[sustran] Re: Pelican Crossings!!
Kanthi Kannan
kanthikannan at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 13:01:56 JST 2010
Dear Cornie
Greetings!!
Sad to hear the story time and again but unfortunately true. Has something
been done opposite to the ADB Office?
Warm Regards
Kanthi
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Sent: 14 July 2010 07:17
To: Paul Barter
Cc: sustran-discuss
Subject: [sustran] Re: Pelican Crossings!!
Paul,
I very much like the part in the Zebra definition: "drivers must give way to
pedestrians who
demonstrate intent to cross". I am afraid that this part has not been
read by 99.9% of the drivers in Asia.
Having lived now in Asia for almost 15 years it is always a surprise when I
go back to Europe and see cars stop when I am on the side of the road near a
zebra crossing.
Here in Asia I would put more trust in a pedestrian traffic light than in a
zebra crossing.
Cornie
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Paul Barter <peebeebarter at gmail.com> wrote:
> A few words on terminology.
>
> This is a useful debate on pedestrian facilities (and when or whether they
> help).
>
> But 'pelican crossing' and 'puffin crossing' are not familiar terms in
most
> places outside Britain. [I for one didn't understand them until looking
> them
> up just now.]
>
> So here are some wikipedia definitions (which may be wrong?):
>
> "In the United Kingdom and parts of the
> Commonwealth<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth>,
> animal names are often used to distinguish several types of such
crossings:
>
> - Zebra crossing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_crossing>: wide
> longitudinal stripes on road, often with belisha
> beacons<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon>;
> pedestrians may cross at any time; drivers must give way to pedestrians
> who
> demonstrate intent to cross.
> - Pelican crossing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelican_crossing>:
> traffic
> lights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light> for pedestrians and
> vehicles; button-operated.
> - Puffin crossing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffin_crossing>:
> pedestrian lights on near side of road; button-operated with curb-side
> detector.
> - Toucan crossing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toucan_crossing>: for
> bicycles <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle> as well as pedestrians."
>
>
> As an Australian (in Singapore) I would use 'pedestrian activated traffic
> lights' (or in casual conversation just 'pedestrian lights') for both
> pelican and puffin crossings. The animal terms are obviously shorter. But
> only useful if we all understand them. 'Zebra' seems common everywhere but
> not the others.
>
> All the best
>
> Paul
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