From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Mon Feb 1 01:30:52 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:30:52 +0100 Subject: [sustran] The only good monorail, is an old monorail (maybe). Message-ID: <01f101caa292$c3469c30$49d3d490$@britton@ecoplan.org> From: Lee Schipper [mailto:SCHIPPER@wri.org] Sent: Sunday, 31 January, 2010 17:20 To: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com In the 1960s we the good citizens of Berkeley voted to put our parts of the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) system under ground, at a cost that in today?s money is hundreds of millions plus the extra operating costs of higher propulsion energy for trains under ground. The idea was to avoid creating two sides of the tracks with an over-ground system as it appears in communities north and south of here. Good decision? I don?t know. The question is whether we could have spent the money on better station access, and other features that would have increased ridership. The North Berkeley BART Station is a huge lifeless parking lot where informal carpools form. It COULD Have been a node with cafes, apartments and businesses. Etc but no, our people would have none of this. Pity,. Ask monorail developers what THEY plan to do to increase access and activity around stations One important point about all the alternatives. The CO2 savings are there, but even at $85/tonne (the value Nic Stern puts on CO2) these savings are truly dwarfed by other costs and benefits. They rarely tip the balance for a project. And for those who really believe CO2 is a a threat (I do), TAX CO2, don?t just invoke a CO2 value to justify a project. More on this idea can be seen at http://metrostudies.berkeley.edu/pubs/reports/Shipper-ConsidClimateChange-La tinAmer.pdf Particularly the appendices for Mexico City and for a bike path system in Santiago de Chile. lee _____ From: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.co m [mailto:NewMobilityCafe@yahoohttp://metrostudies.berkeley.edu/pubs/reports/S hipper-ConsidClimateChange-LatinAmer.pdfgroups.com] On Behalf Of Heather & Kerry Wood Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:50 PM To: NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [NewMobilityCafe] The only good monorail, is an old monorail (maybe). Dear Eric Monorails, hmm... maybe I should start with the advantages. -- A very small land footprint without the cost of tunneling. -- The capacity of rail or light rail. -- A sexy look. Surely with all these advantages there is a fortune to be made? I suggest that the big disadvantages are -- Passengers are stuck up in the air when they want to be at street level (especially in an emergency). In principle this is no different from a metro. -- Noise and visual. In principle these can be at least mitigated (even by going underground in an extreme case), and at worst a monorail is much better than a road flyover. Bridge designs and noise suppression have improved since the Schwebebahn. Again, this is not so different from a metro. -- Getting trains from one track to another. You say that space is a problem if monorails need switches (I like the 'if') but there are three related problems. -- Switches are expensive as well as space-hungry. -- High-speed switches are impractically expensive. High-speed monorails manage about 70 km/h through switches (very slow for a high-speed train), by jacking a length of straight track into a curve. The displaced end must move by the width of a train plus a bit of clearance, or say 3-4 metres, so the jacked section has to be very long. -- Switches are minimised because of cost, and too few switches lead to an inflexible system. Operators struggle with any breakdown because there are few options for getting a train out of the way. Delays are easier: there is nothing you can do except make good use of any slack in the timetable. In contrast, a late-running bus can end its run before an outer terminus, transferring passengers to the bus that is now just behind. Then it can, hopefully, start its shortened inward trip on time. Light rail can do the same trick if the right loops or sidings are provided. Better still, either system can be scheduled to terminate some services before the end of the route. Heavy rail is not that flexible but can use switches to put a train on to another track, another platform, a loop or a siding. A long monorail has excellent carrying capacity -- just like a railway train -- but takes a long time to run through low-speed switches. For example, if the speed limit through a switch was 10 km/h, a 200 metre train would take 80 seconds to go through a switch 20 metres long. More complex layouts would take longer. When the train was clear, a departing train might face a further wait while the switch was reset; a matter of two or three seconds for rail but longer or much longer for monorail. I have pulled these numbers out of thin air, but they are enough to suggest that there are problems with scaling up monorail beyond a 'demonstration project'. Designing a terminus for a departure every two minutes might be a technical challenge, especially for multiple routes. Success might be a funding challenge and failure would be a commercial challenge. Monorail systems never seem to have two or more routes running on one track, as is common for rail systems. In principle passengers can interchange between routes but in practice I don't think this is done -- does anybody know of a city having two monorail routes? If it is not done, might the reason be that the city authorities got wise before the second line was built? Kerry Wood On 31/01/2010, at 6:07 AM, Eric Britton wrote: Dear Ashok and others, Thanks for sharing that Times of India article. Glad to see that someone is pointing out one or two of the downsides of this inappropriate project. But I am somewhat disappointed that no one on our Sustran list thus far seems to want to step forward and help us enumerate all the reasons why monorails are such a brain dead concept. Someone tell me that I am wrong, but among the many flagrant disadvantages/absurdities of the monorail concept for cities, include: 1. They cost far too much money given the level of service they provide 2. They don't (really) go anywhere (i.e., where they are needed in a many-to-many world) 3. Good transportation is supposed to be as close to seamless as we can make it ? and they are anything but, cut off from the rest as they are by definition 4. Limited capacity (per buck spent) 5. They are a visual intrusion (scar) on the city scape 6. The ignore, they actually degrade the street in many ways ? which is the very heart of the city 7. They are, to a pylon, to a track, to a car, to a station, ugly as sin (my old grandmother's expression). 8. If they need switches, the space requirement becomes complicated. 9. Emergencies are very messy. 10. They don't do the basic job that is needed. 11. They saddle the city with debt. 12. To be "cost effective" (ho ho), they cannot provide affordable service for the majority 13. They are not sustainable by any measure 14. They are often the project of industrial-financial-political interest alliances and even, if one digs deep, corruption. (As so often is the case with big ticket transport and other public investments.) By the way, did anyone note that almost to the day as Mumbai joyously welcomed their first test car the Las Vegas Monorail Co has filed for bankruptcy? Just thought I would mention it. In summary: They are so awful, so thoroughly dysfunctional that I even have difficulty in anyone trying to justify them (or not) in terms of anything like "relative CO2 efficiency". This I see as a splendid project for a MA of PhD student sharpening their tools, but when it comes to the politics of transportation they defy common sense. So out they go. (I invite comment and corrections as always). Eric Britton PS. Ask me what's better, what gives more sustainable transport bang per buck than a monorail? From: ashok mundkur [mailto:ashok_mundkur@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 January, 2010 07:34 Some data re: Metro Vs Mono rail presented in today's Mumbai edition of Times of India that may be of interest to you ..... in case U haven't seen it... http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Client.asp?Daily=TOIM &showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI&Enter=true&Skin=TOINEW&GZ=T&AW=1264832913 750 Cheers Ashok _____ From: phaizan@gmail.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:58:39 +0530 Please take a look at the forwarded email. The final nail in the coffin of monorail, in maverick Eric Britton style. Faizan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Britton < eric.britton@ecoplan.org> Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:38 PM The only good monorail, is an old monorail (maybe). Schwebebahn Wuppertal since 1901-> Monorails? There is something almost touching about avarice and stupidity when they get together and blatantly hang out there for all to see. I first looked at monorails for city transport of all kinds of types and stripes back in 1970, and on a number of grounds they looked awful then and they still do today. I have my own long list on this, but if you wish we might have some fun starting a collaborative list under the title of something very elegant such as "Why monorails suck". I am amazed that these discussions are still taking place and that there are cities and eventual sponsors that take them seriously. There is a monorail mafia that shows up wherever at the drop of a hat to show their stuff, often offering generous credits and other forms of compensation to see that their job gets done. I haven't made an effort to keep up. But I do remember some recent salvoes in parts of India, also Bogota, S?o Paulo, Curitiba, and a certain number of US cities that just don't know when to let a bad idea go. (Check out the historical stuff on this in the Wikipedia. Pretty good.) What I don't understand is why they are not simply laughed at and set aside for more serous things. But then again, perhaps there is something that I fail to understand. Educate me. Eric Britton PS. Here's a nice exercise for you if you wish to dig a bit. Go to the New Mobility Partnerships at www.newmobility.org and on the top menu click Knoogle (yes, it's an ugly word) and once there pop in "monorail". This will then take you on a lightning survey of more than eight hundred sources, projects and pogroms looking at sustainable and at times unsustainable transport in countries around the world. Interesting. --- On Behalf Of Walter Hook Sent: Friday, 29 January, 2010 00:43 eric, we are developing these parameters for BRT also, and there is also a give back on co2 from construction, though usually its smaller, and if you need to build the elevated BRT (like they are doing in Ahmadabad in places) there is a lot of concrete there also. its not a BRT/mrt thing. i am trying to integrate the evaluation criteria to look at mrt and brt and other options using similar methods. i am in Guangzhou for the opening of the BRT here and one very nice feature is its integration with the metro system, maybe the first time we get nice full integration. the BRT is not on a corridor with mrt in the long term plan, so its additional and not competitive. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:24 PM, < bruun@seas.upenn.edu> wrote: Walter raises an important issue. There is indeed a payback time. But it isn't necessarily 20 years for systems that have frequent service and carry large numbers of people all day. And even when it is 20 years, keep in mind that metros and railways are around for a century or more. The tunnel for the first line in London. the Metropolitan Railway, was opened in 1863 and is still in service today. That is true sustainability. If the point is that BRT avoids this problem, we have been over this before. Points to consider: 1) Sometimes a tunnel is the only way to get both decent capacity and high performance to the places that need it. Once a tunnel is needed anyway, the case for rail strengthens. 2) I heard the presentation at WRI about Ahmedabad two weeks ago where the speaker said "build BRT,study Metro" which got laughs from the audience. I point out that just the opposite also happens. "Build Metro, study BRT" was the case in Delhi. This difference in incubation time must be taken into consideration when evaluating the carbon reduction. How much extra would have been emitted waiting for the go-ahead for the first BRT line? 3) What are the real options on the table? If the choice is between building a Metro and building a highway, I will take the Metro. If the choice is between BRT and Metro, then it needs to be studied closer. I don't automatically pick either one. Eric Bruun --- Quoting Walter Hook < whook@itdp.org>: sudhir from CAI Asia just ran some numbers for metro projects and CO2. If you include all the construction related CO2, they come out negative for a large number of years, and to get positive co2 impact you need to push the project time line out something like 20 years or more. i imagine monorails would not be quite as concrete intensive but may be close. Interesting to note the mention of Lanzhou. w --- On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Eric Britton < eric.britton@ecoplan.org>wrote: Mumbai monorail project looks to reduce CO2 emissions By Lisa Sibley Published 2010-01-27 09:22 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia-based Scomi Group, a global service provider mainly in the oil and gas industry, said today its trial run of India's first monorail car for a project in Mumbai has been a success. The Malaysia-listed company also specializes in urban transit systems, with an emphasis on India, China, the Gulf states, and Brazil. The trial run occurred yesterday, also a national holiday, the Republic Day of India. The monorail is expected to prevent 200 tons of carbon dioxide emissions daily. The proposed structure is also considered environmentally friendly because it won't obstruct sunlight or trap excessive emissions. In addition, it's expected to be quieter than other modes of transportation. Scomi India's Country President Suhaimi Yaacob said in a news release the project's focus is on sustainable mobility, reduced urban congestion, improved reliability, and comfortable travel. Other cities looking to reduce mass transport emissions include China's Lanzhou, which is working on a comprehensive urban development plan linking a new city center with a rapid bus transport system, expected to result in a cleaner, more economical mass transportation system (see China's Lanzhou makes plans to reduce mass transport emissions < http://cleantech.com/news/5429/lanzhou-mass-transport-system> [1]). Scomi's engineering division and partner Larsen & Toubro, India's largest engineering and construction conglomerate, secured $545 million for the Mumbai Monorail Project in November 2008, and are expected to complete the project by 2011. Scomi is tasked with delivering 60 cars, making up 15 sets of four-car trains. Each four-coach monorail is expected to be able to accommodate about 600 passengers, carrying a total of nearly 300,000 daily commuters. The monorail project is expected to have a 20-kilometer (12.4 mile) proposed route between Jacob Circle and Chembur, a suburban neighborhood in eastern Mumbai, with one central depot and about 18 user-friendly stations. Chembur is located about 22 kilometers from downtown Mumbai and considered a transit point for travelers to Pune. From bruun at seas.upenn.edu Mon Feb 1 09:47:05 2010 From: bruun at seas.upenn.edu (bruun at seas.upenn.edu) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:47:05 -0500 Subject: [sustran] CO2 emissions concern stopping infrastructure projects? In-Reply-To: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070444F1@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> References: <806808.73772.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100129160339.93327iaobowzmfwg@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070444F1@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> Message-ID: <20100131194705.21153wunso8j0plc@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> Madhav, et.al. I am quite familiar with the operating area for the Purple Line, It is now a moot point, as the project is going ahead, but I have to say that the enhanced bus option simply doesn't have the same impact on the existing metro network or the same benefits to users as the LRT line will have. We have been waiting for years for local governments to allow bus enhancements. (Yes, the line will probably end up with more tunneling and overhead than it might have, but this is for the same reason that bus enhancements take forever. The car is still king and the wealthy still can fight in courts for years.) I think we are going in the wrong direction if we start obsessing over CO2 from transit investments. The infrastructure will be there for 100 years. How ironic if this concern actually ends up favoring auto users instead.) Let's concentrate on reducing car use and making cars more efficient. If we succeed in densifying along rail and BRT lines this will permanently reduce CO2. If things get built that won't attract choice riders, driving might actually increase. This needs to be taken into account. It is particularly wrong-headed, in my opinion, for developing countries to worry about CO2 from construction. Worry about the quality of life and the time spent commuting for the poor, the air quality, the land conservation because of denser cities, and other benefits. Let the richer countries bear most of the brunt of CO2 reduction. We won't even notice if it is done right. Eric Bruun Quoting Madhav Pai : > EMBARQ/WRI did life cycle CO2 emission analysis for the Purple line > in Washington DC. The link to the work is attached. > > http://www.wri.org/press/2009/01/enhanced-buses-best-option-dc-area-purple-line-wri-finds > > Madhav > > Madhav Pai > > Technical Director - India > > EMBARQ, The WRI Center for Sustainable Transport > Godrel & Boyce Premises > > Gaswork Lane, Lalbaug, > > Parel, Mumbai 400012 > > > > email: mpai@wri.org > > phone: +91 22 24713565 > > fax: +91 22 24713591 > > cell: +91 99875 48808 > website: embarq.wri.org > blog: TheCityFix.