[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

[Sarath Guttikunda]

Dear Lee and Co.,

attached is a summary of the results published by Ministry of Urban
Development in 2008-09 on the passenger travel trends and they tell a good
story of where the cities are headed.

Important messages on this page:

   - As the cities grew (in size of population, which is proxy to the
   geographical size), access to the work places in less than 15 mins travel
   time decreases
   - As the cities grew, the share of public transport in the form of bus
   transport (percent of passenger trips) increases - which is a good sign,
   meaning the cities are realizing the importance of promoting public
   transport and more efforts are headed that way as the cities expand
   - As the cities grew, the share of non-motorized transport in the form of
   walking and biking (percent of passenger trips) decreases - which is the sad
   part of the equation, meaning the role of cars and SUVs is overtaking the
   need to promote NMT
   - Lower the share of non-motorized transport in the city, lower the
   service index (% trips accessible in less than 15 mins travel time) and
   higher the congestion index, primarily due increase in the personal
   transport

The access to public transport is growing, but not enough to support the
travel demand growth in the big cities. Figure 3, top right panel, presents
the share of passenger trips covered by the public transport against the
population in the cities. The access to the public transport is high in the
megacities, and expected to grow under the JNNURM funds. However, the lack
of infrastructure in the bus manufacturing sector to supply the necessary

With regards,
Sarath

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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Lee Schipper <schipper at berkeley.edu>wrote:

> I will copy this to Sarath Guttikunda
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting of
> Delhi. Can the Moderator admit him?
> he has some amazing MoUD data on accessibility and mobility (number of
> people traveling less than 15 minutes to work) for dozens of Indian
> cities, and the number taking mass transit. The largest cities in India
> fail..its a mess..the medium sized cities (like Pune) are doing a bit
> better, but the "small" cities (ahem, small compared to Delhi or Mumbai)
> offer more near=by access, consistent with what Ashok Dator said.
> --
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> > it is a very lively and serious debate on this new "toy" , may be good
> for
> > very select uses at airports etc but cant be a sensible option for other
> > major areas in any large and complex city.
> > in fact, we need to have overall restraint policy for the urbanization as
> > such all over
> > if we want to cope with congestion, pollution, energy and sustainabiliy
> > I think the cities need to degrow beyond a certain level
> > they must remain within ground level transportation - preferably bussing
> (
> > i.e. when u cant walk or bike )
> > hopefully for most worktrips and other regular trips for education as
> well
> > -
> > it should be walking or biking oriented and then the BRTS
> > and only in rare cases, taxies and hired personal cars for occasional
> uses
> > so that we go towards miniimizning private, individually owned cars and
> > provide more dense but low carbon impact and sustaibly green habitat
> > we cant have all comforts which are based on personal car and then try to
> > reject it
> > we need to work towards alternate design of living especially in
> > sustainable
> > manner as global availability of energy, food, water is going to be
> > liimited
> > and need to equitably available and transport is a crtical element in the
> > way we live especially in large urban societies based on exploitation of
> > rural pop which can also be more sustainabale and "urban" with new
> > techonlogies
> > can we think altogether differently - not too radically
> > ashok datar
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM, eric britton
> > <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>wrote:
> >
> >> This is a nice lively discussion, and I thought it might add a bit of
> >> value
> >> if we posted it to World Streets (even if we are supposed to be closed
> >> as we
> >> seek financial support to keep going) and popped a poll in there for
> >> your
> >> voting pleasure. You will see the full story at
> >>
> http://worldstreets.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/prt-proposal-for-delhi-convinces-chief-minister-but-does-it-convince-you-see-poll-results/
> >>
> >> Let's see what kind of consensus, divergence, trends if any we get here.
> >>
> >> What is more beautiful and encouraging than informed active citizens who
> >> make their voices heard.
> >>
> >> Vote!
> >>
> >>
> >>
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