[sustran] Re: First urban railway route in Hanoi under construction

K P Padiyar kppadiyar at gmail.com
Thu Sep 30 02:44:21 JST 2010


Dear All,

Even though I have subscribed to this group since 2005, I have not 
participated in their discussions so far. With my background of more than 16 
years of my service life in operating maintaining, planning and designing 
suburban rail services of Indian Railways in Mumbai which today carries 
nearly 7 million passengers daily on 5 HRT corridors of which two carry main 
line passenger and freight traffic also. Design capacity of these corridors 
is 1.2 million for dedicated corridors and half that for mainline corridors, 
I felt emboldened to muscle in on the august array of transport specialists 
on this issue.

According to Demografia 2008, Hanoi is the second largest city of Vietnam 
with a population of 3 million with average population density of 154.5 
persons/ha. According to global standards for rail based public transport, 
this is the only alternative available for meeting the demand - Tokyo, Hong 
Kong. Mumbai Moscow. (Dr. Kenworthy's work for UITP and WB in 1990s.). Hanoi 
is planning for a capacity of  28000 pphpd which works out as 467 000 
trips/day which is low compared to likely demand with CBD densities (Job + 
population) exceeding 300 as in Mumbai where Mumbai Island has a density of 
800/ha.

Mumbai also had difficulties in acquiring land for Railways which was solved 
by promulgating TDR for the entire Mumbai Metropolitan Region with an 
estimated population of 21 million (17 million in 2001, 2011 census results 
are not yet out). It was an innovative solution first issued by local State 
Government in 1991 and now copied by other metros of India. Even US is 
having such rules in some cities with heavy rail.
Vietnam has a technical collaboration agreement with India, since it was was 
united and IR has participated in some of their projects for Railways. 
Mumbai has a separate Joint sector Corporation Mumbai Rail Vikas Corporation 
undertaking Railway component of Mumbai Urban Transport Projects Jointly 
funder by IBRD, Indian Government (through IR) and Maharashtra Government. 
They are available at  www.mrvc.indianrail.gov.in   Sanctioned projects 
under execution are about 2 billion dollars.

Members of the group needing additional information on Indian high capacity 
public transport systems  can contact me and I will try my best to get it 
from original sources. IR uses wide bodied coaches 3667 mm and Dual traction 
system 1500 V. D.C. (under replacement) and 25 kV single phase 50 Hz system 
in Mumbai and other metropolitan areas. However Hanoi project as per data on 
the site quoted in the letter, mentions Chinese Government's aid for the 
project.

Ho Chi Minh city in Vietnam has recently got Japanese aid for a Metro Rail 
System Project (Financed by the Japan Special Fund) under ADB aegis 
www.adb.org/projects/project.asp?id=39500.

With regards.

K. P. Padiyar



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Subject: [sustran] First urban railway route in Hanoi under construction

> Source:
> http://english.vietnamnet.vn/social/201009/First-urban-railway-route-in-Hanoi-under-construction-937891/
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> Looking forward to see the fare and wonder how could they make it more 
> tempted
> than that of riding a motorcycle for people.
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