[sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

Dal Maluf dalmaluf at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 27 04:16:33 JST 2011


Is it serious?
 
Come on? Large cities in the developing world, like Delhi, Mumbai, Beijing, Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo, where I come from, need to invest in "large scale" network of public transportation systens that can carry 20,30 40 thousand persons per hour/directon, and the only way to do it is in the existing infra-structure on the surface (taking private cars out, and leaving the space for BRTs or LRT)...
 
Monorails, PRT and all these "futuristic ideas" don't do anything good to our cities, rather than taking our the attention of public officials on where they should been focusing their priorities.... Here in Sao Paulo, because of the "monorail dream" that JICA brought to the Mayor, we "lost 2 years" studyng these "futuristic" proposals, wasted millions of dollars in project, and now they are all abondoned, but the worst part of it was that we didn't deliver the BRTs which were planned, and only last year we came back to the long term agenda of investing in BRTs, bycicle and good sidewalks, which represents 70% of all trips in Sao Paulo!!! 
 
The only way to really mitigate urban congestion, improve air quality and allow more social inclusion to all the City, at the same time that it delivers "affordable options" of mobility to all the population is investing in BRT systems with good sidewalks and bicycle. Subways, in some very speciffic cases where high density and millions of trips in the same direction, could also be an option, but generally, BRTs are the best "cost x effective" solution...
 
We got to stop dreaming and "losing" time with these futuristic dreams... We need solutions, now!
 

De: Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpardo at gmail.com>
Para: Faizan Jawed <phaizan at gmail.com>
Cc: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 26 de Abril de 2011 15:58
Assunto: Re: [sustran] Re: PRT proposal for Delhi convinces Chief Minister

I can only imagine a replication of Bruno Latour's "Aramis"....

On 26/04/2011 12:18 p.m., Faizan Jawed wrote:
> We might remember (almost) lampooning Roger Davidheiser's vision contained
> in "The Third Generation Roadway:Metropolitan Transport for the 21st
> Century". It seems it is turning to reality in New Delhi. Some "interesting"
> bits of text has been highlighted by me. Whatever happened to common sense!
>
> -Faizan
>
> ###
> * After Metro, now Pod Cars for Delhi? *
> *New Delhi: * Delhi may soon have a pod car system on the lines of those in
> many western cities under which battery operated automated pods, having a
> capacity to carry up to six passengers, will offer transportation from point
> to point.
>
> Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, after witnessing a presentation, asked
> Delhi Integrated Multi Modal Transit System Limited (DIMTS) and Transport
> Department to prepare a detailed project report (DPR) on introduction of the
> pollution free transport system in the city.
>
> Pod car system is a public transportation mode featuring small automated
> vehicles operating on a network of specially-built tracks. In pod car
> system, vehicles are sized for individual or small group travel, typically
> carrying no more than six passengers per vehicle.
>
> After the presentation, Dikshit said her government is keen to take it up as
> a pilot project in areas such as Dwarka, Karol Bagh, East Delhi and Delhi
> University North Campus.
>
> "It will definitely supplement the existing modes of public transport and
> will come up as an alternative to the personal vehicles," Dikshit said.
>
> Transport department officials said the new system may be termed as a
> personal rapid transit.
>
> The private company, which gave the presentation on the project, has offered
> to commission it with its own resources.
>
> "Further it will be economically viable as far as the commuters are
> concerned. The average fare of the pod will come to be around Rs. 6 per km,"
> said the official.
>
> http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/after-metro-now-pod-cars-for-delhi-101691
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