[sustran] Re: Is TDM avoid or shift?

[Ashok Datar]

dear todd, cornie and carlos and others
all the balancing of various TDM are good and necessary. but parking
restrictions and pricing is perhaps the first tdm which is location and a
user specific.
if we make parking difficult , resricted and apprpriately priced based on
demand and supply balance, this will get a larger no of people out of cars
and resort to either sharing, bussing or walking and bicing
u can achieve desired results
it is unpleasant but clear to understand
so it should not be excluded. rather it should be at the top of hierarchy
and when we free the road space, it provides space and extra passengers to
buses . and buses become more efficient as they carry more people for more
people distributing fixed cost over larger no of pass miles providing
substantial economies
ashok datar


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Cornie Huizenga <
cornie.huizenga at slocatpartnership.org> wrote:

> Hi Todd and others,
>
> What is missing in the discussion so far is the need to decouple economic
> growth/social development by limiting/reducing individual travel.  Key
> elements of TDM for me are the vehicle quota's which we now see in China
> (following the example of SIngapore) and congestion charges. Those are
> often not low hanging fruits but not having them in place means a largely
> incomplete TDM strategy. Carlos - these are avoid measures.
>
> Modal shifts to walking public transport - belong under Shift, not under
> Avoid.
>
> Cornie
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Todd Alexander Litman <litman at vtpi.org
> >wrote:
>
> > Thanks Carlos!
> >
> > Yes, I recommend defining Transportation Demand Management (TDM) broadly
> to
> > include any strategy that changes travel behavior to increase
> > transportation
> > system efficiency. It excludes changes in the vehicle drive technology
> > (e.g., it does not include hybrid or electric vehicles) but includes both
> > mode shifts (from automobile to walking, cycling and public transit) and
> > travel reduction strategies (pricing reforms, more compact community
> > development, telework). Carsharing is a TDM strategy to the degree that
> it
> > allows some households to reduce their vehicle ownership which leverages
> > reductions in their total vehicle travel.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Todd Litman
> > Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org)
> > litman at vtpi.org
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sustran-discuss-bounces+litman=vtpi.org at list.jca.apc.org
> > [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+litman=vtpi.org at list.jca.apc.org] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Sunny ICLEI
> > Sent: October-29-13 8:07 AM
> > To: Carlos Felipe Pardo
> > Cc: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
> > Subject: [sustran] Re: Is TDM avoid or shift?
> >
> > My understanding of TDM is not one single tool or strategy. It is a
> > collection of tools there are tools that support the Avoid idea and some
> > that support the SHIFT idea.
> >
> > I am sure if Todd Litman is reading this he will shed more light on this.
> > He
> > is the creator of the wonderful TDM toolkit http://www.vtpi.org/tdm/
> >
> > Quoting Todd
> >
> > " Transportation Demand Management (TDM, also called Mobility Management)
> > is
> > a general term for strategies that result in more efficient use of
> > transportation resources"
> >
> > hope this helps
> > cheers
> > sunny
> >
> >
> > On 29 Oct 2013, at 15:43, Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpardo at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, probably this has been discussed before, but I'd like to pose the
> > > question to see people's views:
> > >
> > > Under the ASI (avoid shift improve) approach, is TDM avoid or shift?
> > > Or both?
> > >
> > > Happy to hear everyone's views. I say shift!
> > >
> > > Carlos.
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