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: sustran-discuss-bounces+mpai=wri.org@list.jca.apc.org > [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+mpai=wri.org@list.jca.apc.org] On > Behalf Of bruun@seas.upenn.edu > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:34 AM > To: Morten Lange > Cc: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport > Subject: [sustran] Re: Mumbai monorail project looks to reduce CO2 > emissions??? > > > Hi all' > > There was a recent article by Horvath, et.al. at UC Berkeley that > tries to show the lifecycle consumption including manufacturing of > vehicles, of guideways, etc. > The material is too new to have been critiqued in detail. The > results will no doubt be adjusted over time. > > As for arriving at useful numbers, I think that Kenworthy, Newman, > Laube, et.al's database about energy consumption and travel over > entire regions versus the land density, types of modes, etc. is > perhaps the helpful of all if one is trying to project a long view. > In the end, it is the entire regional results that count,not > particular lines or corridors. Unfortunately, UITP owns this > Millenium Database of over 50 cities and you must purchase it. Bits > and pieces are here and there in various articles. > > Eric > > > > > Quoting Morten Lange : > >> Hi, >> >> This is an interesting discussion. Do you have any pointers to >> articles that detail how one can arrive at such numbers ? >> >> No less interesting and wrought with guestimates would be the number >> brutto number referred to in the subject : "Mumbai monorail project >> looks to reduce CO2 emissions" >> >> I guess one would guestimate how large a proportion of trips with the >> monorail are replacing car, bus or scooter trips, and decide on a >> probable share of different classes of fuel consumption, find a >> weighted average and multiply ? >> >> But this would ignore systemic changes, like possibly cleaner air >> leading to better health and thus less spent on healthcare or lost in >> days from work. Removing that number of cars and buses from traffic >> might open up possibilites for reallocating of roadspace >> from cars to cyclists, pedestrians and buses, giving further wins. >> Or could delay road expansion which would have meant further increases >> in road traffic ( in cars ). >> More transit users will increase mean a growth in the number of >> pedestrians which in turn both improves health and improves safety for >> pedestrians and cyclists. Which in turn can increase cycling and >> walking still further. >> >> Is anyone on the list aware of good articles / books on systems >> thinking (feedback loops, leverage points etc ) in the evaluation of >> car v.s "alternative" transport in cities ? >> >> >> Best Regards, >> Morten >> -- >> Regards / Kve?ja >> Morten Lange, Reykjav?k >> >> >> --- On Fri, 29/1/10, Carlosfelipe Pardo wrote: >> >>> From: Carlosfelipe Pardo >>> Subject: [sustran] Re: Mumbai monorail project looks to reduce CO2 >>> emissions ??? >>> To: "Sudhir" >>> Cc: "Global 'South' Sustainable Transport" >>> >>> Date: Friday, 29 January, 2010, 0:41 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I've heard this as well from the energy >>> expenditure side with some >>> huge numbers. The argument I know is that some systems have >>> very high >>> net energy expenditures during construction which are too >>> high compared >>> to the actual emission reductions during operation (as you >>> also note). >>> But I've actually read it in rail vs roads discussions >>> which was a bit >>> frightening... not sure what to think since numbers for >>> mass transit >>> systems are so often misleading and operating companies >>> never give you >>> the actual numbers on many issues (for instance, when you >>> ask about >>> subsidies, many operating companies state that they >>> don't have >>> subsidies when they are 100% aware of them...). >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Carlos. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sudhir wrote: >>> >>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> >>> >>> Its around 3500 tons/km/year which is average. Important >>> thing is as >>> shown by Mikhail chester - is construction in? it can be >>> 3-28 years of >>> operation emissions ( depends on how you measure it).. >>> >>> >>> >>> regards >>> Sudhir >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 29 January 2010 08:16, >>> Carlosfelipe Pardo >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I >>> don't get it: 200 tons of CO2 reduction per day with >>> 300 thousand >>> >>> commuters? In what timespan? For background, Delhi metro >>> estimated 90 >>> >>> thousand tons reduction between 2004- 2007 ( X pax per >>> day?) , and >>> >>> TransMilenio in Bogot? got 70 thousand tons >>> reduction for 2008 with 1.6 >>> >>> million pax per day. Do the numbers come out right for this >>> Mumbai >>> >>> monorail? I'm not good with numbers but somehow the >>> ones for Mumbai seem >>> >>> a bit high... anyone? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Carlos. >>> >>> >>> >>> - 2008, 70,000 tons >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Eric Britton wrote: >>> >>> > Mumbai monorail project looks to reduce CO2 emissions >>> >>> > >>> >>> > By Lisa Sibley >>> >>> > Published 2010-01-27 09:22 >>> >>> > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia-based Scomi Group, a global >>> service >>> provider mainly >>> >>> > in the oil and gas industry, said today its trial run >>> of India's >>> first >>> >>> > monorail car for a project in Mumbai has been a >>> success. >>> >>> > The Malaysia-listed company also specializes in urban >>> transit >>> systems, with >>> >>> > an emphasis on India, China, the Gulf states, and >>> Brazil. The >>> trial run >>> >>> > occurred yesterday, also a national holiday, the >>> Republic Day of >>> India. >>> >>> > The monorail is expected to prevent 200 tons of carbon >>> dioxide >>> emissions >>> >>> > daily. The proposed structure is also considered >>> environmentally >>> friendly >>> >>> > because it won't obstruct sunlight or trap >>> excessive emissions. In >>> addition, >>> >>> > it's expected to be quieter than other modes of >>> transportation. >>> >>> > Scomi India's Country President Suhaimi Yaacob >>> said in a news >>> release the >>> >>> > project's focus is on sustainable mobility, >>> reduced urban >>> congestion, >>> >>> > improved reliability, and comfortable travel. >>> >>> > Other cities looking to reduce mass transport >>> emissions include >>> China's >>> >>> > Lanzhou, which is working on a comprehensive urban >>> development >>> plan linking >>> >>> > a new city center with a rapid bus transport system, >>> expected to >>> result in a >>> >>> > cleaner, more economical mass transportation system >>> (see China's >>> Lanzhou >>> >>> > makes plans to reduce mass transport emissions >>> >>> > >>> ?[1]). >>> >>> > Scomi's engineering division and partner Larsen >>> & Toubro, >>> India's largest >>> >>> > engineering and construction conglomerate, secured >>> $545 million >>> for the >>> >>> > Mumbai Monorail Project in November 2008, and are >>> expected to >>> complete the >>> >>> > project by 2011. >>> >>> > Scomi is tasked with delivering 60 cars, making up 15 >>> sets of >>> four-car >>> >>> > trains. Each four-coach monorail is expected to be >>> able to >>> accommodate about >>> >>> > 600 passengers, carrying a total of nearly 300,000 >>> daily commuters. >>> >>> > The monorail project is expected to have a >>> 20-kilometer (12.4 >>> mile) proposed >>> >>> > route between Jacob Circle and Chembur, a suburban >>> neighborhood in >>> eastern >>> >>> > Mumbai, with one central depot and about 18 >>> user-friendly >>> stations. 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(the 'Global South'). > > From bruun at seas.upenn.edu Mon Feb 1 09:54:35 2010 From: bruun at seas.upenn.edu (bruun at seas.upenn.edu) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:54:35 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> Message-ID: <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun Quoting Lee Schipper : > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. > > > > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. > > > > Lee > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > countries (the 'Global South'). > > From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 10:09:32 2010 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlosfelipe Pardo) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:09:32 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: Metrocable - Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <4B6629CC.4040504@gmail.com> Interesting point. To provide some context, the Metrocable system in Medell?n must be better explained to everyone: it is not a monorail, it is a telpher system which feeds into the metro, and was built mainly because the slope of the "comunas" (neighborhoods) it serves are extremely steep. The same is being planned as a feeder system to the Metrocali BRT in Cali (Colombia also), in similar areas and specifically because of the same reason (and because they want to get rid of the informal low capacity jeeps that charge very high fares to go up the hills). I am not sure about the demand figures of Metrocable (it's difficult or impossible to get their official data), and Cali has not yet finalised planning of the telpher feeder so I cannot comment on the actual comparison of the bus / jeep routes that serve(d) those areas. I am not sure if the Metrocable has comparable demand of a moderate LRT or a bus route... Mr Brunn, do you have specific data on this to illustrate it? Official website of the Metrocable and some pictures to give everyone a better idea: http://www.metrodemedellin.org.co/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&id_link=165&parent_link=153&Itemid=165?=es Best regards, Carlos. bruun@seas.upenn.edu wrote: > I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. > Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route > or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun > > Quoting Lee Schipper : > > >> Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> >> >> >> They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> >> >> >> Lee >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> countries (the 'Global South'). >> >> >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > From patwardhan.sujit at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 13:00:39 2010 From: patwardhan.sujit at gmail.com (Sujit Patwardhan) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:30:39 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> Eric, >From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be addressed? Google search gave this: http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start=10&sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e -- Sujit On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > > > I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. > Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route > or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun > > Quoting Lee Schipper : > > > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of > > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or > > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but > > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two > > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the > > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in > > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently > > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo > > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because > > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. > > > > > > > > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides > > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people > > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even > > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral > > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for > > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are > > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities > > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less > > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day > > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide > > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to > > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, > > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But > > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses > > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the > > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > > > ================================================================ > > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > > countries (the 'Global South'). > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real > sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ?..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment to destroy the city? Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel Munich 1970 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Sujit Patwardhan patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com sujitjp@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India Tel: +91 20 25537955 Cell: +91 98220 26627 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Parisar: www.parisar.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From schipper at wri.org Mon Feb 1 13:03:02 2010 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:03:02 -0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? Lee Schipper Global Met Studies UC Berkeley Precourt En Eff Center Stanford On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" wrote: > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more > suited to tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't > space for stations, connectivity with the street below and other > associated problems need to be addressed? > Google search gave this: > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start=10&sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > > > I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial > capacity. > Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route > or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun > > Quoting Lee Schipper : > > > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of > > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or > > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, > but > > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two > > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the > > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. > California in > > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently > > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of > Expo > > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere > because > > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. > > > > > > > > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who > rides > > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of > people > > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste > even > > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral > > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for > > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we > are > > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and > cities > > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, > i.e., less > > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million > trips/day > > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can > provide > > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system > has to > > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, > > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. > But > > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses > > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the > > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > > > ================================================================ > > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > > countries (the 'Global South'). > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss > to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > countries (the 'Global South'). > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ?..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city? > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Parisar: www.parisar.org > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Mon Feb 1 20:26:02 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:26:02 +0100 Subject: [sustran] January 2010: This month on World Streets Message-ID: <01a601caa331$5df6f0b0$19e4d210$@britton@ecoplan.org> January 2010: This month on World Streets We very much doubt that most of our readers have the time to check into World Streets on a daily basis. For that reason we have from the beginning offered, in addition to the daily edition, a monthly summary which brings together in one place all postings and comments in a manner in which the busy reader can review the month's offerings in a few lines and make a decision as to whether or not to call up and read the full article. January 2010 was no exception to this rule. * * * Tell us what you think about our monthly editions ? and what you would like to see us do better. Click here to write the editor ? editor@worlddstreets.org. Or Skype to newmobility. * * * From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 21:53:46 2010 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlosfelipe Pardo) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:53:46 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B66CEDA.2060006@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100201/dd8e79d5/attachment.html From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Mon Feb 1 22:17:30 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:17:30 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <4B66CEDA.2060006@gmail.com> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> <4B66CEDA.2060006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <027401caa340$f5ee25a0$e1ca70e0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Dumb question: Why doesn't someone either wander over themselves or send a student or young person with a pencil and paper in hand simply to do a head count of traffic on a given day? Wouldn't that be useful information? Read World Streets Today at http://www.worldstreets.org/ New Mobility Partnerships - http://www.newmobility.org 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France, Europe +331 7550 3788 eric.britton(at)newmobility.org Skype: newmobility From schipper at wri.org Mon Feb 1 23:43:50 2010 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:43:50 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C0704482C@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> >From Ramon.. ________________________________ From: Ramon Munoz-Raskin [mailto:ramon.cmr@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:31 AM To: Lee Schipper Cc: Sujit Patwardhan; bruun@seas.upenn.edu; sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: Re: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? Lee Schipper Global Met Studies UC Berkeley Precourt En Eff Center Stanford On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" wrote: Eric, From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be addressed? Google search gave this: http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start =10&sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e -- Sujit On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, < bruun@seas.upenn.edu> wrote: I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun Quoting Lee Schipper < schipper@wri.org>: > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. > > > > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. > > > > Lee > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > countries (the 'Global South'). > > -------------------------------------------------------- To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss -------------------------------------------------------- If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- "..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment to destroy the city" Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel Munich 1970 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Sujit Patwardhan patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com sujitjp@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India Tel: +91 20 25537955 Cell: +91 98220 26627 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Parisar: www.parisar.