[sustran] Re: "So much for green transport."

Alok Jain alok.priyanka at gmail.com
Thu Jul 26 21:10:19 JST 2012


I am trying to obtain a copy and will let you know once available.

Cheers
Alok

On 25-Jul-2012, at 1:08 PM, Cheryl Deutsch wrote:

> Does anyone have a copy of the CRRI report that they could pass along?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cheryl
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Karthik Rao-Cavale <krc12353 at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> So essentially the argument is that since Delhi has more car traffic, the
>> city cannot have dedicated bus lanes (no point going into the argument of
>> whether they constitutes  BRT or not. That debate is futile and
>> meaningless.)
>> 
>> But I would like to see the weighting of bus and car trips in CRRI's study.
>> Their claims to expertise have no relevance to the value judgments they
>> made regarding the assignment of these weights.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Alok Jain <alok.priyanka at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Delhi BRT Saga continues. Instead of fixing problems with BRT,
>>> everybody busy pointing fingers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/CRRI-explained-why-Ahmedabad-BRT-works/articleshow/15133172.cms?intenttarget=no
>>> 
>>> CRRI explained why Ahmedabad BRT works
>>> Rumu Banerjee, TNN | Jul 25, 2012, 03.46AM IST
>>> Article
>>> Comments
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Read More:CRRI|Central Road Research Institute|BRTS|Ahmedabad BRT
>>> Works|Ahmedabad BRT
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> NEW DELHI: In its desperation to save its ill-conceived and poorly
>>> executed BRT project, Delhi government is now shooting the messenger. It
>>> has not only questioned the study conducted by the Central Road Research
>>> Institute (CRRI) but also launched a scathing attack on the institute
>>> itself.
>>> 
>>> Falling back on its worn-out argument of a rich-poor divide, it called
>> car
>>> owners "arrogant" and accused those who conducted the study of ignoring
>> bus
>>> commuters.
>>> 
>>> But berating car owners will in no way make the public transport system
>>> any better - for that governance has to improve — just as launching a
>>> tirade against CRRI will not make a dent in the organisation's
>> reputation.
>>> CRRI director, Dr S Gangopadhyay, told TOI: "CRRI has been researching on
>>> road and transport solutions for decades. If anyone has questions about
>> the
>>> methodology used for the study, we will be happy to answer. Our report
>> has
>>> used international norms employed in such studies."
>>> 
>>> Gangopadhyay's reaction comes in the wake of the government getting stung
>>> by CRRI's finding that "no BRT" was the best option. It has been promptly
>>> dubbed "anti-poor" by the government. It may help to recall that the
>> agency
>>> had been hired by Delhi government on the suggestion of the court, which
>>> had rejected the transport department's plan to hire RITES for the study.
>>> Incidentally, RITES in a 2004 study of transport solutions for Delhi had
>>> recommended 34 BRT corridors. Preparation of the CRRI report, which is
>>> based not only on a week-long experimental trial run but also on a series
>>> of field surveys, culminated with a simulation exercise. The simulation
>> was
>>> of the traffic scenario on the 5.8km stretch in 2015 with and without
>> BRT,
>>> keeping the existing traffic volume as the base, factoring in an annual
>>> increase in traffic of 5-7%.
>>> 
>>> The study found that doing away with BRT would result in a decrease of
>> 48%
>>> in travel time, and a substantial 61% decrease in delay on the stretch.
>>> Compare this to the option of continuing with BRT, which would result in
>> a
>>> further increase in travel time of 13% in 2015 as well as an increase of
>>> 15% in delays on the corridor.
>>> 
>>> Sources said the surveys undertaken — including user perception,
>> occupancy
>>> studies, pedestrian studies, passenger flows and saturation flow studies
>>>>> show that BRT is not working at its optimum at present. Said a transport
>>> department official, "There is no denying that there are traffic issues
>> on
>>> the stretch. Unlike the Ahmedabad BRT, the Delhi BRT is after all an open
>>> corridor."
>>> 
>>> It's a point that the CRRI report has also underlined. It observes that
>>> the proportion of cars is almost 1.5 times that of Ahmedabad on the motor
>>> vehicle lane of Delhi BRT, which contributes to the lower journey speeds.
>>> This, says the report, is because the "width of the available MV lane is
>>> only 7-8m in either direction of travel". This width is less than the 10m
>>> width available for each direction of travel before BRT was conceived.
>>> 
>>> The report adds: "Since the Ahmedabad BRTS is a closed system, the
>>> commercial travel speeds are much higher. The bus composition is about 3%
>>> of total traffic in both cases. The observed average speed of buses on
>>> Ahmedabad BRT section varies between 22-25kmph (CEPT Ahmedabad) which is
>>> much higher than that of Delhi BRTS - 13-15kmph)."
>>> 
>>> The last fact seems to have been completely overlooked by Delhi
>>> government, which has been citing the success of the Ahmedabad BRT to
>>> continue with its floundering experiment.
>>> 
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> Cheryl Deutsch
> Department of Urban Planning
> UCLA
> 
> President
> UAW Local 2865
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