[sustran] Re: Pedestrian Budget

[JasonChang]

Dear Friends,

Since Jane from Chengdu China mentioned several important issues related to pedestrian facilities, I would like to provide more information regarding policy changes on Pedestrian Facilities in Taipei as follows:
1. Before 1990, there was a guideline for "Cross Walk of Pedestrian", in which several criteria had been provided for construction of elevated cross walk in intersections and the entrance of schools. Based on this guideline, more than 60 elevated cross walk (over pass bridge or underground pass) had been constructed.
2. After developing dedicated bus lanes and network of 50km on 1993~1995, a people-centered policy has been accepted so that our pedestrian has the priority of walking on ground when crossing the streets. Although this new policy has significant impact on general traffic flows, it has been accepted by the general public. Therefore, there is no any elevated facilities for pedestrian since 1995.

I have enclosed few examples of layout of dedicated bus lane and traffic engineering in the intersections in Taipei. Your comments and suggestions will be highly appreciated.

Jason

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張學孔博士 台大土木系教授
Dr. S. K. Jason CHANG (ZHANG Xue-kong)
Professor, Department of Civil Engineering
National Taiwan University
Visiting Professor
China Academy of Transportation Sciences, MOT China
Visiting Professor
Tongji University, Shanghai China
#1 Roosevelt Road, Section 4
Taipei, 10617, Taiwan
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From: sustran-discuss-bounces+skchang=ccms.ntu.edu.tw at list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+skchang=ccms.ntu.edu.tw at list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Sudhir
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:31 AM
To: JasonChang
Cc: Kanchan; Salil Bijur; Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
Subject: [sustran] Re: Pedestrian Budget

Dear Jason, Rutul, Saiful and Todd,

Thanks a lot for the insights from your side and now we have many examples
to show as to whats happening in Asia...

It looks that currently Taipei has a fairly detailed list which does not
contain only footpath or overhead crossings....

I would be posting few things which i have found in next few days.....

thanks
Sudhir

On 10 March 2010 23:51, JasonChang <skchang at ntu.edu.tw> wrote:

> Dear Sudhir and Friends,
>
> I got something from the 2010 Budget Plan of Taipei City Government:
>
> Total Budget of Taipei City Government (2010): US$5,246.06 million
>
> Budget for Pedestrians
> (1) Side walk improvement: US$8.07 million
> (2) Pedestrian access facilities to waterfront: US$9.71 million
> (3) Pedestrian signal and related devices: US$0.1 million
> (4) Others (e.g., access facilities connecting public transport,
> maintenance, ...): 2.0 million (approximated)
>
> Jason
>
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> 張學孔博士 台大土木系教授
> Dr. S. K. Jason CHANG (ZHANG Xue-kong)
> Professor, Department of Civil Engineering
> National Taiwan University
> Visiting Professor
> China Academy of Transportation Sciences, MOT China
> Visiting Professor
> Tongji University, Shanghai China
> #1 Roosevelt Road, Section 4
> Taipei, 10617, Taiwan
> voice:+886-935178543 fax:+886-223639990
> skchang at ntu.edu.tw  skchang2020 at yahoo.com.tw
> http://ce11012.ce.ntu.edu.tw
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sustran-discuss-bounces+skchang=ccms.ntu.edu.tw at list.jca.apc.org[mailto:
> sustran-discuss-bounces+skchang <sustran-discuss-bounces%2Bskchang>=
> ccms.ntu.edu.tw at list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Cornie Huizenga
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: Sudhir
> Cc: Salil Bijur; Kanchan; Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
> Subject: [sustran] Re: Pedestrian Budget
>
> Dear Sudhir and others,
>
> I think that it is important, desirable and possible to assess whether
> pedestrian $$ are spend in a empowering manner for pedestrians, whether
> they
> are neutral or whether they are (as Sujit might put it) hidden incentives
> for cars.
>
> I agree that i some cases, elevated walkways can make sense if they are
> done
> in a structured and systematic manner. E.g. Hong Kong, Bangkok or in parts
> of Makati. The reason these work is that they have moved the grade from
> ground level to one story up in the air. In the case of  Hong Kong and
> Bangkok they are directly linked to public transport. In other cases, as in
> other parts of metro Manila they are done so that pedestrians are out of
> the
> way of the cars. Sometimes in a very inconvenient manner - the one at Edsa
> and Ortigas avenue is constructed for midgets only. When I passed there I
> had to crunch in order not too lose my head!!
>
> Cornie
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Sudhir <sudhir at cai-asia.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Sujit,
> >
> > Coming from Bangalore, a city of flyovers which has just started massive
> > pedestrian crossings in the air .. i cannot agree more. But i would also
> > suggest that if you can have a context sensitive design in place.. it may
> > work in few places as shown in Makati in Manila. One  cannot just
> retrofit
> > staircases everywhere.
> >
> > We are about to complete a project for ADB which looks extensively at the
> > issues pertaining to walkability. We are looking at around 10 cities. We
> > partnered with local universities and local NGO's from CAI partnership in
> > taking this challenge and doing small scale walkability surveys which
> > includes infrastructure assessment and pedestrian interviews ( we have
> > approx 2000 Asians suggesting their requirements as to what they need
> from
> > policymakers) . We hope to keep this alive with annual surveys and media
> > campaign and you would be seeing more local level pressure being exerted
> in
> > coming days.
> >
> > we would circulate more in coming weeks...
> >
> > lets hope for the best..
> >
> > thanks
> > Sudhir
> >
> > On 7 March 2010 17:55, Sujit Patwardhan <patwardhan.sujit at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 7 March 2010
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Sudhir,
> > > We are doing an analysis of the PMC Budget - passed a few days back.
> The
> > > percentage of all Pedestrian and non motorised infrastructure is very
> > small
> > > though by including totally unnecessary and horrendous structures like
> > the
> > > Sky-Walk (another name for Pedestrian Over bridges where pedestrians
> are
> > > made to climb up many steps) under the head -  "pedestrian facilities"
> >  the
> > > budgets gives a misleading picture. These Sky-Walks just like most
> > Flyovers
> > > are nothing but opportunities for high kick backs and white elephant
> > > projects for the agencies and contractors apart from acting as one more
> > stab
> > > in the back for pedestrians whose miserable life (having to walk on
> most
> > > roads with poor condition of pavements) is already so painful that it
> is
> > not
> > > right to make him climb up many steps just to make the road free for
> auto
> > > vehicles. In fact the impetus for the sky-walks comes from two sources
> -
> > > first is corruption, and the second from the belief that roads are
> meant
> > > mainly for auto-mobiles and getting the pedestrians off the roads is a
> > good
> > > idea for improving traffic.
> > >
> > > We feel auto vehicles must stop as often and as long as necessary for
> the
> > > pedestrians to cross roads at grade. If on account of the high number
> of
> > > pedestrians the timing for cars to stop is too long  - that is a proof
> > that
> > > the road is ripe for pedestrians only treatment. The automobile then
> > needs
> > > to be banned or severely restricted through TDM measures.
> > >
> > > As usual I have been liberal in answering your question but I thought
> one
> > > could get a wrong picture by taking too narrow a focus while looking at
> > the
> > > budget.
> > > We will share our findings about the Pune Municipal Corporation Budget
> > with
> > > you. Should take about three weeks I guess.
> > >
> > > With warm regards,
> > > --
> > > Sujit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Sudhir <sudhir at cai-asia.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> We are searching for % of Budget allocated for pedestrians in our
> cities
> > >> and
> > >> unfortunately could not find many Asian cities.
> > >>
> > >> Do you know how much % of money authorities are planning  to invest on
> > >> pedestrians in your city?
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Sudhir Gota
> > >> Transport Specialist
> > >> CAI-Asia Center
> > >> Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower,
> > >> ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City
> > >> Metro Manila, Philippines 1605
> > >> Tel: +63-2-395-2843
> > >> Fax: +63-2-395-2846
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> > >
> > > --
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > “..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment
> > > to destroy the city“
> > >
> > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel
> > > Munich 1970
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> > >
> > >
> > > Sujit Patwardhan
> > > patwardhan.sujit at gmail.com
> > > sujitjp at gmail.com
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> > Transport Specialist
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Sudhir Gota
Transport Specialist
CAI-Asia Center
Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower,
ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City
Metro Manila, Philippines 1605
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