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Mon Feb 1 23:58:41 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:58:41 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Message-ID: <031a01caa34f$0cd9baa0$268d2fe0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Thank you Ramon. I hear what you are saying and would like to congratulate all concerned for doing something that is as it should be -- not only a certain form of mobility but also a human and democratic connector for the less fortunate in our cities. Bravo five times over. Eric Britton -----Original Message----- ________________________________ From: Ramon Munoz-Raskin [mailto:ramon.cmr@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:31 AM Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin From bruun at seas.upenn.edu Tue Feb 2 04:29:26 2010 From: bruun at seas.upenn.edu (bruun at seas.upenn.edu) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:29:26 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: Metrocable - Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <4B6629CC.4040504@gmail.com> References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <4B6629CC.4040504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100201142926.15801p0huc8djhdw@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> I heard rideship figures second hand from someone at University College London of about 25,000 persons per day. But I won't swear to it. I will ask him again and report back if I am wrong. Eric Bruun Quoting Carlosfelipe Pardo : > Interesting point. To provide some context, the Metrocable system in > Medell?n must be better explained to everyone: it is not a monorail, > it is a telpher system which feeds into the metro, and was built > mainly because the slope of the "comunas" (neighborhoods) it serves > are extremely steep. The same is being planned as a feeder system to > the Metrocali BRT in Cali (Colombia also), in similar areas and > specifically because of the same reason (and because they want to > get rid of the informal low capacity jeeps that charge very high > fares to go up the hills). > > I am not sure about the demand figures of Metrocable (it's difficult > or impossible to get their official data), and Cali has not yet > finalised planning of the telpher feeder so I cannot comment on the > actual comparison of the bus / jeep routes that serve(d) those > areas. I am not sure if the Metrocable has comparable demand of a > moderate LRT or a bus route... Mr Brunn, do you have specific data > on this to illustrate it? > > Official website of the Metrocable and some pictures to give > everyone a better idea: > http://www.metrodemedellin.org.co/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&id_link=165&parent_link=153&Itemid=165?=es > > > > Best regards, > > Carlos. > > bruun@seas.upenn.edu wrote: >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> >>> Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >>> high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >>> personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >>> as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >>> billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >>> Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >>> the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >>> rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >>> 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >>> these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >>> >>> >>> >>> They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >>> them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >>> around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >>> precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >>> assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >>> ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >>> looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >>> with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >>> than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >>> in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >>> much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >>> climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >>> semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >>> we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >>> cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lee >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >>> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join >>> the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >>> >>> ================================================================ >>> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of >>> people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus >>> on developing countries (the 'Global South'). >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- To search >> the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- If you get >> sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> countries (the 'Global South'). > > From ramon.cmr at gmail.com Mon Feb 1 21:31:11 2010 From: ramon.cmr at gmail.com (Ramon Munoz-Raskin) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:31:11 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: > Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? > > Lee Schipper > Global Met Studies UC Berkeley > Precourt En Eff Center Stanford > > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" > wrote: > > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to > tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, > connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be > addressed? > Google search gave this: > > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start=10&sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> > >> > >> > >> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> > >> > ================================================================ >> > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> > countries (the 'Global South'). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real >> sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ?..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city? > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Parisar: www.parisar.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com From ranjithsd at sltnet.lk Tue Feb 2 12:54:25 2010 From: ranjithsd at sltnet.lk (Ranjith de silva) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:24:25 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: References: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C07044567@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> <20100131195435.484157zg1zn07s5o@webmail.seas.upenn.edu> <8fba064c1001312000g3655cf17h1d170b011cddb6ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401caa3bb$6ab7c240$0201a8c0@user8a856d2dac> There is an old technology which has been further developed by Practical Action Nepal called "Gravity Ropeways". This is a 100% emission free technology using gravity to slide down a trolley on a steel cable with a load of farm produce of poor communities living up in the mountains in rural Nepal. There is a barking system that was developed to control the movements of the two trolleys (Heavier one comes down and the lighter one goes up). In one of the sites, this device has been able to reduce 2 hours of travel time by foot to 3 minutes to transport vegetables/goods. However, this device is used only for goods (freight) transportation but passengers due to safety factors. The wheel that is fixed to the brake system also turns very fast during the short operation of the ropeway/cable way. I think the energy generated by it can also be used as a dynamo to charge a battery (for lighting??) For more information please visit URL: http://practicalaction.org/transport/gravity_ropeways and/or technical brief http://practicalaction.org/transport/docs/region_nepal/gravity_ropeways_nepa l.pdf Thanks. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia & the Pacific International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) C/o. 319/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 (11) 2842972 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Company registered in England and Wales. Company Number: 6835743 Registered Address: 113 Spitfire Studios, 63-71 Collier Street, London. N1 9BE. UK -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Munoz-Raskin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:01 PM To: Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: > Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? > > Lee Schipper > Global Met Studies UC Berkeley > Precourt En Eff Center Stanford > > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" > wrote: > > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to > tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, > connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be > addressed? > Google search gave this: > > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start=10& sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> > >> > >> > >> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> > >> > ================================================================ >> > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> > countries (the 'Global South'). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real >> sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > "..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city" > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > Parisar: www.parisar.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss -------------------------------------------------------- If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From schipper at wri.org Tue Feb 2 12:57:32 2010 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:57:32 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <002401caa3bb$6ab7c240$0201a8c0@user8a856d2dac> Message-ID: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070AD2FE@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> Finally a legal violation of the laws of thermodynamics! Ultimately, however, don't you run out of heavier stuff to send down? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Ranjith de silva [mailto:ranjithsd@sltnet.lk] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:54 PM To: 'Ramon Munoz-Raskin'; Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems There is an old technology which has been further developed by Practical Action Nepal called "Gravity Ropeways". This is a 100% emission free technology using gravity to slide down a trolley on a steel cable with a load of farm produce of poor communities living up in the mountains in rural Nepal. There is a barking system that was developed to control the movements of the two trolleys (Heavier one comes down and the lighter one goes up). In one of the sites, this device has been able to reduce 2 hours of travel time by foot to 3 minutes to transport vegetables/goods. However, this device is used only for goods (freight) transportation but passengers due to safety factors. The wheel that is fixed to the brake system also turns very fast during the short operation of the ropeway/cable way. I think the energy generated by it can also be used as a dynamo to charge a battery (for lighting??) For more information please visit URL: http://practicalaction.org/transport/gravity_ropeways and/or technical brief http://practicalaction.org/transport/docs/region_nepal/gravity_ropeways_ nepa l.pdf Thanks. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia & the Pacific International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) C/o. 319/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 (11) 2842972 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Company registered in England and Wales. Company Number: 6835743 Registered Address: 113 Spitfire Studios, 63-71 Collier Street, London. N1 9BE. UK -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Munoz-Raskin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:01 PM To: Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: > Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? > > Lee Schipper > Global Met Studies UC Berkeley > Precourt En Eff Center Stanford > > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" > wrote: > > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to > tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, > connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be > addressed? > Google search gave this: > > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start =10& sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> > >> > >> > >> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> > >> > ================================================================ >> > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> > countries (the 'Global South'). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real >> sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > "..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city" > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Parisar: www.parisar.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > > -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss -------------------------------------------------------- If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From ranjithsd at sltnet.lk Tue Feb 2 13:06:47 2010 From: ranjithsd at sltnet.lk (Ranjith de silva) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:36:47 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070AD2FE@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> References: <002401caa3bb$6ab7c240$0201a8c0@user8a856d2dac> <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070AD2FE@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> Message-ID: <002801caa3bd$24125c90$0201a8c0@user8a856d2dac> No. They usually send the vegetables that are grown up in the mountain areas and normally only lighter ones go up. In case of sending up an urgent thing (e.g. medicine, urgent message, consumable item etc.) during the off time of vegetable transport, they send down stones in the trolley. However, this is occasional and it doesn't pile up mountains of stones at the bottom station. Ranjith -----Original Message----- From: Lee Schipper [mailto:schipper@wri.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:28 AM To: Ranjith de silva; Ramon Munoz-Raskin Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Finally a legal violation of the laws of thermodynamics! Ultimately, however, don't you run out of heavier stuff to send down? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Ranjith de silva [mailto:ranjithsd@sltnet.lk] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:54 PM To: 'Ramon Munoz-Raskin'; Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems There is an old technology which has been further developed by Practical Action Nepal called "Gravity Ropeways". This is a 100% emission free technology using gravity to slide down a trolley on a steel cable with a load of farm produce of poor communities living up in the mountains in rural Nepal. There is a barking system that was developed to control the movements of the two trolleys (Heavier one comes down and the lighter one goes up). In one of the sites, this device has been able to reduce 2 hours of travel time by foot to 3 minutes to transport vegetables/goods. However, this device is used only for goods (freight) transportation but passengers due to safety factors. The wheel that is fixed to the brake system also turns very fast during the short operation of the ropeway/cable way. I think the energy generated by it can also be used as a dynamo to charge a battery (for lighting??) For more information please visit URL: http://practicalaction.org/transport/gravity_ropeways and/or technical brief http://practicalaction.org/transport/docs/region_nepal/gravity_ropeways_ nepa l.pdf Thanks. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia & the Pacific International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) C/o. 319/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 (11) 2842972 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Company registered in England and Wales. Company Number: 6835743 Registered Address: 113 Spitfire Studios, 63-71 Collier Street, London. N1 9BE. UK -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Munoz-Raskin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:01 PM To: Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: > Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? > > Lee Schipper > Global Met Studies UC Berkeley > Precourt En Eff Center Stanford > > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" > wrote: > > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to > tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, > connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be > addressed? > Google search gave this: > > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start =10& sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> > >> > >> > >> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> > >> > ================================================================ >> > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> > countries (the 'Global South'). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real >> sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > "..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city" > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Parisar: www.parisar.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > > -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss -------------------------------------------------------- If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From schipper at wri.org Tue Feb 2 13:08:58 2010 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:08:58 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems In-Reply-To: <002801caa3bd$24125c90$0201a8c0@user8a856d2dac> Message-ID: <46E2E1971BCEC1459149FBB1A4B4342C070AD30B@wricsex029330.WRI.CRM.Local> So its really a form of solar energy. Water plus plant matter growing on top is sent down, and other things sent up. Brilliant! -----Original Message----- From: Ranjith de silva [mailto:ranjithsd@sltnet.lk] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:07 PM To: Lee Schipper; 'Ramon Munoz-Raskin' Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems No. They usually send the vegetables that are grown up in the mountain areas and normally only lighter ones go up. In case of sending up an urgent thing (e.g. medicine, urgent message, consumable item etc.) during the off time of vegetable transport, they send down stones in the trolley. However, this is occasional and it doesn't pile up mountains of stones at the bottom station. Ranjith -----Original Message----- From: Lee Schipper [mailto:schipper@wri.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:28 AM To: Ranjith de silva; Ramon Munoz-Raskin Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Finally a legal violation of the laws of thermodynamics! Ultimately, however, don't you run out of heavier stuff to send down? