[sustran] Re: [WorldCityBike] Pro-Bicycle legislation

Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory edelman at greenidea.eu
Fri Oct 23 20:08:52 JST 2009


Hi Carlos,

Wow, this is such a potentially huge category. In reality a lot of 
things which help or encourage cycling would or could not even mention it.

So, for example, laws which give an unfair advantage to large 
supermarkets means small shops die out, which can stimulate cycling 
because people have to travel further to get stuff, but probably only if 
these big stores are difficult to park cars at.... or a law which says 
that a health care system gets paid for my a new tax on personal 
car-driving also might not mention cycling at all but might increase it 
as driving becomes more expensive (and if tax revenue goes down for the 
hospitals etc it be okay because people are exercising more, etc)... 
your question reminds me of one asked recently on the Sustran list about 
road safety (not "road safety") but only talking about things like zebra 
crossings and not restrictions on vehicle use, design, motive power, 
etc. which would actually make these zebras less necessary.... all these 
knock-on effects! Gravity+Economy+Legal+ probably even lawyers and 
psychologists have to describe this using a combination of fluid 
dynamics and algebra..... in other words is who,ever you are working 
with asking not all the right questions?

- T

(please also see below for correct current placement of Mr. Pardo)

Britton wrote:
>  
>
> Hi,
>
> We're doing some work related to legislation which has some content
> about bicycles (helmet use, circulation, bicycle parking, registration,
> penalties, reflective gear and/or lights, bike taxis, e-bikes, import
> duties and taxes, public bikes....), but have found mostly "bad
> practices" (mostly because we don't know languages different from
> Spanish and English). Can anyone point me to either existent legislation
> with specifics or documents which compile these? I can send you what
> we've found but it's mostly in Spanish and few things in English.
>
> I guess this is of interest to the entire list, so it may be useful to
> get information on the list rather than off-list. And now that I think
> of it, just for the sake of it, it would also be useful to see what
> anti-bicycle legislation exists.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Carlos.
>
> Carlosfelipe Pardo
> Country Director, Colombia
> Institute for Transportation & Development Policy (ITDP)
>
> Regional Office
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> Bogotá, DC, COLOMBIA
> Tels: +57 (1) 211-0654 / 803-9397 - Fax: +57 (1) 211-0654
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