Eric.Britton wrote:
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  <div class="Section1"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 120%; font-family: Arial;">There is not a single meaningful point made about what brings
all of us here together: the fundamentals of how people get around and access
what they need in cities.&nbsp; <br>
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This reminds me of the TRB exhibition hall where every year I meet the
same two representatives of certain US federal agencies, one
representing the &quot;road safety&quot; point of view, and another from the
&quot;pedestrian safety&quot; point of view. There they are, seated side by side,
both passionately discussing safety issues, yet the idea that
pedestrian and road safety might be intertwined is never addressed.
They literally have parallel literature: intersection safety - safety
devices for vehicle turning movements (ie various protected lanes and
smart signals), and smart markings for pedestrian crossings (which
never show any cars around)....<br>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 120%;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 120%; font-family: Arial;">Is <font color="black"><span style="color: black;">this characterization</span>
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altogether incorrect? Unfair? Useless as an observation?</span></font></p></div>
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Unfortunately, abstracting everything into it's component parts and
then improving the &quot;efficiency of the system&quot; is much easier than
dealing with messy reality where things don't exactly follow predictable relationships and correspond to our
expectations.<br>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 120%;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 120%; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 120%;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 120%; font-family: Arial;">I guess that is why
we try to call it <font color="black"><span style="color: black;">"</span></font>New
Mobility<font color="black"><span style="color: black;">"</span></font> and
not <font color="black"><span style="color: black;">"</span></font>transportation<font color="black"><span style="color: black;">"</span></font>.<font color="black"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; We are trying to draw a clear line between these two
markedly different worlds of policy and practice. Otherwise . . . </span></font></span></font></p>

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<font size="2"><font face="Arial">And this is why I think that
transportation issues cannot be seperated from land-use/urban form.
There is
no point in talking about &quot;new mobility&quot; if we don't address the
reasons why people need to get around in the first place! There does
seem to be a bit of movement in this direction (ie recognition of the
importance of the transportation-land use connection and trying to
&quot;deal&quot; with this within models) within the transportation community of
late.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
<br>
Zvi<br>
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