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Ranjith de silva [mailto:ranjithsd@sltnet.lk] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:54 PM To: 'Ramon Munoz-Raskin'; Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: RE: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems There is an old technology which has been further developed by Practical Action Nepal called "Gravity Ropeways". This is a 100% emission free technology using gravity to slide down a trolley on a steel cable with a load of farm produce of poor communities living up in the mountains in rural Nepal. There is a barking system that was developed to control the movements of the two trolleys (Heavier one comes down and the lighter one goes up). In one of the sites, this device has been able to reduce 2 hours of travel time by foot to 3 minutes to transport vegetables/goods. However, this device is used only for goods (freight) transportation but passengers due to safety factors. The wheel that is fixed to the brake system also turns very fast during the short operation of the ropeway/cable way. I think the energy generated by it can also be used as a dynamo to charge a battery (for lighting??) For more information please visit URL: http://practicalaction.org/transport/gravity_ropeways and/or technical brief http://practicalaction.org/transport/docs/region_nepal/gravity_ropeways_ nepa l.pdf Thanks. Ranjith Ranjith de Silva Regional Coordinator for Asia & the Pacific International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) C/o. 319/10 Ramanayaka Mawatha Erawwala Pannipitiya 10230 Sri Lanka Phone: +94 (11) 2842972 Email: ranjith@ifrtd.org Web: www.ifrtd.org / www.ruralwaterways.org / www.mobilityandhealth.org The IFRTD is a global network of individuals and organisations working together towards improved access, mobility and economic opportunity for poor communities in developing countries. International Forum for Rural Transport and Development (IFRTD) Company registered in England and Wales. Company Number: 6835743 Registered Address: 113 Spitfire Studios, 63-71 Collier Street, London. N1 9BE. UK -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+ranjithsd=sltnet.lk@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Munoz-Raskin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:01 PM To: Lee Schipper Cc: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Subject: [sustran] Re: monorails and other low capacity systems Briefly: The Medellin aerial cable car is part of an integrated transportation system approach. The system was created to provide accessibility enhancements to deprived communities that had informally developed in geographically constrainted locations (e.g. sides of a steep valley) where higher capacity systems such as large, ferquent pattern bus services would either not fit (narrow curvy streets) or would not be able to climb up there (to steep slopes), among other reasons. In my several visits to Medellin during the last few years I have understood well how this system is succesful there for daily regular commuting of these low-income communities. Capacities are competitive with bus services. Something worth mentioning as well is the "democratization" and urban renovation that is associated with an aerial cable car stop- these areas flourish. Tourism is marginal, but the city is very proud about it and, therefore, it is definitely promoted as a tourist attraction. Ramon Munoz-Raskin On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lee Schipper wrote: > Let me ask someone who really knows Colombia: Ramon? > > Lee Schipper > Global Met Studies UC Berkeley > Precourt En Eff Center Stanford > > > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 20:01, "Sujit Patwardhan" > wrote: > > > > Eric, > From what I can see the Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is more suited to > tourists than regular commuters. For latter, wouldn't space for stations, > connectivity with the street below and other associated problems need to be > addressed? > Google search gave this: > > http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Metro+Cable+in+Medellin,+Columbia&start =10& sa=N&fp=c5b9ba6cbe6cba1e > -- > Sujit > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I want to add that some of the aerial systems have substantial capacity. >> Metro Cable in Medellin, Columbia is equal to a heavy bus route >> or moderate LRT route in the US. Eric Bruun >> >> Quoting Lee Schipper : >> >> > Let me weigh in on Eric Britton's side here. There are all kinds of >> > high-flying ideas, called Pods or personal taxis or rail taxis or >> > personal rapid transit or what-you-have. They are all interesting, but >> > as Eric says their scale is tiny compared to the access needs of two >> > billion people in cities around the world. I remember taking the >> > Monorail from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland in S. California in >> > the 1950s. I rode the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal in 1999 and recently >> > rode the experimental, low-speed Maglev in Nagoya near the site of Expo >> > 2005. There are serious studies underway in Sweden and elsewhere because >> > these things have some merit. But so far that's as far as it goes. >> > >> > >> > >> > They are fine for those who want to build them and don't care who rides >> > them, particularly if they are built to shuttle small numbers of people >> > around fairgrounds, parking lots, etc. But please let's not waste even >> > precious OPM (Other peoples' money, i.e., bilateral or multilateral >> > assistance funds) or our own funds when a huge need for access for >> > ordinary folks goes unmet. For Asian and Latin America cities, we are >> > looking at corridors requiring over 1 million trips per day and cities >> > with 20-30 million trips/day at the beginning of development, i.e., less >> > than 2 trips/day/person. How will Shanghai provide 50 million trips/day >> > in 2020? I don't see any evidence that these small systems can provide >> > much relief except where an aerial tramway or other small system has to >> > climb a hill for a few hundred people/hour. The "nostalgic, >> > semi-underground cog-railway in Istanbul is a good example here. But >> > we have to focus what limited funds we have on moving the masses >> > cleanly, smoothly, reliably, equitably, and above all rapidly. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the >> > real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> > >> > ================================================================ >> > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> > countries (the 'Global South'). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to >> http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real >> sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries >> (the 'Global South'). >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > "..each million we invest into urban motorways is an investment > to destroy the city" > > Mayor Hans Joachim Vogel > Munich 1970 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sujit Patwardhan > patwardhan.sujit@gmail.com > sujitjp@gmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Yamuna, ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007, India > Tel: +91 20 25537955 > Cell: +91 98220 26627 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > Parisar: www.parisar.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- -------- > > -- Ramon Munoz-Raskin, MS, MEng Phone: +1-202-316-8701 ramon.cmr@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss -------------------------------------------------------- If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Wed Feb 3 01:17:46 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:17:46 +0100 Subject: [sustran] [World Streets Editorial] The only good monorail, is an old monorail. Message-ID: <035901caa423$4456a4a0$cd03ede0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Editorial: The only good monorail, is an old monorail. Part I. Building knowledge and consensus via the internet Let me be very clear as to my motives here just so there is no ambiguity on my position. I would like no less than to drive a sharp stake through the dark heart of this egregiously unsustainable transport concept once and for all, so that we can concentrate our limited resources on approaches that are capable of doing the job and meeting the sustainability challenge head on. Which is exactly not the case with monorails. Let's have a look. In the world of transport, sustainable and otherwise, there are some bad ideas that die hard, no matter how absurd. One of the more resistant of these is monorails. Once again we are starting to hear the drum beat of monorails being touted as a "genuine, bona fide, electrified" solution to the problems of transport in our cites. For example just the other day it was announced in the press that Mumbai was about to receive the first prototype vehicle for a new monorail project in fairly advanced planning and testing stages. Oops. Let's see if we can put this one to rest. [This article builds on an excellent series of discussions that you can reference in the excellent Sustran Global South collaborative forum on sustainable transport in the developing countries -- which you can visit at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sustran-discuss It is our intention to follow this up with several more independent commentaries from expert sources.] --> The full text of this article appears in today's World Streets at http://WorldStreets.org/ --> Discussions on New Mobility Forum at www.newmobility.org (Post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com) Read World Streets Today at http://www.worldstreets.org/ New Mobility Partnerships - http://www.newmobility.org 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France, Europe +331 4326 1323 eric.britton(at)newmobility.org Skype: newmobility From alan at ourpeagreenboat.co.uk Wed Feb 3 17:59:01 2010 From: alan at ourpeagreenboat.co.uk (Alan P Howes) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:59:01 +0300 Subject: [sustran] Gross Cost contracting for bus services Message-ID: <000001caa4af$22ae49c0$680add40$@co.uk> I'm doing some work in a Gulf country (not Dubai!). And I am looking for Asia-Pacific examples of Gross Cost and Net Cost contracting regimes for bus services - particularly the former. Does anyone know of any? Paul - I've just been looking at your "Ethos" paper - I'm not sure what subsidy if any the Singapore operators get currently, and how its administered - if there is one. Can you advise? Thanks, Alan -- Alan Howes Associates, Transport Consultant email: alanhowesworld@gmail.com From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Fri Feb 5 16:10:46 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:10:46 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Does sustainable transport need maverick thinking too? Message-ID: <51f001caa633$a8223f00$f866bd00$@britton@ecoplan.org> WORLD STREETS: Insights and contributions from leading thinkers & practitioners around the world Paris, Friday, 05 February, 2010 Dear World Friends and Colleagues, If you have been enjoying the steady flow of articles, tools, op-ed pieces, and lively discussions which have been appearing daily on the pages of World Streets over the last eleven months, I would like to ask you to take ten minutes of your valuable time this morning to have a close look at today's lead article, which sets out our strategy for continuing publication. This is a critical moment for us and we need our allies and their counsel and support. (Click here to go to article.) Our goal from the beginning of this great adventure in the closing months of 2008 has been to make sure that an independent, informed, principled, always readable and at times maverick voice for sustainability is widely and freely available to all. Indeed more than a hundred of you have recently written in to state publicly that we are succeeding in this quite admirably. That is very satisfying. But now we face a real moment of truth, and I am hoping that you will take the time to have a good look at today's featured piece and share with us your reactions, best thoughts and leads. Our main challenge at this point is to find ways to link and collaborate more creatively with the leading national and international organizations working in the field, the innovating cities, operators, entrepreneurs, universities, suppliers and other people, groups and institutions who share our common objectives. All this is set out in today's lead article. The struggle for sustainable transportation, sustainable cities, and sustainable lives is an uphill battle, and we are going to win it and change things only to the extent to which we decide to do it together. For now, those of us who care deeply about these matters are still very much in a minority position trying to bring change what is still in many ways an all-but dysfunctional "old mobility" culture ("problem solving" through more cars, more roads, higher speeds and all that goes with it). But we are rapidly moving up our learning curve and we need at this point to start to unite our voices and energies to establish a common agenda, and in this way to become a real force in policy and investment decisions. It is my sincere belief that World Streets has a role to play in this process. So please have a look and if you have any ideas let us hear from you. E. editor@worldstreets.org . T. +331 7550 3788 . Skype newmobility. We answer the phone. With all good wishes, Eric Britton PS. If you have questions here is a quick click-list of some of the keystones that you may wish to check out. But above all Exhibit A is World Streets itself. 1. Four page/four minute summary - http://tinyurl.com/ws-sum 2. Plan A for Sustainable Transport - http://tinyurl.com/ws-planA 3. Note entitled "The Next Ten Years" -- http://tinyurl.com/ws-next10years 4. Summary presentation of World Streets January articles - http://tinyurl.com/ws-jan2010 5. Reader comments on usefulness of World Streets - http://tinyurl.com/ws-101 World Streets . www.worldstreets.org New Mobility Agenda . www.newmobility.org 8/10, rue Jospeh Bara . Paris 75006 France Tel. +331 7550 3788 . Skype newmobility eric.britton@newmobility.org or fekbritton@gmail.org - New thinking & world-wide collaborative problem-solving . . . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100205/9c1cf221/attachment.jpe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 510 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100205/9c1cf221/attachment-0001.jpe From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Fri Feb 5 16:10:47 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:10:47 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Does sustainable transport need maverick thinking too? Message-ID: <53b201caa634$18723ad0$4956b070$@britton@ecoplan.org> WORLD STREETS: Insights and contributions from leading thinkers & practitioners around the world Paris, Friday, 05 February, 2010 Dear World Friends and Colleagues, If you have been enjoying the steady flow of articles, tools, op-ed pieces, and lively discussions which have been appearing daily on the pages of World Streets over the last eleven months, I would like to ask you to take ten minutes of your valuable time this morning to have a close look at today's lead article, which sets out our strategy for continuing publication. This is a critical moment for us and we need our allies and their counsel and support. (Click here to go to article.) Our goal from the beginning of this great adventure in the closing months of 2008 has been to make sure that an independent, informed, principled, always readable and at times maverick voice for sustainability is widely and freely available to all. Indeed more than a hundred of you have recently written in to state publicly that we are succeeding in this quite admirably. That is very satisfying. But now we face a real moment of truth, and I am hoping that you will take the time to have a good look at today's featured piece and share with us your reactions, best thoughts and leads. Our main challenge at this point is to find ways to link and collaborate more creatively with the leading national and international organizations working in the field, the innovating cities, operators, entrepreneurs, universities, suppliers and other people, groups and institutions who share our common objectives. All this is set out in today's lead article. The struggle for sustainable transportation, sustainable cities, and sustainable lives is an uphill battle, and we are going to win it and change things only to the extent to which we decide to do it together. For now, those of us who care deeply about these matters are still very much in a minority position trying to bring change what is still in many ways an all-but dysfunctional "old mobility" culture ("problem solving" through more cars, more roads, higher speeds and all that goes with it). But we are rapidly moving up our learning curve and we need at this point to start to unite our voices and energies to establish a common agenda, and in this way to become a real force in policy and investment decisions. It is my sincere belief that World Streets has a role to play in this process. So please have a look and if you have any ideas let us hear from you. E. editor@worldstreets.org . T. +331 7550 3788 . Skype newmobility. We answer the phone. With all good wishes, Eric Britton PS. If you have questions here is a quick click-list of some of the keystones that you may wish to check out. But above all Exhibit A is World Streets itself. 1. Four page/four minute summary - http://tinyurl.com/ws-sum 2. Plan A for Sustainable Transport - http://tinyurl.com/ws-planA 3. Note entitled "The Next Ten Years" -- http://tinyurl.com/ws-next10years 4. Summary presentation of World Streets January articles - http://tinyurl.com/ws-jan2010 5. Reader comments on usefulness of World Streets - http://tinyurl.com/ws-101 World Streets . www.worldstreets.org New Mobility Agenda . www.newmobility.org 8/10, rue Jospeh Bara . Paris 75006 France Tel. +331 7550 3788 . Skype newmobility eric.britton@newmobility.org or fekbritton@gmail.org - New thinking & world-wide collaborative problem-solving . . . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100205/c393c0af/attachment.jpe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 510 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100205/c393c0af/attachment-0001.jpe From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Sun Feb 7 22:31:36 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:31:36 +0100 Subject: [sustran] =?iso-8859-1?Q?_The_tenth_=22Dia_sin_carro=22__=28Car_F?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ree_Day=29_in_Bogot=E1?= Message-ID: <01b401caa7f9$e1d2e2f0$a578a8d0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Last Thursday was?D?a sin carro? (Car Free Day) in Bogot?. A really big day, the tenth anniversary of the original which I had the honor to work on in close collaboration with the then mayor, Enrique Penalosa and his assistant Oscar Edmundo Diaz. Planning it was a huge challenge, and making it actually work an even larger one. And if I feel somewhat ambivalent about all the Car Free Days out there that are not able to make a dent in the transport policy and habits of their cities ? that being the original idea ? there are a much smaller number of them that really do manage to pass this acid text. And of course Bogot? right up at the top of the lot. I was in a way sad not to be there for this important anniversary, but it would have been a long way to go (and lots of CO2 ) just to watch a huge number of cars no moving for those hours. Still, I wrote a note to my collaborators on it, and one wrote back inviting me to have a look at an article by Dr. Fabio Ar?valo Rosero a very active and ingenious soft transport innovator (and medical doctor - he worries about obesity, respiratory infections, and injuries as a result of traffic, hence his interest)), which appeared in a Colombia weekly Semana at http://comunidades.semana.com/noticias/tutores-del-dia-carro/4116.aspx which I copy below along with a quick machine translation that follows. Thanks very much Fabio. A very nice present from Colombia on this cold wet morning in Paris. (PS. And for those of you who do not know it, teams of doctors and medical personal from Colombia arrived in Haiti very quickly after the disaster and are still there working under very tough conditions.) If you ever want to see what the original idea was back in 1994 ? the title was "Thursday: A Breakthrough Strategy for Reducing Car Dependence in Cities"-- you can find the original paper referred to in the article (in English) at www.thursday.worldcarfreedays.com . Not so bad and here it is 16 years later and still going strong. Eric Britton - - - Los tutores del "D?a sin carro" Autor: Fabio Ar?valo Rosero MD http://comunidades.semana.com/Comunidades/20100204/Cliente_125023/Noticias/G randeimages%5b3%5d.jpg Eric Britton, el "Pap?" del D?a sin carro en el mundo Si el 80 por ciento de los bogotanos pueden vivir sin auto propio todo el a?o, ?por qu? ese 20 por ciento, o quiz? menos, no pueden prescindir de esa comodidad si quiera por un d?a? Lo que menos puede significar esta jornada es solidaridad, democracia, integraci?n, etc. Una propuesta innovadora que se le debe originalmente al se?or Francis Eric Britton. El Carfree Day o ?D?a sin carro? DSC, nace en la Conferencia Ciudades Accesibles realizada en Toledo el a?o 1994 gracias a la idea y presentaci?n del activista franco-norteamericano Eric Britton. Originalmente el DSC estaba pensado para ser implementado en una ciudad, en un barrio o para ser organizado por cualquier grupo de personas. Sin embargo, luego del a?o 2000 cuando la Comunidad Europea se suma a la iniciativa, la propuesta se convierte en un llamado planetario a realizar un d?a libre de autom?viles por acuerdo de todos los habitantes de las distintas ciudades adherentes. Hoy la ciudad con la mejor experiencia en el mundo es Bogot?. Una