[sustran] Re: JAIPAL REDDY URGES STATES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSPORT

joshua odeleye joshuaodeleye at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 15 20:45:32 JST 2010


Rutul has indeed presented the true state of urban transport planning in most countries in the Southern Hemisphere.The Indian picture painted by him/her, is a parallel practical situation of urban transport planning, institutional and policy issues in most countries in West Africa sub-region.This situation could be reverse, if authorities  would be sincerely committed to bridging the existing knowledge gaps in transport sub-sectors in most countries of the South.
Joshua Odeleye,Ph.D
School of Transport
Lagos State University
P.M.B 0001 Festac,Ojo
Lagos,Nigeria   


--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Rutul Joshi <joshirutul at yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Rutul Joshi <joshirutul at yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [sustran] Re: JAIPAL REDDY URGES STATES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSPORT
To: Sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 6:21 AM


Hi Kanthi and others,

Patience is a good word to calm people down. Probably, that is why in Indian traditions, someone invented the concept of 're-incarnation'. One can 'have patience' till you are born again! 

In India, we build metros but we forget all about integrated ticketing or physical integration with the buses/cycles or even walking. We build expensive paid parking lots and right outside, one can park on-street for free. We have cumbersome and expensive public transport (operations, ticketing, info) when it is much cheaper, easier and socially 'superior' to go by cars and motorbikes. We build big bus based projects and forget all about pedestrians and cyclists or the other buses which are running the city. We have expensive public infrastructure projects with something as basic as 'walkable' footpaths being absent. We build expensive flyovers for cheap cars, while rest of city struggles with basic water supply network. If we have nice newly-pedestrianised areas in the city, people wants to start charging it and of course, you can park a car for free outside. 

We create new transport authorities/companies to 'hide' the old ones or the bad ones. We have different agencies for planning the landuse, planing the transport, regulating vehicles, regulating building/roads, running the buses and deciding 'what-to-do' and they dont 'talk' to each other. We have sensible and sincere govt officials who unfortunatley are 'not allowed' to take decisions. We have lots of money and the right policy now but a little capacity at the local level to spend it in the right direction. 

Sorry if it sounds pessimistic but sometimes all optimism fade away... unless one believes in re-incarnation!

Mr. Reddy heads the most difficult ministry. I sympathise with him! 

regards,
Rutul

Phd Researcher,
Centre for Transport and Society,
University of the West of England,
Bristol. 



 



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From: Kanthi Kannan <kanthikannan at gmail.com>
To: Eric Britton <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>; Sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
Cc: CAF2 <citizens-action-forum at googlegroups.com>; Hasire Usiru <hasiruusiru at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 6:05:33 AM
Subject: [sustran] Re: JAIPAL REDDY URGES STATES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSPORT


Mr. Jaipal Reddy needs to make such announcements and hence he makes them.
That's all. We should not read much into these kinds of statements. In
Hyderabad on an average weekly twice, we have people in authority discussing
with activists like us and stating that what we are telling them makes a lot
of sense but when asked about follow up / implementation the answer is "Have
Patience"

Regards

Kanthi Kannan



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Sent: 13 June 2010 23:39
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Subject: [sustran] JAIPAL REDDY URGES STATES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSPORT

If I may, and without intending any disrespect at all, I have read this
announcement several times and at the end of it do not feel particularly
optimistic about the changes it seems to promise.



But to be frank I simply do not know enough to take this statement to take
it apart item by item. That said, I would be an interested reader for anyone
with more direct knowledge and a balanced perspective to do just that for
the group.



It is my position that these statements need to be read very very carefully.



Thank you. 



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Ministry of Urban Development    
JAIPAL REDDY URGES STATES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSPORT 
CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE MEETING OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT MINISTRY HELD 

  _____  

    17:2 IST      The Union Minister of Urban Development, Shri Jaipal
Reddy has said that his Ministry has advised the States to make adequate
provision for dedicated path for the pedestrians and cycle-users wherever
roads are being built or widened. 

Addressing the Parliamentary Consultative Committee attached to his Ministry
here today, Shri Reddy also informed that the Centre is giving funds to the
States under Jawaharlal Nehru NationalUrban Renewal Mission (JNNURM) for the
constrution of footpaths and dedicated cycle lanes. He said that two pilot
research projects for the scientific management of cycle rickshaws have been
sanctioned for Delhi and Chandigarh. 

He said that the States are also being advised to promote public transport
by integrating all the modes of transport. The Centre has sanctioned Bus
Rapid Transport System (BRTS) for nine cities namely, Ahemdabad, Rajkot,
Surat, Indore, Bhopal, Pune- Pimpri Chinchwad, Vijaywada, Vishakhapatnam and
Jaipur at a cost of Rs. 4770 crore besides providing finance for 15,620 low
floor buses for the 61 cities across the country to improve the urban
transport , the minister informed. 

Shri Reddy said that the States have also been advised to amend by-laws to
make mandatory parking space for all commercial and residential properties
and to set up dedicated transport authority to manage the traffic and also
to introduce "traffic Information Magament Control Centres (TIMCC) using
ITS. He said that under the JNNURM, his Ministry provides funds for
multi-level parking complexes and assistance for setting up ITS. 

Participating in the discussion, Members emphasised the need of inclusion of
small cities also under JNNURM schemes as development of smaller towns would
help decongest the big cities in the long run. Some Members also raised the
issue of proper compensation to the families of workers who lost their lives
while working at the Metro Projects. 

The Members of Parliament who attended the Meeting were : S/Shri
C.M.Chang,Ramesh kumar, P. Kumar, Ratan Singh, Sanjay Dina Patil, Prahlad V.
Joshi, Shivakumar C. Udasi, Hukumdeo Narayan Yadav, B.K. Hariprasad,
Penumalli Madhu and Surendra Motilal Patel, Vilas Muttemwar and J.P.
Agarwal.

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