[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

[Lee Schipper]

Ravi, can you re-express the cost as numbers in

$/person-hour of capacity?

Could be very telling
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> Dear Sonal,
>
> I work with an Urban Transport consultancy in Delhi and also worked on a
> demand estimation project for PRT in GIFT city, Gujarat, India.  I hope
> that makes me reasonably qualified to  put forward my understanding of the
> PRT.
>
> The peak speed of the POD is about 40 kmph. But when you take the access,
> egress, waiting  and transfer times, we observed in our study for GIFT
> city that people have
> lesser travel time cycling or in many cases even walking. This without
> even considering the travel cost.
>
> Cost of construction of PRT is around Rs 40 crore/km (about USD 8 million
> per km) and its function is to serve as a feeder mode to Metro/BRT.. The
> cost of BRT will be Rs 10 crore/km (about USD 8 million per km). Even
> though the cost for the passenger is fixed at Rs 6/km, the social cost
> will be higher. So, the feeder mode is going to cost more than the main 
> line.
>
> The other point put in favour of the PRT is that it can work in narrow
> lanes, like the one's being designed for Lucknow. We have narrow lanes
> in the Old city areas of most of our cities, which were primarily
> designed for walking. Why would we need to tamper with that for PRT,
> which is intended for the same purpose i.e. accessing the main PT lines
> on the arterials.
>
> But PRT has good symbolic value. Like Flyovers and Metros, they are there
> towering in front of everyone and hence can be claimed as an achievement
> of the government. Might be useful for the next election. Along the way,
> the contractors and the executing agencies have some work. So, we cant
> deny that it benefits some people at least.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Gadepalli,
> i-Trans Pvt. Ltd.,
> TBIU, IIT Delhi,
> New Delhi.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 27/4/11, Ahuja, Sonal (Capita Symonds)
> <Sonal.Ahuja at capita.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: Ahuja, Sonal (Capita Symonds) <Sonal.Ahuja at capita.co.uk>
> Subject: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister
> To: alok.priyanka at gmail.com,
>  aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com
> Cc: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
> Date: Wednesday, 27 April, 2011, 10:11 AM
>
> Indeed this system, must be seen complimentary, metros don't attract the
> car users due to interchange and park and ride problems, PRT is seen to an
> effective complementary system that offer cleaner, convenient and more
> efficient system than riding a car. Its not the only solution but yet
> another system that city planners and engineers can use to solve the
> problem of urban congestion and pollution along with promoting walking,
> cycling and an effective bus system. PRT must be seen a part of effective
> comprehensive urban transit strategy and not in isolation.
>
>
> With warm regards,
> Sonal
>
> Sonal Ahuja
> Director International Development,
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jains [mailto:alok.priyanka at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 05:15 AM
> To: Aashish Gupta <aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com>
> Cc: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org <sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org>
> Subject: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister
>
> I am surprised that the entire discussion is going towards
> "substitution" not "complementarity". Delhi already has very ambitious
> plans for Metros (which are full to the brim - coming from personal
> experience) and BRT, but there is a strong need to curb private
> vehicle growth. PRT though tad expensive, could be a perfect feeder
> system to BRT and Metros and for intra-zonal short-distance travel.
>
> Reporting from Delhi.
> Alok Jain
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Aashish Gupta <aashu.gupta20 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> And Rs 6 per Kilometer is just so expensive! And thats assuming that the
>> claim of Rs 6 per kilometer will stay.
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