iniciativa que naci? hace 10 a?os con Enrique Pe?alosa, quien para ello invit? a Colombia al ?padre? del DSC, Eric Britton. As? qued? instaurado de manera obligatoria, por norma y acto democr?tico, el primer jueves de Febrero. Hoy se celebra la jornada n?mero 11 como una manera de imaginar una ciudad sin autom?viles, o al menos motivar su empleo racional. El DSC es una acci?n colectiva y concertada entre ciudadanos y autoridades para hacer un gran experimento. Es la oportunidad de probar nuevas formas de movilizarnos, de buscar maneras m?s sustentables de resolver nuestros viajes diarios, de difundir masivamente las externalidades negativas del uso indiscriminado del autom?vil, de relacionar calentamiento global, contaminaci?n ac?stica y deterioro del aire con el incremento del parque automotriz. Es un espacio para invitar a combatir la epidemia del sedentarismo y la obesidad con el uso del transporte activo, de comenzar a comprender la integraci?n de la bicicleta y de la tracci?n humana como imperativos ?ticos de equidad, democracia, ampliaci?n del acceso de todos a los bienes de la ciudad. Es una intervenci?n en la salud p?blica para reflexionar sobre los males de la mecanizaci?n excesiva y una invitaci?n a explorar mejores posibilidades de salud mental y social. Britton es uno de los expertos internacionales m?s reconocidos en el campo de las pol?ticas urbanas, con una gran experiencia tanto en el campo econ?mico y empresarial como en el de las administraciones p?blicas. Es uno de los miembros fundadores de EcoPlan, prestigioso organismo internacional de consultor?a, con sede en Par?s, que desde 1966 lleva ayudando a la toma de decisiones estrat?gicas a gobiernos e instituciones de medio mundo. Como consultor internacional, Eric Britton ha servido como consejero a m?s de treinta agencias nacionales a trav?s de los contactos mantenidos con la OCDE y la Comisi?n Europea. Ha realizado cientos de documentos y ha publicado m?s de doscientos art?culos, informes y libros, algunos de importancia capital en el campo del transporte. Eric Britton fue, precisamente, miembro del consejo de redacci?n del informe World Ttransport Policy & Practice, referencia obligada sobre la pol?tica y la pr?ctica del transporte en el mundo. En Junio del 2000 Eric Britton, junto a Enrique Pe?alosa, recibi? el prestigioso premio "Stockholm Prize" por su trabajo para reestructurar el sistema de transporte de la ciudad de Bogot? conforme a intereses sostenibles y de justicia social. Si Britton gest? la iniciativa DSC en Toledo hace 16 a?os, Enrique Pe?alosa la acogi? y la moderniz?. Hoy Bogot? es el referente para el mundo. Google machine translate ? untouched by human hands The Guardians of the Car Free Day Eric Britton, "Papa" of the World Car Free Day If 80 percent of Bogot? itself can live without a car all year, why this 20 percent, or even less, can not do without this comfort if you want for a day? What this may mean less time is solidarity, democracy, integration, etc.. An innovative proposal that was originally owed to Mr Francis Eric Britton. The Carfree Day or "Day without a car" CFD, was born in the Accessible Cities Conference held in Toledo in 1994 thanks to the idea and presentation of the Franco-American activist Eric Britton. CFD was originally intended to be implemented in a city, in a neighborhood or to be organized by any group of people. However, after 2000 when the European Community endorsed the initiative, the proposal becomes a global call to make a car-free day by agreement of all the inhabitants of various cities adherents. Today the city with the best experience in the world is Bogota. An initiative that was born 10 years ago with Enrique Penalosa, who called on Colombia to do the "father" of the CFD, Eric Britton. This was introduced on a compulsory basis for democratic rule and act, on the first Thursday of February. Today is the day number 11 as a way to imagine a city without cars, or at least encourage its rational use. The DSC is a collective and concerted action between citizens and authorities to make a great experiment. It is an opportunity to try new ways to mobilize them to seek more sustainable ways to solve our daily trips to spread the negative externalities of mass indiscriminate use of cars, to link global warming, noise pollution and deterioration of air with increased car park . It is an inviting space to combat the epidemic of inactivity and obesity with the use of active transport to begin to understand the integration of cycling and the human drive as ethical imperatives of equity, democracy, expanding access for all to property of the city. It is a public health intervention to reflect on the evils of excessive mechanization and an invitation to explore a better chance of social and mental health. Britton is one of the most recognized international experts in the field of urban policies, with extensive experience in both the economic and business field as in the general government. It is one of the founding members of EcoPlan, a prestigious international consulting agency, based in Paris, which since 1966 has been helping to make strategic decisions for governments and institutions of half the world. As an international consultant, Eric Britton has served as advisor to over thirty national agencies through contacts with the OECD and the European Commission. He has made hundreds of documents and has published over two hundred articles, reports, books, some of importance in the field of transportation. Eric Britton was, precisely, a member of the editorial board of the World Transport Policy & Practice a benchmark policy and practice of transport in the world. In June 2000 Eric Britton, along with Enrique Penalosa, received the prestigious Stockholm Prize "for his work to restructure the transport system of Bogot? under sustainable interests and social justice". If Britton gestated in Toledo CFD initiative 16 years ago, Enrique Penalosa welcomed it and put it to work. Today Bogot? provides the benchmark for the world. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 3788 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100207/3780afa4/attachment.jpe From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Tue Feb 9 22:46:49 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:46:49 +0100 Subject: [sustran] World Streets Annual New Mobility Country Reviews: Car-Sharing in Greece Message-ID: <029001caa98e$5bb74cb0$1325e610$@britton@ecoplan.org> CarSharing, like Rome, is not built in a day. At least formal CarSharing as we are seeing it develop in many countries now at, in places, rapid and highly satisfying rate. Here you have a submittal as part of this year's W/S 2010 country reports on carsharing from colleagues who are involved in an attempted laying the groundwork for the first formal carsharing project in Greece, today in the early planning stages in Athens. This is one of the EU " momo Car-Sharing" projects to encourage carshare development throughout Europe. We invite you to have a look and to share your thoughts and comments with the authors or with our readers more generally. Car-Sharing in Greece - E. Tritopoulou and M. Zarkadoula. CRES. Department of Environment and Transport. --> The full text of this article appears in today's World Streets at http://WorldStreets.org/ --> Discussions on World Carshare Consortium forum at www.worldcarshare.com (Post to WorldCarShare@yahoogroups.com) Read World Streets Today at http://www.worldstreets.org/ New Mobility Partnerships - http://www.newmobility.org 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France, Europe +331 4326 1323 eric.britton(at)newmobility.org Skype: newmobility From cpardo at itdp.org Wed Feb 10 01:13:41 2010 From: cpardo at itdp.org (Carlos Felipe Pardo) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:13:41 -0500 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_The_tenth_=22Dia_sin_carro=22__?= =?windows-1252?Q?=28Car_Free_Day=29_in_Bogot=E1?= In-Reply-To: <01b401caa7f9$e1d2e2f0$a578a8d0$@britton@ecoplan.org> References: <01b401caa7f9$e1d2e2f0$a578a8d0$@britton@ecoplan.org> Message-ID: <4B7189B5.9090507@itdp.org> Hi Eric, Thanks for forwarding Fabio's article, it is very useful in terms of its recognition of your contributions and Pe?alosa's to Carfree day in Bogot? (they should have mentioned Oscar D?az more prominently, since he was the actual hands-on guy during the planning and implementation of the first carfree day!). Regarding the 10th "anniversary" of the CFD in Bogot?, it was a pity that the municipality had very few activities organized for that day. They only did 2 (somehwat related) things which were a public signing of a document that stipulates that Diesel will now be 50 ppm and the inauguration of a "hotline" to call if you see a "chimney bus" (a bus that is spewing black fumes). From our side (citizens, civil organizations), we organized a series of bicycle rides and wrote article in the newspapers, and appeared in TV promoting the concept of CFD. We reiterated that the CFD is not just a decree that must be followed, but an experience that should be taken as an example for the rest of the year, in which people should conclude that they can actually ride a bike or bus (or walk!) to work or study without the need of a car. We had lots of coverage, but the day would have gone much better if the municipality would have contributed (they explicitly told us they were not interested in doing anything "big"), and if citizens would not be so in love with their cars. Best regards, Carlosfelipe Pardo Country Director, Colombia Institute for Transportation & Development Policy (ITDP) Regional Office Carrera 7 N? 79B-15, Oficina 404 Bogot?, DC, COLOMBIA Tels: +57 (1) 211-0654 / 235-4240 - Fax: +57 (1) 211-0654 Cel 320 837 5858 Headquarters 127 W. 26th St. Suite 1002 New York, NY 10001, USA Tel +1 (212) 629-8001 - Fax +1 (212) 629-8334 URL: www.itdp.org - cpardo@itdp.org E-mail 2: carlosfpardo@gmail.com Promoting environmentally sustainable and equitable transportation worldwide *consider the environment: please think* Eric Britton wrote: > Last Thursday was?D?a sin carro? (Car Free Day) in Bogot?. A really big > day, the tenth anniversary of the original which I had the honor to work on > in close collaboration with the then mayor, Enrique Penalosa and his > assistant Oscar Edmundo Diaz. Planning it was a huge challenge, and making > it actually work an even larger one. And if I feel somewhat ambivalent about > all the Car Free Days out there that are not able to make a dent in the > transport policy and habits of their cities ? that being the original idea ? > there are a much smaller number of them that really do manage to pass this > acid text. And of course Bogot? right up at the top of the lot. > > > > I was in a way sad not to be there for this important anniversary, but it > would have been a long way to go (and lots of CO2 ) just to watch a huge > number of cars no moving for those hours. Still, I wrote a note to my > collaborators on it, and one wrote back inviting me to have a look at an > article by Dr. Fabio Ar?valo Rosero a very active and ingenious soft > transport innovator (and medical doctor - he worries about obesity, > respiratory infections, and injuries as a result of traffic, hence his > interest)), which appeared in a Colombia weekly Semana at > http://comunidades.semana.com/noticias/tutores-del-dia-carro/4116.aspx which > I copy below along with a quick machine translation that follows. > > > > Thanks very much Fabio. A very nice present from Colombia on this cold wet > morning in Paris. (PS. And for those of you who do not know it, teams of > doctors and medical personal from Colombia arrived in Haiti very quickly > after the disaster and are still there working under very tough conditions.) > > > > If you ever want to see what the original idea was back in 1994 ? the title > was "Thursday: A Breakthrough Strategy for Reducing Car Dependence in > Cities"-- you can find the original paper referred to in the article (in > English) at www.thursday.worldcarfreedays.com . Not so bad and here it is 16 > years later and still going strong. > > > > Eric Britton > > - - - > > Los tutores del "D?a sin carro" > > Autor: Fabio Ar?valo Rosero MD > > > > > > http://comunidades.semana.com/Comunidades/20100204/Cliente_125023/Noticias/G > randeimages%5b3%5d.jpg Eric Britton, el "Pap?" del > D?a sin carro en el mundo > > Si el 80 por ciento de los bogotanos pueden vivir sin auto propio todo el > a?o, ?por qu? ese 20 por ciento, o quiz? menos, no pueden prescindir de esa > comodidad si quiera por un d?a? Lo que menos puede significar esta jornada > es solidaridad, democracia, integraci?n, etc. Una propuesta innovadora que > se le debe originalmente al se?or Francis Eric Britton. > > El Carfree Day o ?D?a sin carro? DSC, nace en la Conferencia Ciudades > Accesibles realizada en Toledo el a?o 1994 gracias a la idea y presentaci?n > del activista franco-norteamericano Eric Britton. Originalmente el DSC > estaba pensado para ser implementado en una ciudad, en un barrio o para ser > organizado por cualquier grupo de personas. Sin embargo, luego del a?o 2000 > cuando la Comunidad Europea se suma a la iniciativa, la propuesta se > convierte en un llamado planetario a realizar un d?a libre de autom?viles > por acuerdo de todos los habitantes de las distintas ciudades adherentes. > > Hoy la ciudad con la mejor experiencia en el mundo es Bogot?. Una iniciativa > que naci? hace 10 a?os con Enrique Pe?alosa, quien para ello invit? a > Colombia al ?padre? del DSC, Eric Britton. As? qued? instaurado de manera > obligatoria, por norma y acto democr?tico, el primer jueves de Febrero. Hoy > se celebra la jornada n?mero 11 como una manera de imaginar una ciudad sin > autom?viles, o al menos motivar su empleo racional. > > El DSC es una acci?n colectiva y concertada entre ciudadanos y autoridades > para hacer un gran experimento. Es la oportunidad de probar nuevas formas de > movilizarnos, de buscar maneras m?s sustentables de resolver nuestros viajes > diarios, de difundir masivamente las externalidades negativas del uso > indiscriminado del autom?vil, de relacionar calentamiento global, > contaminaci?n ac?stica y deterioro del aire con el incremento del parque > automotriz. > > Es un espacio para invitar a combatir la epidemia del sedentarismo y la > obesidad con el uso del transporte activo, de comenzar a comprender la > integraci?n de la bicicleta y de la tracci?n humana como imperativos ?ticos > de equidad, democracia, ampliaci?n del acceso de todos a los bienes de la > ciudad. Es una intervenci?n en la salud p?blica para reflexionar sobre los > males de la mecanizaci?n excesiva y una invitaci?n a explorar mejores > posibilidades de salud mental y social. > > Britton es uno de los expertos internacionales m?s reconocidos en el campo > de las pol?ticas urbanas, con una gran experiencia tanto en el campo > econ?mico y empresarial como en el de las administraciones p?blicas. Es uno > de los miembros fundadores de EcoPlan, prestigioso organismo internacional > de consultor?a, con sede en Par?s, que desde 1966 lleva ayudando a la toma > de decisiones estrat?gicas a gobiernos e instituciones de medio mundo. > > Como consultor internacional, Eric Britton ha servido como consejero a m?s > de treinta agencias nacionales a trav?s de los contactos mantenidos con la > OCDE y la Comisi?n Europea. Ha realizado cientos de documentos y ha > publicado m?s de doscientos art?culos, informes y libros, algunos de > importancia capital en el campo del transporte. Eric Britton fue, > precisamente, miembro del consejo de redacci?n del informe World Ttransport > Policy & Practice, referencia obligada sobre la pol?tica y la pr?ctica del > transporte en el mundo. > > En Junio del 2000 Eric Britton, junto a Enrique Pe?alosa, recibi? el > prestigioso premio "Stockholm Prize" por su trabajo para reestructurar el > sistema de transporte de la ciudad de Bogot? conforme a intereses > sostenibles y de justicia social. Si Britton gest? la iniciativa DSC en > Toledo hace 16 a?os, Enrique Pe?alosa la acogi? y la moderniz?. Hoy Bogot? > es el referente para el mundo. > > > > > > > > Google machine translate ? untouched by human hands > > > > The Guardians of the Car Free Day > > > > Eric Britton, "Papa" of the World Car Free Day > > > > If 80 percent of Bogot? itself can live without a car all year, why this 20 > percent, or even less, can not do without this comfort if you want for a > day? What this may mean less time is solidarity, democracy, integration, > etc.. An innovative proposal that was originally owed to Mr Francis Eric > Britton. > > > The Carfree Day or "Day without a car" CFD, was born in the Accessible > Cities Conference held in Toledo in 1994 thanks to the idea and presentation > of the Franco-American activist Eric Britton. CFD was originally intended to > be implemented in a city, in a neighborhood or to be organized by any group > of people. > > However, after 2000 when the European Community endorsed the initiative, the > proposal becomes a global call to make a car-free day by agreement of all > the inhabitants of various cities adherents. > > > Today the city with the best experience in the world is Bogota. An > initiative that was born 10 years ago with Enrique Penalosa, who called on > Colombia to do the "father" of the CFD, Eric Britton. This was introduced on > a compulsory basis for democratic rule and act, on the first Thursday of > February. Today is the day number 11 as a way to imagine a city without > cars, or at least encourage its rational use. > > > The DSC is a collective and concerted action between citizens and > authorities to make a great experiment. It is an opportunity to try new ways > to mobilize them to seek more sustainable ways to solve our daily trips to > spread the negative externalities of mass indiscriminate use of cars, to > link global warming, noise pollution and deterioration of air with increased > car park . > > > It is an inviting space to combat the epidemic of inactivity and obesity > with the use of active transport to begin to understand the integration of > cycling and the human drive as ethical imperatives of equity, democracy, > expanding access for all to property of the city. It is a public health > intervention to reflect on the evils of excessive mechanization and an > invitation to explore a better chance of social and mental health. > > > Britton is one of the most recognized international experts in the field of > urban policies, with extensive experience in both the economic and business > field as in the general government. It is one of the founding members of > EcoPlan, a prestigious international consulting agency, based in Paris, > which since 1966 has been helping to make strategic decisions for > governments and institutions of half the world. > > > As an international consultant, Eric Britton has served as advisor to over > thirty national agencies through contacts with the OECD and the European > Commission. He has made hundreds of documents and has published over two > hundred articles, reports, books, some of importance in the field of > transportation. Eric Britton was, precisely, a member of the editorial board > of the World Transport Policy & Practice a benchmark policy and practice of > transport in the world. > > > In June 2000 Eric Britton, along with Enrique Penalosa, received the > prestigious Stockholm Prize "for his work to restructure the transport > system of Bogot? under sustainable interests and social justice". If Britton > gestated in Toledo CFD initiative 16 years ago, Enrique Penalosa welcomed it > and put it to work. Today Bogot? provides the benchmark for the world. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From ashok.sreenivas at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 12:43:16 2010 From: ashok.sreenivas at gmail.com (Ashok Sreenivas) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:13:16 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Cycle rickshaws need of the hour, ban arbitrary: Court Message-ID: <4B737CD4.3060706@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20100211/c8ce3ac0/attachment.html From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Thu Feb 11 21:01:37 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:01:37 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Editorial: A Six Thousand Kilometer Non-CO2 Conference
