mailto:carlos.pardo@sutp.org">carlos.pardo@sutp.org</a> Página: <a href="http://www.sutp.org/" title="http://www.sutp.org/">www.sutp.org</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> De: Eric Britton [mailto:eric.britton@ecoplan.org] Para: 'Carlos F. Pardo SUTP' Asunto: So it's TEN times more space-efficient???<o:p></o:p> </div>  <o:p></o:p> I’m not quite sure that is quite the whole story Carlos.  Might we explore the bigger picture together here for a moment?<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> 1.      The clip lasts for 40 seconds ###yes.<o:p></o:p>  2.      It shows five lanes of urban highway in Bogotá with car traffic at close to capacity, which means average speeds I guess on the order 50/60 kph? #### no, it’s actually 10-20 km/h.<o:p></o:p>  3.      And then the one dedicated lane with a single TM artic, moving along at a clip a good deal faster than the cars. ### yes.<o:p></o:p> 4.      You suggest that the bus is full?? #### I know that bus is full.<o:p></o:p> ** Just to be sure: What you are saying is that all the TM busses are pretty much full in the same rush hours that the car lanes are full<o:p></o:p>  5.      It is clear that whereas there is zero room for more cars in the five lanes they occupy, the reserved lane could accommodate more vehicles. ### yes, BUT that would mean oversupply, and less people per bus (I assume you mean bus by “vehicle”). ** Not all that sure Carlos. The objective of our NewMob policy is high quality high comfort transport for all. So we have a couple of objectives .. . <o:p></o:p> o              The first is to get through a carrot/stick policy drivers out of all those cars and into other space-efficient transport.<o:p></o:p> o              TM is a great example of this last but far from the only one<o:p></o:p> o              Remember that we want to come as close to ‘car-like mobility’ (refers to direct access, waiting times, comfort, etc.) as we can.<o:p></o:p> o              This suggests that we need not only TM but a lot of other good (and flexible) stuff as well (we call it xTransit but call it as you will).<o:p></o:p> o              We also need to bear in mind that when you cram too many people on board a bus, this is not necessarily a sign of total success.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In fact, what I would love to have – and I am sure that some one must have this in hand – would be a kind of ‘thermometer of space efficiency’, which will give us a meter stick for looking at all this stuff and somehow getting it into proportion.<o:p></o:p> More than that, I would; then like to see if we can somehow establish this as a new mobility measuring stick which becomes a tool of the trade.<o:p></o:p>  #### right, or it could be just a “rule” that you would have, e.g. “count the number of cars that pass by during a given time, and then divide by x to see how many buses are needed. If it is more than one lane, divide again by the amount of lanes…”<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>