[sustran] Re: How much money should we spend on nicer buses?
bruun at seas.upenn.edu
bruun at seas.upenn.edu
Tue Jun 23 01:35:54 JST 2009
Peter
The fact that you even had to explain this to someone shows that there
is a lack of professional
planning capacity overseeing the network.
Eric Buun
Quoting Peter Lutman <lutman at globalnet.co.uk>:
> Dear Eric,
>
> I was particularly interested by Dr Adhiraj Joglekar's contribution
> relating to several Indian Cities posted today. Much of what he
> stated is sound common sense. I have knowledge only of Mumbai and
> perhaps the following comments relating to that City may have
> appication elsewhere.
> 1 I was in a team asked to examine the Mumbai bus network. With
> many hundreds of routes spread over a huge area and carrying 4.5
> million customers daily, this was an impossible task in the project
> time available. We therefore concentrated on routes feeding the CBD
> peninsula.
> 2 Even this had a huge route network with bus services extending
> to the west coastal communities, the central ones. the eastern ones
> and Nowe Mumbai.
> 3 Analysis of the network route by route showed that the nonsense
> promulgated 50 years ago by the Consultancy arm of the old London
> Transport (add the two way journey time to the two terminal layovers
> and divide the total by the number of buses one wished to deploy on
> the route to determine the frequency) had resulted in various
> services offering headways of 19, 23, 37 and 52 minutes and the
> like. Note I have called these headways not frequencies.
> 4 Clearly the people planning this nonsense either never
> themselves travel on these services or possibly catch exactly the
> same bus every day to and from their destination so they know what
> time it is scheduled. Most people are unable to plan their days with
> such precision.
> 5 Bearing in mind the scorching heat / driving monsoon rain
> depending upon the season, the maximum interval between buses should
> be 10 minutes or less on every important route. (Dr Joglekar
> mentions 5 minute intervals but there were very few individual
> routes reaching this frequency - although some trips where several
> routes ran in common would offer this level of service)
> 6 The absolute minimum urban headway in a metropolis like Mumbai
> should be 30 minutes. No bus service should be planned unless the
> headway is divisible into 60 minutes - the only acceptable ones are
> anything up to 6 minutes, 7.5 minutes, 10 minutes, 12 minutes, 15
> minutes 20 minutes and 30 minutes.
> 7 The times should remain as constant as possible throughout the
> day (allowing for running time variations to cope with peak
> congestion) so that customers can remember the times past each hour
> when buses leave a terminal and have these fixed in their minds -
> e.g. 07,22,37 and 52 minutes past each hour. This is the basic key
> to successful marketing of any public transport timetable, and is
> even more vital where, as in Mumbai, the timetables are not
> published or advertised.
> 8 The rubbish routes with crazy, non memorable, non recurring
> headways should be ditched. Most of them probably only exist due to
> vote-catching political pressure from someone who doesn't understand
> the basics of public transport.
> 9 Transfer tickets should be available to enable customers who
> used the 37 / 52 minute headway routes and the others instead to use
> two frequent routes and interchange between them realising the
> benefit of short waiting times, staying cool and dry, getting there
> more quickly etc without any financial penalty. Season tickets would
> offer the same convenience but might not be affordable by those
> living on the financial margin.
> 10 The resources from the rubbish routes should be used to
> strengthen the rest of the network, so the 19 minute headways might
> become 15 minutes (or 20), the 27 minutes become 20 or 30 etc.
> 11 I could go on about the removal of double deck high capacity
> buses and the need for two conductors on these and the handful of
> articulated buses, the impossibility of clambering up (and down)
> three steps by the elderly or handicapped (who are effectively
> excluded from public transport as a result) but these are other
> matters not relating to the route / timetable patterns themselves.
> 12 The chief planner told me on my second visit that he had
> listened to my earlier recommendations and had implemented many of
> them in the last 4-monthly service review. As a result daily
> boardings had risen to 4.7 million customers (of course a few
> thousand of these may have been due to a minority of users having to
> transfer). These solutions will work everywhere in the world and
> might be worth trying in the other Indian Cities too.
>
> Peter Lutman FCILT
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Britton
> To: Sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:24 AM
> Subject: [sustran] How much money should we spend on nicer buses?
>
>
> Dear Sustranes and particularly everyone who is chipping in on
> this great topic, this seashell to the ear and you hear the roar of
> the ocean. .
>
>
>
> What I am seeing thus far is so very good, so very germane in many
> ways for many paces, that I would like to turn it into a small
> series of pieces for World Streets. I have already contacted several
> of the authors to see how we might best handle this.
>
>
>
> All thoughts on this and further discussion here are very welcome indeed.
>
>
>
> Best/Eric
>
>
>
> PS. Have you chipped in with your thoughts on World Streets. We
> are getting some wonderful commentaries and commendations, and these
> are going to be very valuable for us indeed as we chart a course for
> the future.
>
>
>
> Eric Britton | World Streets | The New Mobility Agenda | Paris |
> +331 4326 1323 | Skype ericbritton
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