... Message-ID: <018701caab11$ff634510$fe29cf30$@britton@ecoplan.org> Editorial: A Six Thousand Kilometer Non-CO2 Conference A recent discussion has come up in the context of our 2010 work program concerning your editor's long-standing unwillingness to hop on a plane, travel great distances to make a "cameo appearance", and then scurry back to his burrow in Paris. Since 1995 we have tried hard to maintain a consistent policy about this kind of travel, which you can find at http://www.personal.newmobility.org/. However this does not mean that it is not possible to have some form of "hot" presentation and interaction on topics of high mutual interest without that dreaded trip to the airport. With a bit of preparation and at low cost, you can do an excellent job at creating a lively and engaging interactive low-carbon environment. Let's have look. --> The full text of this article appears in today's World Streets at http://WorldStreets.org/ --> Discussions on New Mobility Forum at www.newmobility.org (Post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com) Read World Streets Today at http://www.worldstreets.org/ New Mobility Partnerships - http://www.newmobility.org 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France, Europe +331 4326 1323 eric.britton(at)newmobility.org Skype: newmobility From ranjit.gadgil.1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 13 04:10:08 2010 From: ranjit.gadgil.1 at gmail.com (Ranjit Gadgil) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:40:08 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Re: [pttfgen:2819] Cycle rickshaws need of the hour, ban arbitrary: Court In-Reply-To: <4B737CD4.3060706@gmail.com> References: <4B737CD4.3060706@gmail.com> Message-ID: However the media is behaving like one! The Times of India has subtly twisted the story to make it sound as if this was a poor decision. Megha Suri has been doing this quite consistently. She quotes dubious "experts" and puts the blame on traffic on cycle rikshaws! Deflated cops brace for chaos The high court may have given rickshaw-pullers a reason to rejoice but an already stretched traffic police is keeping its fingers crossed *The HC decision to remove cap on the number of rickshaws in the city has evoked strong reaction from traffic experts and police. They say that the slow mode of transport will only add to chaos and more mishaps on roads* *Megha Suri Singh | TNN* Even as Delhi High Court ruled that there wont be any upper cap on the number of cycle rickshaws in the city and banned confiscation and crushing of the rickshaws, traffic experts said that allowing rickshaws to mushroom will only lead to absolute chaos on city roads. The traffic police, too, have for long held the view that cycle rickshaws need to be banned on arterial roads as they cause congestion and accidents. Experts feel that rickshaws move at slow speed on main roads and rickshaw-pullers are unaware of the traffic laws of the road. In a city where over 30 modes of transport co-exist , slow moving vehicles especially cycle rickshaws are one of the major causes of congestion. At present, rickshaws are banned on arterial roads. But this would change after Wednesdays order. Cycle rickshaws are one of the major causes of congestion on Delhi roads. They should not be allowed on main roads, and not at all on express highways as they are vulnerable to accidents and slow down traffic, said Rohit Baluja, traffic expert and President , Institute of Road Traffic Education (IRTE). The traffic police have held the view that rickshaws are fine for short-distance , local trips. The cops feel that with limited manpower, and no powers to confiscate or crush a rickshaw, prosecution will be badly hit and there could be chaos . When asked about implications of the order, senior officers refused to comment. We can comment after seeing the order, said a senior traffic police officer. The long-term solution, the government feels, is creation of dedicated tracks for cycles and cycle rickshaws along all major roads. Delhi chief secretary Rakesh Mehta said: With issues like climate change looming large, I dont think we can look at non-motorised vehicles (NMVs) like cycle rickshaws as elements which can be removed from Delhis integrated transport network. The police needs to support NMV lanes even along highspeed corridors. megha.suri@timesgroup .com On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Ashok Sreenivas wrote: > Sometimes, the law is not an ass! > > > http://blog.taragana.com/law/2010/02/10/cycle-rickshaws-need-of-the-hour-ban-arbitrary-court-20114/ > > The Delhi High *Court* Wednesday termed the ban on cycle rickshaws on the > city?s arterial roads ?arbitrary? and stressed that non-motorised vehicles > were the need of the hour in the wake of rising pollution and global > warming. > > A division bench comprising Chief Justice Ajit Prakash Shah, Justice S. > Muralidhar and Justice Ravinder Bhatt said: Planet earth seems to be > running out of options unless unorthodox and sometimes unpopular policies > are pursued. Whatever be the nuances about the technical soundness of the > exact extent of global warming , the signs are self evident - erratic > weather patterns, drying rivers and a depleting water table, food > insecurity, retreating glaciers, drastically reducing forest cover. > > Turning down the traffic police?s submission that cycle rickshaw pullers > create a nuisance on the roads, the court said: It would be important for > public authorities, particularly law enforcement agencies, to display > sensitivity when exercising the coercive powers under various statutes to > the vulnerable situation in which the underprivileged populations, of which > the rickshaw pullers form an integral part, are placed. > > This is a fit case where authorities should explore all options to reduce > road congestion and consider all proposals from an overall or holistic > perspective, the bench said while forming a committee to explore the options > available. > > Our country is vast with an ever-growing population, alarming numbers of > whom continue to swell the list of the unemployed. In these circumstances, > any opportunity towards gainful employment, howsoever slight, is worth > exploring - it may be part-time employment or full-time, it may be seasonal > or regional. If these are recognised as legitimate, the conclusion that > cyclerickshaw plying is offensive to human dignity cannot be understood at > all, the bench remarked. > > Terming that every person has the right to earn their living, the court > said:Prohibiting a class of impoverished persons altogether of the chance of > livelihood in a category of non-dangerous commercial activity, i.e. hiring > cycle rickshaws for plying cannot be supported as a reasonable restriction. > > Quashing the Municipal Corporation of Delhis (MCD) policy of ?owner should > be plier?, the *court* said: The owner-plier policy, even though valid 22 > years ago, cannot be regarded as non-discriminatory and valid now. It is > arbitrary. > > The court was hearing a petition by NGO Manushi and Initiative for > Transportation & Development Programmes that the court?s order and the MCD?s > policy of banning rickshaws from arterial roads and Chandni Chowk area in > Old Delhi was arbitrary and violated the fundamental rights ofrickshaw > pullers. > > The petition also criticised the ceiling imposed on the number of licences > granted to rickshaw pullers in the city. > > The bench prohibited the MCD from confiscating and crushing cycle rickshaws > without licence, terming the action unjustified. > > Stressing the need for non-motorised mode of transport, the court said: The > figures of registered motor vehicles are in excess of 60 lakh? As far as > private commercial vehicles catering to the public are concerned, there are > 76,090 auto rickshaws and 30,809 taxis on the road. Thus, there is a felt > need for non-motorized road transportation, which the cycle rickshaws > offer.? > > The *court* then directed the MCD to provide parking space to cycle > rickshaws as well. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PTTF General" group. > To post to this group, send email to pttfgen@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > pttfgen+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/pttfgen?hl=en. > From sudhir at cai-asia.org Mon Feb 15 10:26:08 2010 From: sudhir at cai-asia.org (Sudhir) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:26:08 +0800 Subject: [sustran] Re: [pttfgen:2819] Cycle rickshaws need of the hour, ban arbitrary: Court In-Reply-To: References: <4B737CD4.3060706@gmail.com> Message-ID: One more - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/edit-page/Free-The-Roads/articleshow/5561368.cms "While the desired road space in cities is roughly 33 per cent" - where did they get this ?? On 13 February 2010 03:10, Ranjit Gadgil wrote: > However the media is behaving like one! > > The Times of India has subtly twisted the story to make it sound as if this > was a poor decision. Megha Suri has been doing this quite consistently. She > quotes dubious "experts" and puts the blame on traffic on cycle rikshaws! > > Deflated cops brace for > chaos< > http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=CAP/2010/02/11&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00200&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T > > > > The high court may have given rickshaw-pullers a reason to rejoice but an > already stretched traffic police is keeping its fingers crossed > > *The HC decision to remove cap on the number of rickshaws in the city has > evoked strong reaction from traffic experts and police. They say that the > slow mode of transport will only add to chaos and more mishaps on roads* > > > *Megha Suri Singh | TNN* > > > Even as Delhi High Court ruled that there wont be any upper cap on the > number of cycle rickshaws in the city and banned confiscation and crushing > of the rickshaws, traffic experts said that allowing rickshaws to mushroom > will only lead to absolute chaos on city roads. > The traffic police, too, have for long held the view that cycle rickshaws > need to be banned on arterial roads as they cause congestion and accidents. > Experts feel that rickshaws move at slow speed on main roads and > rickshaw-pullers are unaware of the traffic laws of the road. In a city > where over 30 modes of transport co-exist , slow moving vehicles especially > cycle rickshaws are one of the major causes of congestion. At present, > rickshaws are banned on arterial roads. But this would change after > Wednesdays order. Cycle rickshaws are one of the major causes of congestion > on Delhi roads. They should not be allowed on main roads, and not at all on > express highways as they are vulnerable to accidents and slow down traffic, > said Rohit Baluja, traffic expert and President , Institute of Road Traffic > Education (IRTE). > The traffic police have held the view that rickshaws are fine for > short-distance , local trips. The cops feel that with limited manpower, and > no powers to confiscate or crush a rickshaw, prosecution will be badly hit > and there could be chaos . > When asked about implications of the order, senior officers refused to > comment. We can comment after seeing the order, said a senior traffic > police > officer. > The long-term solution, the government feels, is creation of dedicated > tracks for cycles and cycle rickshaws along all major roads. > Delhi chief secretary Rakesh Mehta said: With issues like climate change > looming large, I dont think we can look at non-motorised vehicles (NMVs) > like cycle rickshaws as elements which can be removed from Delhis > integrated > transport network. The police needs to support NMV lanes even along > highspeed corridors. > megha.suri@timesgroup .com > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Ashok Sreenivas > wrote: > > > Sometimes, the law is not an ass! > > > > > > > http://blog.taragana.com/law/2010/02/10/cycle-rickshaws-need-of-the-hour-ban-arbitrary-court-20114/ > > > > The Delhi High *Court* Wednesday termed the ban on cycle rickshaws on the > > city?s arterial roads ?arbitrary? and stressed that non-motorised > vehicles > > were the need of the hour in the wake of rising pollution and global > > warming. > > > > A division bench comprising Chief Justice Ajit Prakash Shah, Justice S. > > Muralidhar and Justice Ravinder Bhatt said: Planet earth seems to be > > running out of options unless unorthodox and sometimes unpopular policies > > are pursued. Whatever be the nuances about the technical soundness of the > > exact extent of global warming , the signs are self evident - erratic > > weather patterns, drying rivers and a depleting water table, food > > insecurity, retreating glaciers, drastically reducing forest cover. > > > > Turning down the traffic police?s submission that cycle rickshaw pullers > > create a nuisance on the roads, the court said: It would be important for > > public authorities, particularly law enforcement agencies, to display > > sensitivity when exercising the coercive powers under various statutes to > > the vulnerable situation in which the underprivileged populations, of > which > > the rickshaw pullers form an integral part, are placed. > > > > This is a fit case where authorities should explore all options to reduce > > road congestion and consider all proposals from an overall or holistic > > perspective, the bench said while forming a committee to explore the > options > > available. > > > > Our country is vast with an ever-growing population, alarming numbers of > > whom continue to swell the list of the unemployed. In these > circumstances, > > any opportunity towards gainful employment, howsoever slight, is worth > > exploring - it may be part-time employment or full-time, it may be > seasonal > > or regional. If these are recognised as legitimate, the conclusion that > > cyclerickshaw plying is offensive to human dignity cannot be understood > at > > all, the bench remarked. > > > > Terming that every person has the right to earn their living, the court > > said:Prohibiting a class of impoverished persons altogether of the chance > of > > livelihood in a category of non-dangerous commercial activity, i.e. > hiring > > cycle rickshaws for plying cannot be supported as a reasonable > restriction. > > > > Quashing the Municipal Corporation of Delhis (MCD) policy of ?owner > should > > be plier?, the *court* said: The owner-plier policy, even though valid 22 > > years ago, cannot be regarded as non-discriminatory and valid now. It is > > arbitrary. > > > > The court was hearing a petition by NGO Manushi and Initiative for > > Transportation & Development Programmes that the court?s order and the > MCD?s > > policy of banning rickshaws from arterial roads and Chandni Chowk area in > > Old Delhi was arbitrary and violated the fundamental rights ofrickshaw > > pullers. > > > > The petition also criticised the ceiling imposed on the number of > licences > > granted to rickshaw pullers in the city. > > > > The bench prohibited the MCD from confiscating and crushing cycle > rickshaws > > without licence, terming the action unjustified. > > > > Stressing the need for non-motorised mode of transport, the court said: > The > > figures of registered motor vehicles are in excess of 60 lakh? As far as > > private commercial vehicles catering to the public are concerned, there > are > > 76,090 auto rickshaws and 30,809 taxis on the road. Thus, there is a felt > > need for non-motorized road transportation, which the cycle rickshaws > > offer.? > > > > The *court* then directed the MCD to provide parking space to cycle > > rickshaws as well. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "PTTF General" group. > > To post to this group, send email to pttfgen@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > pttfgen+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > > > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/pttfgen?hl=en. > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > To search the archives of sustran-discuss visit > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014715651517519735401:ijjtzwbu_ss > > -------------------------------------------------------- > If you get sustran-discuss via YAHOOGROUPS, please go to > http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real > sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries > (the 'Global South'). > -- Sudhir Gota Transport Specialist CAI-Asia Center Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower, ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Metro Manila, Philippines 1605 Tel: +63-2-395-2843 Fax: +63-2-395-2846 http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia Skype : sudhirgota From kaye.patdu at cai-asia.org Mon Feb 15 19:34:07 2010 From: kaye.patdu at cai-asia.org (Kaye Patdu) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:34:07 +0800 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?Special_Edition=3A_=93Un=94Sustainable?= =?windows-1252?Q?_Urban_Mobility_in_Asia_=28=93Un=94-SUMA=29_News_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Digest_Vol=2E_7_Issue_1_=96_February_2010?= Message-ID: <81215e5a1002150234t74fc9080u2bd9740d5f784d75@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! We are kicking off 2010 with a special edition of the SUMA News Digest where we collected recent news on examples of *unsustainable* urban mobility in Asia. For more on "un-SUMA" and other SUT discussions, join our Sustainable Transport community @ http://cleanairinitiative.org/portal/communities/transport_forum. Enjoy! Cheers Kaye *********************************SPECIAL EDITION** ******************************** *?Un?Sustainable Urban Mobility in Asia (?Un?-SUMA) News Digest Vol. 7 Issue 1 ? February 2010* SUMA News Digest is a free monthly e-mail publication that features news, information, and events related to sustainable urban transportation in Asia. *VISIT THE NEW CAI-Asia Website at www.cleanairinitiative.org!!! * SUMA outputs and sustainable transport projects and materials are moving to this new website. **************?Un?Sustainable Urban Mobility in Asia News Reports** ************** *2010 kicks off with record-high car sales in several Asian countries* 2010 kicks off with several Asian countries reporting record-high vehicle sales. Strong economic growth in developing Asia in combination with government incentives (*i.e.,* tax reductions [VAT, ownership tax, factory/production tax], reduced loan rates, cuts in registration fees, etc.) contributed to these high vehicle sales. China? >1.66 million cars sold in Jan. 2010 (*124%* increase compared to same period in 2009) India?145,905 cars in Jan. 2010 from 110,300 in Jan. 2009 (*32%* increase)** Malaysia?555,000 motor vehicle units in 2010 (*4.5%* increase) Philippines?11,763 units in Jan. 2010 against 8,791 units in Jan. 2009 (*34% * increase) Viet Nam?6,960 units in Jan. 2010 (*76%* increase compared to same period in 2009) Sources: *China:* China auto sales at record high URL: http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Money/Story/STIStory_488419.html *India**:* 2nd UPDATE: India Records Highest-Ever Car Sales In January URL: http://bx.businessweek.com/case-for-optimism/view?url=http%3A%2F%2Fc.moreover.com%2Fclick%2Fhere.pl%3Fr2535705767%26f%3D9791 Related News: Auto industry calls for continuation of stimulus in Budget (URL: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5571929.cms) *Malaysia*: Malaysian car sales expected to reach all-time high of 555,000 units in 2010 URL: http://news.brunei.fm/2010/01/15/malaysian-car-sales-expected-to-reach-all-time-high-of-555000-units-in-2010/ *Philippines:** *Car sales rise 34% in January URL: http://www.aseanaffairs.com/philippines_news/automotive/philippines_car_sales_rise_34_in_january *Viet Nam:* Jan auto sales increase 76% URL:http://english.thesaigontimes.vn/Home/business/other/8725/ *More roads the solution to congestion?