[sustran] Re: Beijing to build "public transport city"

Carlosfelipe Pardo carlosfpardo at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 19:50:46 JST 2009


Sudhir,

You're right, sorry for the "black hat" You are right that it's much 
better to have more public transport prioritized than ring roads.in my 
position. What I meant is that the policy should include the reversal of 
anti-bicycle measures and even the creation of more pro-bicycle 
measures, and the continuation of car restriction measures (which 
started with the odd-even scheme during the Olympics but I'm not sure if 
any other similar measure has been implemented).

I guess my point is that many measures can be seen as positive, but they 
are only effective when they are part of a broader agenda of sustainable 
urban transport (similar to what Sujit has said).

Best regards,

Carlos.

Sudhir wrote:
> Hi Carlos and others,
>
> Good news is instead of one more ring road at least the investment and 
> priority is on public transport.
>
> Now, if they keep up the funding on public transport with good 
> investment on non motorized transport and provide incentives, i think 
> its a very good move...... 
>
> The question is how much of private transport share is bearable? i 
> would be happy with 20-25% of private mode share in Asian cities with 
> proportionate investment in 2020.
>
> In short if they can freeze the current mode share of private 
> automobiles (20% in 2004) :-)
>
> best regards
> Sudhir
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/6/13 Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpardo at gmail.com 
> <mailto:carlosfpardo at gmail.com>>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     An interesting question is if they in Beijing expect the future
>     public transport users to come from cars or bicycles... this is
>     seldom answered (or asked) in any of these schemes and remains a
>     problem. In many places I've asked that question and they normally
>     say that future bicycle users will come from public transport, or
>     the opposite. And when they say that bicycle or public transport
>     users will come from cars, they have no idea how this will be
>     achieved.
>
>     Beijing used to have an extremely high mode share of bicycle use
>     some years ago, and it has now fallen to pieces due to the
>     "promotion" of cars. So is promoting public transport good or bad
>     in this scenario? I mean, will they end up with no one riding
>     bicycles and the rest in cars or buses? Not sure if it's the
>     win-win situation.
>
>     Carlos.
>
>     Sudhir wrote:
>
>
>         /Beijing has set a target, how about other cities??/
>
>
>         see
>         http://www.beijingdaily.com.cn/beijingnews/200906/t20090612_524515.htm
>
>         Beijing will transform into a "public transport city" by 2015.
>         In peak hours, the minimum departure interval for subway
>         trains will be shortened to 2 minutes; the waiting time at bus
>         stops will be reduced to 3 to 5 minutes; public transport will
>         account for 45 percent of the journeys in downtown areas.
>         "Beijing's implementation plan on humanistic, technological
>         and green transport" (from 2009 to 2015) was recently reviewed
>         and approved by the Standing Committee of CPC Beijing
>         Municipal Committee, unveiling the "public transport city".
>
>         Beijing will transform into a "public transport city" by 2015.
>
>          Public transport will account for 45 percent of the journeys
>         in downtown areas
>
>         According to the plan, from 2009 to 2015, Beijing will
>         construct a new transport system meeting the capital city's
>         needs for development, by implementing four major projects
>         including rail transit network project.
>
>         By then, the public transport will become remarkably more
>         attractive. Public transport will account for 45 percent of
>         the journeys in downtown areas, while over 50 percent of the
>         journeys will be via public transport during the commuting
>         period. Rail transit will undertake around 50 percent of total
>         passenger traffic of public transport, and the average daily
>         passenger flow by rail transit and bus combined will be over
>         25 million; building a transport circle of "1-1-2" hours means
>         that the average commuting time within the downtown area will
>         be no more than 1 hour, the travel time from the furthest new
>         towns to the Fifth Ring Road will be no more than 1 hour, and
>         the travel time from Beijing to major cities in the Bohai Bay
>         Rim economic region will be less than 2 hours. The total
>         amount of major pollutants emitted by vehicles will be lower
>         than that in 2008. Read More @
>         http://www.beijingdaily.com.cn/beijingnews/200906/t20090612_524515.htm
>
>         -- 
>         Sudhir Gota
>         Transport Specialist
>         CAI-Asia Center
>         Unit 3510, 35th Floor, Robinsons-Equitable Tower,
>         ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City
>         Metro Manila, Philippines 1605
>         Tel: +63-2-395-2843
>         Fax: +63-2-395-2846
>         http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia
>         Skype : sudhirgota
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> Sudhir Gota
> Transport Specialist
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> Metro Manila, Philippines 1605
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