* Coupled with increasing motorization, Asian countries are engaging in more road infrastructure projects to accommodate these new vehicles. However, is this the sustainable solution to congestion problems in Asian cities? *Indonesia:* City to accelerate land acquisition for toll roads URL: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/01/22/city-accelerate-land-acquisition-toll-roads.html *Viet Nam:* New bridge open to traffic in HCM City URL: http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/New-bridge-open-to-traffic-in-HCM-City/20102/112295.vov *Malaysia:* Sarawak to have more lanes for overtaking URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/9/nation/5641225&sec=nation *I**ndia*: Free The Roads URL: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/edit-page/Free-The-Roads/articleshow/5561368.cms * * ** *No such thing as a free lunch (or a free parking slot) * Accessibility to services and facilities is an important factor considered by individuals, potentially influencing mobility behavior. And with declining open spaces in urban areas, free parking spaces are considered an incentive for car owners. However, unregulated free parking spaces also have implications on vehicle congestion and air pollution. Sources: *India: *Police seek to make parking free at malls URL: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/-Police-seek-to-make-parking-free-at-malls/articleshow/5525562.cms *India:* When road is free, who needs a parking lot? URL: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/when-road-is-free-who-needs-a-parking-lot/564727/ *In**donesia:* Parking space or park space? URL: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/02/03/parking-space-or-park-space.html *Plans gone awry* City plans form the basis for priority areas for development in a city. However, exclusion of certain elements or not considering certain factors (such as continuity of plans) may have serious implications afterwards, as was the case in Jakarta and Pakistan. Source: *Indonesia:* Outcomes of previous spatial plan disappointing: Experts URL: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/01/17/outcomes-previous-spatial-plan-disappointing-experts.html *Pakistan**:* Pervaiz accuses govt of scrapping mass transit plan URL: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/national/16--pervaiz-accuses-govt-of-scrapping-mass-transit-plan-hs-02 *Cities struggle to combat air pollution for 2010 Mega-events * Host cities for mega-events for 2010 are keen on having good air quality during these events and have been busy preparing planning and setting-up various plans/measures for reduce air pollution in their city as well as in surrounding areas. However, addressing air pollution remains a challenge. *Commonwealth Games: New Delhi, India*?Air quality became even worse due to major construction work, coupled with vehicle congestion, for the Commonwealth Games. Air quality monitoring in Delhi reports soaring NOx and particulate matter levels. *Asian Games: Guangzhou, Guangdong Province, China*?Asian Games will be held in 12 to 27 November?the time of year where "relatively bad" air quality has been historically recorded. Guangzhou officials are reporting poor air quality despite closure of several industrial units during the financial crisis. Source: *India**:* Commonwealth games bring more pollution Delhi URL: http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100122/FOREIGN/701219846/1140 *China**:* Cleaner air for Asian Games in S. China?s Guangzhou URL: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-02/10/content_9455717.htm Related News: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Guangzhou-battles-bad-air-quality-ahead-of-Asian-Games/articleshow/5557198.cms *Festivals Freebies* China, along with some neighboring Asian countries, recently celebrated their Spring Festival. During the celebrations, motorists enjoyed several incentives, including free parking and toll discounts. Source: *China:* Hangzhou promotes free parking during Spring festival URL: http://www.echinacities.com/cityguide/Hangzhou/whatson/InPulse.aspx?WID=11322 *Malaysia:* Motorists to enjoy toll-free and discounts during CNY period URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/9/nation/5641237&sec=nation *Malaysia:* Motorists to Toll ?angpow? for CNY? URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/8/nation/20100208152007&sec=nation * * * * *INTERESTING FINDS/SEMINARS* *E-bikes 2009/2010* Electric 2-wheelers ("e-bikes") are growing in popularity in the P.R. China. Following a study for P.R. China, a study for India (Ahmedabad) and Viet Nam (Hanoi) on the market for e-bikes and their environmental impacts compared to gasoline motorbikes was carried out by Chris Cherry and Luke Jones from the University of Tennessee, under the SUMA program funded through Sida, ADB and CAI-Asia Center. E-bikes emit less CO2, PM, CO, NOx and VOCs compared to gasoline motorbikes, especially in Viet Nam where electricity is generated from gas rather than coal power plants. Improved performance, reducing purchase price and favorable tax policies would help e-bikes penetrate the markets However, to have e-bikes penetrate the market in both countries. Full report is available @ http://cleanairinitiative.org/portal/node/2337. *JARI China Roundtable 2009/2010* The 7th JARI China Roundtable was held in Beijing on November 12th with the topic of ?Long term National Environment and Energy Policy?. In session I of JARI China Roundtable, the overview on environment and energy policies was shown as keynote speeches from governmental institutes. Therefore, vehicle and environment and energy policies (session II) was discussed. Read more @ http://www.jari.or.jp/english_topics/57957/. Chinese version of documents is also available. * * * * *MARK YOUR CALENDARS* WLPGA Asian LP Gas Regional Summit ?LP Gas: Exceptional Energy for Asia?, 23 February 2010, Kuala Lumpur Conference Centre, Malaysia. http://www.worldlpgas.com/news-and-events/news/wlpga-asian-lp-gas-regional-summit/ Motor Vehicle Emissions Control Workshop (MoVE) 2010, 3-6 March 2010, Hong Kong http://www.cse.polyu.edu.hk/~activi/MoVE2010/intro_frame.htm Diesel Emissions Conference Asia, 23-25 March 2010, Beijing, China, http://www.integer-research.com/decasia/ 2010 China Green Fuels and Vehicles, 8-9 April 2010, Shanghai, China http://www.greenfuels-vehicles.com/gfvc/Agenda.html 12th Tour of the Fireflies, 18 April 2010, Manila, Philippines http://www.fireflybrigade.org/?p=213 2nd Annual Integrated Urban Transportation Network Congress 2010, 22-23 April 2010, Shanghai, China http://www.noppen.com.cn/events/2nd_transport/2nd_transport.asp 16th IRF (International Road Federation) World Meeting, 25-28 May 2010, Lisbon Congress Centre, Portugal http://www.irf2010.com/ Forum 2010 Transport and Innovation: Unleashing the Potential, 26-28 May 2010, Leipzig, Germany http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/2010/index.html 12th International Conference on Mobility and Transport for Elderly and Disabled Persons (TRANSED 2010), 2-4 June 2010, Hong Kong http://www.transed2010.hk/front/ * * * CONTRIBUTE * * * To contribute articles, news items, or event announcements for the next issue, send an email with the complete details and URL source to suma-news-owner@googlegroups.com with subject "FOR SUMA NEWS". 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From edelman at greenidea.eu Wed Feb 17 11:01:11 2010 From: edelman at greenidea.eu (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:01:11 +0100 Subject: [sustran] PechaKucha to Join Architecture for Humanity in Haiti Relief Efforts Message-ID: <4B7B4DE7.6030000@greenidea.eu> *PechaKucha to Join AfH in Haiti Relief Efforts* http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010977.html http://www.pecha-kucha.org/pechakucha-for-haiti This weekend, the PechaKucha network is joining with Architecture for Humanity to collectively rethink relief efforts and raise $1 million for rebuilding Haiti. On February 20, each presenter will have 20 seconds to share their ideas with 200,000 physical and virtual attendees. Architecture for Humanity is predicting that Global PechaKucha Day for Haiti will be the largest distributed conference in the world. What is Pecha Kucha? See first link for video that starts to explain it... -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Green Idea Factory Urbanstr. 45 D-10967 Berlin Germany Skype: toddedelman Mobile: ++49 0162 814 4081 edelman@greenidea.eu www.greenidea.eu www.flickr.com/photos/edelman From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Wed Feb 17 19:22:54 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:22:54 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Southeast Asia and World Streets Message-ID: <017c01caafbb$2d40ff60$87c2fe20$@britton@ecoplan.org> Southeast Asia is such an important part of the world, both in general and of course specifically in our area of transportation, cities and sustainable transportation -- that it is a great pity that we are seeing so little about innovations and, yes, also problems and shortcomings from your part of the world. How can we do something about this? Well the first step is to engage individuals who are already checking into this wonderful forum Sustran - that is YOU -- , to encourage them to greater initiative to bring to our attention projects, events, etc. that readers in other parts of the world will do well to know more about. (It goes without saying, if you are familiar with World Streets, that we do not in the habit of printing press releases or anything of that sort, our emphasis being more toward the analytical, independent, and as necessary critical perspectives and points of view.) There also perhaps better institutional contacts. The first of these is that over the years we noticed that within any given country, or city for that matter, there is usually one agency or institution that is closer to sharing the values of sustainable transportation plan most of the rest. How to find them and to open up discussions of how we can collaborate? The simple truth is however that at this point we simply do not know and are not in direct contact with these institutions -- and that is a real pity. Maybe some of you can help us make these contacts. One of the reasons that this kind of link can be important is that these institutions are agencies can help us cover the so-called "last kilometer" of a link between information and insights would provide an individuals might find them useful. In countries in which we have such informal sometimes very effective relationships, refine and we are able to reach more effectively the people and groups who can find our work and offerings useful. You can see more on this at http://newmobilityagenda.blogspot.com/2010/02/world-streets-collaborative-pr ogram.html#6 There is a big world out there that wants to know more about what is going on at the leading edge, and at the lagging edge, in Southeast Asia. Lend a hand. Eric Britton Note: New Paris tel. +331 7550 3788 . Kindly change your records. World Streets . www.worldstreets.org 8/10, rue Jospeh Bara . Paris 75006 France +331 7550 3788 . eric.britton@newmobility.org . Skype newmobility New Mobility Partnerships . www.partners.newmobility.org 9440 Readcrest Drive . Los Angeles, CA 90210 +1 213 984 1277 . fekbritton@gmail.org . Skype ericbritton From sutp at sutp.org Wed Feb 17 23:06:07 2010 From: sutp at sutp.org (SUTP Team) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:36:07 +0530 Subject: [sustran] GTZ updates the list of Newsletters and Discussion Groups Message-ID: <4B7BF7CF.6060103@sutp.org> Is it hard to find information on transport? Did you ever wanted to spread the word about the upcoming workshop/conference that will be of great benefit to the transport community? Considering these issues the transport team at GTZ has compiled a list of Newsletters and Discussion Groups for Researchers, Policy-makers and Planners in the Transport Sector. The 14 page document attempts to list all the well visited transport discussion groups and also sorts these groups into specific areas of focus. The document can be downloaded from http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=434. In case you are aware of any other group that is active in transport, please do send in your recommendations along with a small write up on the discussion group/newsletter and the weblink where people can access the group/newsletter. Submissions and comments can be sent to sutp[at]sutp.org SUTP team From yanivbin at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 12:32:07 2010 From: yanivbin at gmail.com (Vinay Baindur) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:02:07 +0530 Subject: [sustran] =?windows-1252?Q?UPCOMING_EVENT=3A_Mumbai_to_Host_Its_F?= =?windows-1252?Q?irst_=93Car_Free_Day=94?= Message-ID: <86b8a7051002181932n77ae6116r544c76dd326a15bc@mail.gmail.com> UPCOMING EVENT: Mumbai to Host Its First ?Car Free Day? Submitted by Erica Schlaikjeron February 19, 2010No Comment http://mumbai.thecityfix.com/upcoming-event-mumbai-to-host-its-first-car-free-day/ [image: mumbai_car_free_day] *This upcoming Sunday, February 21, for the first time ever, Mumbai is holding a Car Free Day, similar to Ciclovia in Bogot? and Summer Streets in New York City. The all-day event is organized by the Khar-Bandra-Santacruz ( KBS) Foundation, a community-based non-governmental organization that promotes cycling and walking as a way to improve the environment and quality of life for local residents. Seema Tiwari, advisor to the KBS Foundation and a former staff member of the Centre for Sustainable Transport in India(part of the EMBARQ Network , which produces this blog), shares her insights about why Car Free Day matters for her city and what it means for the global sustainable transport community.* * TheCityFix: How did this idea come about?* *Seema Tiwari: *While I was working for EMBARQ to establish the India office, I lived in Bandra. Over the weekends, in my own time, I started talking to the local community. Khar-Bandra-Santa Cruz (KBS) Foundation loved the idea and decided to implement the Mumbai Car Free Day. As some background info: KBS Foundation was involved in taking the lead on extending the Carter Road Promenade, which is a best practice for public space utilization in Mumbai?s western suburbs. The road is widely being used by the local community for fitness and recreational purposes. KBS Foundation?s mission is to motivate people to take up cycling as a mode of transportation, sport, recreation and environment protection. In the past, it has organized a film screening on cycle-friendly citiesat the Carter Road open-air amphitheatre, which attracted 100 cyclists and more than 200 viewers. *TCF: Who started Car Free Day?* *ST: *KBS Foundation took up the idea as a public awareness campaign under their much larger project, the Khar-Bandra Bicycle Project, which plans to implement 15 kilometers of dedicated cycle lanes in the neighborhood. As an immediate outcome of Car Free Day, the Foundation will be installing six bicycle stands with local politicians? support. This would not have been possible without the support of Phirojsha Godrej Foundation, Cloud 9, PCRA, EMBARQ, Wescon Group of Companies, Maharashtra Marine Board, Maharashtra Pollution Control Board, Awaaz Foundation, Radio City 91.1 FM, Fountainhead Promotions & Events and www.wherecity.com. *TCF: What is the mission of Car Free Day?* *ST:* There are six overarching goals: - Develop cleaner, greener and beautiful surroundings for a better quality of life by going eco-friendly. - Promote active transportation by creating a pro-walking and -cycling culture based on zero-pollution mobility. - Create a need for promenades, walkways and dedicated cycle lanes by active citizenship and community mobilization. - Improve quality of public spaces by assisting the government in developing dedicated cycling infrastructure like dedicated cycle lanes, cycle parks and cycle parking facilities in three phases. - Educate the community in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and make Khar, Bandra, and Santacruz carbon-neutral. - Protect and conserve the mangroves and the environment in the neighborhood. *TCF: How does this Sunday?s event compare to other car-free initiatives in cities around the world?* *ST*: For Mumbai Car Free Day, we carefully reviewed Bogota and New York City?s car-free days ? these two were our inspiration. The key difference is these that those events are led and funded by the government, whereas in Mumbai, it?s led by an NGO who fundraised with the private sector. In India, the challenge is to get the government to reach an understanding that urban projects are just not ?technical? but ?socio-technical? in nature. It is important for them to make budgets for public awareness campaigns, like Car Free Day, through which we hope to bring behavioral change in people to appreciate and use the city?s facilities, rather then rebel against the government?s sustainable transport projects. *TCF: Explain how this is innovative for Mumbai, in particular, and India, in general?* *ST*: The events planned for the day are very local, just not country- and city-specific, but neighborhood-by-neighborhood. Local gyms, clubs, Bollywood singers, restaurants, and artists are all participating. Local politicans, including Mrs. Priya Dutt, a member of Parliament, and Baba Siddique, a member of the Legislative Assembly, along with some Bandra-based celebraties, are all cycling with the community. In addition, Car Free Day is integrated with other events, such as the Mumbai Cyclothon , where 4000 cyclists will pass through our Car Free Day venue on Carter Road. And about 10 cyclists from the Bangalore Cycling Clubwill bike 1,000 kilometers from Bangalore to Mumbai, to help promote the festivities. (Follow the ride on Twitter at http://twitter.com/blrcyclingclub.) We?re also pleased to share that the Maharashtra Pollution Control Board and Awaaz Foundation are doing air and noise pollution studies before and after the event on Sunday. The test on February 17 will establish normal levels of air and noise pollution, while the test on February 21 will provide comparative data on a day without cars. We anticipate a significant reduction in both on the latter date and the result promises to be very interesting. Other Car Free Day events will include morning ragas, Tibetan yoga, BMX stunts, gully cricket, pranic healing classes, dance exercises by Leena Mogre, skating, healthy eating classes, Odissi dancing, karaoke, kite flying, art camp and ghazals by Ghulam Hashir. The evening schedule will be highlighted by a pop music performance by Shaan. *TCF: That sounds fun! How has the response been so far?* *ST*: Very positive. KBS members have held community meetings with residents along Carter Road, to gain their support and cooperation. Local police and other municipal agencies have also offered support. There?s been a ton of press and blog coverage, too. *TCF: What are plans for the future?* *ST*: There will be an evaluation of the event to note down successes, failures and recommendations. This pilot project will be compiled into a report and submitted to the Ministry of Urban Development and the Maharashtra government. MOUD?s national urban transport policy clearly states the importance of such events for public awareness. Plus, under the funds provided by the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM), there is a budget for capacity-building and public awareness campaigns, but it has not been mobilized so far. We would love for the Maharashtra Government to host future car-free days in cooperation with KBS all across Mumbai, as has already been done in Bogota and New York City. * ADDITIONAL READING:* - Individuals Can Make a Difference: A View from India(Streetsblog) - Pedal2Mumbai ? a 4 day 1010kms cycle ride by Bangalore Cycling Club in support of Mumbai car free day (Google Groups) - B?lore cyclists peddle to city for a ?car-free day? (Times of India) - Decongest roads, pedal your way around(Deccan Herald) - Fuelling the passion for cycling in Mumbai(Bangalore Mirror) - It?s car-free time at Mumbai?s Carter Road this Sunday(DNA India) - Car-free Sunday for Carter Road(Mumbai Mirror) From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Wed Feb 24 21:00:12 2010 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (Eric Britton) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:00:12 +0100 Subject: [sustran] "Should car advertising be more heavily regulated, etc., etc...." More on Message-ID: <012a01cab548$ee018430$ca048c90$@britton@ecoplan.org> "Should car advertising be more heavily regulated, etc., etc." More on, this time from Canada. Yesterday's feature article under this title generated a number of immediate comments and responses from readers in Australia, Canada and Germany, including the following announced "Canadian Code of Advertising Standards re Motor Vehicle Advertising", a "stakeholder approach" to dealing with these thorny issues. We produce it here in its essentials together with URLs for further information. But does it actually do the job? --> The full text of this article appears in today's World Streets at http://WorldStreets.org/ --> Discussions on New Mobility Forum at www.newmobility.org (Post to NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com) Read World Streets Today at http://www.worldstreets.org/ New Mobility Partnerships - http://www.newmobility.org 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France, Europe +331 4326 1323 eric.britton(at)newmobility.org Skype: newmobility From litman at vtpi.org Thu Feb 25 23:40:50 2010 From: litman at vtpi.org (Todd Alexander Litman) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:40:50 -0800 Subject: [sustran] VTPI Newsletter - Winter 2010 Message-ID: <20100225144300.852382E677@mx-list.jca.ne.jp> ----------- VTPI NEWS ----------- Victoria Transport Policy Institute "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" ------------------------------------- Winter 2010 Vol. 13, No. 1 ----------------------------------- The Victoria Transport Policy Institute is an independent research organization dedicated to developing innovative solutions to transportation problems. The VTPI website (http://www.vtpi.org ) has many resources addressing a wide range of transport planning and policy issues. VTPI also provides consulting services. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NEW VTPI DOCUMENTS ==================== "Raise My Taxes, Please! Evaluating Household Savings From High Quality Public Transit" (http://www.vtpi.org/raisetaxes.pdf ) High quality public transit consists of service sufficiently convenient and comfortable to attract travel that would otherwise be by automobile. This paper uses data from U.S. cities to investigate the incremental costs and benefits of high quality transit service. The analysis indicates that high quality public transit typically requires about $268 annually per capita in additional tax subsidy and $104 in additional fares, but provides vehicle, parking and road cost savings averaging $1,040 per capita, plus other benefits including congestion reductions, increased traffic safety, pollution reductions, improved mobility for non-drivers, improved fitness and health. This indicates that residents should rationally support tax increases if needed to create high quality public transit systems in their communities. Current planning practices tend to overlook or undervalue many of these savings and benefits and so result in underinvestment in transit quality improvements. "Parking Pricing Implementation Guidelines: How More Efficient Pricing Can Help Solve Parking Problems, Increase Revenue, And Achieve Other Planning Objectives" (http://www.vtpi.org/parkpricing.pdf ) Efficient parking pricing can provide numerous benefits including increased turnover and therefore improved user convenience, parking facility cost savings, reduced traffic problems, and increased revenues. This report provides guidance on parking pricing implementation. It describes parking pricing benefits and costs, ways to overcome common obstacles and objections, and examples of successful parking pricing programs. Parking pricing is best implemented as part of an integrated parking management program. Current trends are increasing the benefits of efficient parking pricing. Legitimate objections to parking pricing can be addressed with appropriate policies and strategies. VTPI Consulting (http://www.vtpi.org/documents/consulting.php ) Visit our updated consulting services webpages. Please contact us for assistance with transportation research, planning analysis, program development, report and guidebook production, or workshops and conference presentations * * * * * UPDATED DOCUMENTS ================= "Where We Want To Be: Home Location Preferences And Their Implications For Smart Growth" (http://www.vtpi.org/sgcp.pdf ) "The Future Isn't What It Used To Be" (http://www.vtpi.org/future.pdf "Evaluating Public Transit Benefits and Costs" (http://www.vtpi.org/tranben.pdf ) * * * * * PUBLISHED ELSEWHERE =================== "Evaluating Carbon Taxes As An Energy Conservation And Emission Reduction Strategy," Transportation Research Record 2139, Transportation Research Board (www.trb.org), pp. 125-132; at http://www.vtpi.org/carbontax.pdf Carbon taxes are based on fossil fuel carbon content, and therefore tax carbon dioxide emissions. This paper evaluates British Columbia's carbon tax, introduced in 2008. It reflects key carbon tax principles: it is broad, gradual, predictable, and structured to assist low-income people. Revenues are returned to residents and businesses in ways that protect the lowest income households. It supports economic development by encouraging energy conservation which keeps money circulating within the regional economy. "Transportation Policy and Injury Control" Injury Prevention, Vol. 15, Issue 6, 2009. (http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/15/6/362.full ) This short article describes a paradigm shift occurring in the field of transport planning, and its implications for traffic safety. The old paradigm assumed that "transportation" means automobile travel. The new paradigm recognizes a wider range of options and planning objectives. "The VMT Reduction Target Debate: Will This Get Us Where We Want to Go?" TRB Annual Meeting session video recording (http://www.bethereglobal.com/trb_2010/shop/index.php?searchstring=litman&showresult=true&exp=0&resultpage=&categories=off&msg=&search=index.php&shop=1 ). "Complete Streets" (EIP-25), Planners Advisory Service Essential Information Packets (http://www.planning.org/pas/infopackets/#25 ), American Planning Association ($30) Complete streets accommodate all users. Over the past several years, communities across the country have embraced a complete streets approach to the planning, design, construction, and operation of new transportation facilities. In this Essential Info Packet, PAS compiled a variety of articles, reports, and other resources detailing best practices for planning and building complete streets, including the VTPI "Introduction to Multi-Modal Transportation Planning: Principles and Practices." Recent Planetizen Blogs (http://www.planetizen.com/blog/2394 ): "Raise My Taxes, Please! Financing High Quality Public Transit Service Saves Me Money Overall" "Carfree Design Manual" "Accessibility, Mobility and Automobile Dependency" "Report from TRB" "Fun With Research: Higher Fuel Prices Increase Economic Productivity" * * * * * CURRENT PROJECTS =================== Canadian Tax Exempt Transit and Cycling Benefits "Cost Estimate of Proposed Amendments to the Income Tax Act to Exempt Certain Employer-Provided Transportation Benefits from Taxable Income" (http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Sites/PBO-DPB/documents/Costing_C-466_EN.pdf ). Proposed Canadian legislation C-466 would exempt from income taxes employer-provided commuter benefits up to $1,800 annually for transit and park-and-ride expenses, and $250 for cycling expenses. This study evaluated the fiscal impacts of this legislation. It concluded that net tax revenue foregone would be negligible overall, and the reduced vehicle traffic should provide economic benefits leading to increased productivity and therefore tax revenues. To support this legislation send letters to: Honourable Jim Flaherty, Minister of Finance 21st Floor, 110 O'Connor Street Ottawa, ON K1A 0G5 A model letter is available at http://www.vtpi.org/files/C466.doc . Drive Less, Pay Less: Pay-As-You-Drive Auto Insurance Performance Standard (http://www.ceres.org/Page.aspx?pid=1157 ) VTPI is working with a coalition of transportation and environmental organizations to develop a Pay-As-You-Drive (PAYD) vehicle insurance performance standard to help regulators, insurers and consumers identify truly effective PAYD policies. This standard defines specific requirements for policies to achieve Bronze, Silver and Gold ratings. For more information see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mindy-s-lubber/drive-less-pay-less-win-w_b_391373.html . * * * * * UPCOMING EVENTS ================= "Multi-modal Transportation Economic Evaluation: Cut Costs and Improve Mobility" at the Urban Transportation Summit, Toronto 3 March 2010 (http://www.strategyinstitute.com/030210_uts8/dsp.php ) "Parking Innovation Workshop" at the American Planning Association Annual Meeting, New Orleans, 11 April 2010 (http://www.planning.org/conference/program/search/activity.htm?ActivityID=138154 ). "Smart Driving: Evaluating Mobility Management" at the Edmonton International Conference on Urban Traffic Safety, 28 April 2010 (http://www.trafficsafetyconference.com ). * * * * * USEFUL RESOURCES ================= "Preventive Medicine; Special Supplement on Active Communities for Youth and Families: Using Research to Create Momentum for Change," Vol. 50, Supplement 1, January 2010; at (http://www.activelivingresearch.org/resourcesearch/journalspecialissues). This special, free journal issue contains articles describing new research on the relationships between land use policy, urban design, travel activity (walking, cycling, transit and vehicle travel), body weight and health outcomes. "Bicycling and Walking in the U.S.: 2010 Benchmarking Report" (www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/memberservices/C529. This comprehensive study by the Alliance for Biking & Walking reveals that in almost every state and major U.S. city, bicyclists and pedestrians are at a disproportionate risk of being killed, and receive less than their fair share of transportation dollars. While 10% of U.S. trips are by bike or foot, and 13% of traffic fatalities are bicyclists and pedestrians, yet biking and walking receive less than 2% of federal transportation dollars. The report indicates that states with the lowest levels of biking and walking have, on average, the highest rates of obesity, diabetes, and high blood pressure. International comparisons indicate that the U.S. investments less in biking and walking and has less biking and walking activity than its peers. "Integrating Bicycling and Public Transport in North America" by John Pucher and Ralph Buehler, Journal of Public Transportation, Vol. 12, No. 3, 2009, pp. 79-104; at http://www.nctr.usf.edu/jpt/pdf/JPT12-3Pucher.pdf. "Child and Youth Friendly Land Use and Transport Planning: Guidelines and Literature Review" (http://www.kidsonthemove.ca ) is developing guidelines for municipal transportation and land-use planners as tools to create communities that meet the needs of children and youth - and everyone else. "Abu Dhabi Urban Street Design Manual" (http://nelsonnygaard.com/Documents/Reports/Abu-Dhabi-StreetDesignManual.pdf ) This innovative Manual provides guidance to planners and designers on ways to create more walkable communities. It introduces the concept of the pedestrian realm as an integral part of the overall street composition. It uses extensive illustrations, examples and instructions to help designers, planners and decision-makers implement a new vision of urban development. It responds to the needs of a rapidly-growing city that desires to preserve cultural traditions and design features, provide natural comfort in a hot climate, accommodate diverse populations, and achieve sustainability objectives. "Who Owns The Roads? How Motorised Traffic Discourages Walking And Bicycling," by Peter L. Jacobsen, F. Racioppi and H. Rutter, Injury Prevention, Vol. 15, Issue 6, pp. 369-373; (http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/15/6/369.full.html ). This article examines the impact of vehicle traffic on walking and bicycling activity. It indicates that real and perceived danger and discomfort imposed by traffic discourages walking and bicycling, and interventions to reduce traffic speed and volume can improve public health by increasing walking and bicycling activity. "A Study on the Impact of the Green Transport Mode on Public Health Improvement," KOTI World-Brief, Vol. 1, No. 1, Korea Transport Institute, May 2009, pp. 6-8 (http://english.koti.re.kr/upload/eng_publication_regular/world-brief01.pdf ). This study found that commuters who switch from automobile to walking or cycling for eight weeks experienced significantly reduced lower blood pressure, improved lung capacity and improved cholesterol counts. It estimated that commuters who use active modes achieve annual health and fitness benefits worth an average of 2.2 million Korean Won (about $2,000). They found that incorporating these values into transportation policy and project evaluation significantly affected outcomes, resulting in higher values for policies and projects that increase active transportation among people who otherwise achieve less than 150 weekly minutes of physical activity. "Transitway Impacts Research Program" (http://www.cts.umn.edu/Research/Featured/Transitways ) investigates how high quality urban transit systems affect travel activity and land use development. "Analysis Finds Shifting Trends in Highway Funding: User Fees Make Up Decreasing Share" (http://www.subsidyscope.com/transportation/highways/funding ) This analysis of Federal Highway Statistics found the portion of U.S. highway funding paid by motor vehicle user fees has declined significantly. In 2007, 51% of highway construction and maintenance expenditures were generated through user fees (fuel taxes, vehicle registration fees and tolls) down from 61% a decade earlier. The rest came from other sources, including income, sales and property taxes. "Estimates of the External Costs of Transport in 2007" KOTI World-Brief, Vol. 1, No. 3, Korea Transport Institute (www.koti.re.kr), July, pp. 8-10; at http://english.koti.re.kr/upload/eng_publication_regular/World-Brief03.pdf. This study estimates that during 2007, South Korean household expenditures on transportation totaled 11.4% of GDP, and external transportation costs (congestion delays, accident damages and pollution emissions) totaled 5.4% of GDP. The study compares South Korea's transport costs with other countries and indicates changes over time. "Transport: External Cost of Transport In Switzerland" (http://www.are.admin.ch/themen/verkehr/00252/00472/index.html?lang=en ). This comprehensive research program by the Swiss government provides detailed estimates of various transportation costs, including infrastructure, accidents and pollutants. "International Fuel Prices 2009" (http://www.gtz.de/fuelprices) The 2009 International Fuel Prices report provides an overview of the retail prices of gasoline and diesel in more than 170 countries, discusses pricing policies, presents case studies on the impact of high and volatile fuel prices in 2007/2008 in developing countries and provides access to numerous additional resources. "Rethinking Transport and Climate Change" (http://www.transport2012.org/bridging/ressources/files/1/96,Rethinking_Transport_and_Climate_Chan.pdf ) and "Changing Course: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Urban Transport" (http://www.adb.org/Documents/Books/Paradigm-Sustainable-Urban-Transport/new-paradigm-transport.pdf ). These two new reports by the Asian Development Bank conclude that current transportation planning practices are unsustainable and discuss policy and planning changes needed to create more efficient and equitable transport systems. "Transit Benefit Ordinance" (www.transitbenefitordinance.com). This new website provides specific information on how municipal governments can encourage or require larger employers to offer transit benefits. "Carfree Design Manual" by Joel Crawford, International Books (http://www.carfree.com/cdm ). This comprehensive and attractive book, featuring hundreds of photographs and drawings, describes the theory and practice of carfree (and car-light) urban planning. "How Free Is Your Parking?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_O6dR7YfvM&feature=player_embedded ) Sincerely, Todd Alexander Litman Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) litman@vtpi.org Phone & Fax 250-360-1560 1250 Rudlin Street, Victoria, BC, V8V 3R7, CANADA "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" From yanivbin at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 22:30:59 2010 From: yanivbin at gmail.com (Vinay Baindur) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:00:59 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Bus Rapid Transit needs infrastructure to work Message-ID: <86b8a7051002270530x24b7f553y48773eacc7b4e60@mail.gmail.com> *Bus Rapid Transit needs infrastructure to work* *By Express News Service 27 Feb 2010 08:12:23 AM IST* ?? http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=%E2%80%98Bus+Rapid+Transit+needs+infrastructure+to+work%E2%80%99&artid=Sjy9EKoV/qc=&SectionID=Qz/kHVp9tEs=&MainSectionID=Qz/kHVp9tEs=&SEO=&SectionName=UOaHCPTTmuP3XGzZRCAUTQ== * * BANGALORE: Senior transport engineer for sustainable transport from the USA, Dario Hidalgo, on Friday pointed out that building roads, flyovers, underpasses and widening of roads is not enough to get rid of traffic congestion in urban areas. ?Besides BRT (Bus Rapid Transit), infrastructure and accessibility should be created for non-motorised transport for pedestrians and cyclists,? he said. He said that the BRT system in Asia is not yet fully understood by stakeholders, at a day-long national workshop on BRT held by the Directorate of Urban Land Transport. He added that Delhi?s problems resulted in a negative impact on BRT all over India as the Delhi bus corridor had several problems in its first weeks. Hidalgo said BRT is a high quality public transport system, oriented to users and offering fast, comfortable and low-cost urban mobility. He stressed the importance of BRT for Bangalore. ?Following economic development, numbers of vehicles are increasing faster than population,? he said. The Comprehensive Transport and Traffic Plan for Bangalore proposes that BRT can be done for 291.5 km at a cost of Rs 3,498 crore in two phases in 14 corridors. The proposal is to develop BRT on the Outer Ring Road as a pilot project from Hebbal to Central Silk Board junction. The bus system would have a dedicated corridor and operate new technology buses designed for urban environment. Hidalgo said that BRT does not need wide roads to be incorporated in urban areas. ?BRT will be a success provided it has dedicated bus lanes and elevated tracks besides integrating the feeder services with the system,? he added. Transport Secretary S Shankarlinge Gowda said that BRT can be incorporated in Bangalore if certain corridors are facilitated for it. ?Without the involvement of civic bodies, BRT cannot be implemented. The Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) and the Bangalore Development Authority (BDA) should be proactive and take up the project,? he added. Gowda said that BRT should also be planned for developing cities like Mysore and Hubli-Dharwad. ?BDA should take up developing of BRT for 30 km in the first phase,? he added. m feedback@expressbuzz.com ? Copyright 2008 ExpressBuzz