[sustran] Re: CDM Projects (Clean Development Mechanism) - public transport

[Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory]

Hi Aashish,

This is an important question - which could perhaps include "Lots Less 
Cars" - and I am sure the three different 
administrator/co-administrators will answer it soon.

For me it is clear that Sustran is about developing world/Global South 
issues. Very often the same messages go out on both New Mobility Cafe 
and Lots Less Cars, and while there are guidelines to make it simple for 
me what I usually do is if it something interesting and useful I send it 
to Lots Less and if even more exciting, revolutionary and 
important/critical I also send to New Mobility. And of course also to 
Sustran if applicable.

I know that Eric works very hard at keeping the discussion lean and 
focused and while I sometimes object if a post I make - especially if  I 
take a lot of time with it - is rejected, I see the reason for this. We 
can always post anything we want on our own Blogs, or of course start 
our own discussions.

Sustran, New Mobility/Lots Less and Sustran also originate in three 
different institutions/entities, and perhaps some differences between 
them are fundamental. As for me, I do not participate in Cities for 
Mobility. It seems that the discussions held there could be useful but I 
am convinced that the whole project - no matter how inclusive-seeming - 
is in large part a greenwashing exercise for the Stuttgart-based 
automobile industry. Cities for Mobility has as one of its "mobility 
columns" the private urban car, and in (not just) my eyes this is Old 
Mobility and thus presents a fundamental difference from - and obviously 
a challenge to - the philosophy behind/purpose of the other lists.

Regards,
T





 Aashish Gupta wrote:
> Dear Eric
> I have gained much from the discussions at New moility cafe,
> Cities-for-Mobility and sustrans. I have a suggestion. Cant we integrate all
> the lists, since all of them have a common focus. It would be much easier,
> as well as enlarge the discussion.
>
> Aashish Gupta
> Department of Humanities and Social Sciences
> Indian Institute of Technology Madras
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Eric Britton <eric.britton at ecoplan.org>wrote:
>
>   
>> That's a good question Roland. I just tried Knoogling it and came up with
>> some interesting responses. You might wish to give it a try at
>> http://knoogle.net . (And if you have suggestions for us as to sources or
>> other details to improve  its operation ,please do . . . Eric Britton
>>
>>
>>
>> On Behalf Of Roland Sapsford
>> Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2008 00:11
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Is anyone aware of any work underway through the CDM, or in negotiations
>> around its successors, to make it easier for transport projects to be
>> included.
>>
>> As far as I know, the only public transport project so far granted CDM
>> credits is the TransMilenio busway in Bogota.  The main barrier is that
>> transport projects usually involve policy and planning changes as well as
>> projects, and the methodological tests for additionality are hard to meet.
>>
>> Curiously yours
>> Roland Sapsford
>>
>>
>>
>> Roland Sapsford
>> Sustainability Solutions Consulting
>>
>> Climate Change, Cities, Energy, Transport
>>
>>
>> PO Box 11-708, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
>> +64-4-9341106(w); +64-4-3851105(h); +64-21-651105(m)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Rainer Rothfuss wrote:
>>
>>
>> A través del instrumento CDM se pueden financiar proyectos para reducir
>> emisiones de CO2 - también en el área del transporte.
>>
>>
>> Más informaciones: http://www.cdm-cooperation.de/7.0.html
>>
>> Para saber más del los proyectos ya implementados en los diferentes países
>> de América Latina hay que registrarse como usuario (gratuito).
>>
>>
>> Clean Development Mechanism
>>
>>
>> The Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) is a project-based mechanism, laid
>> down in the Kyoto Protocol within the United Nations Framework Convention
>> on
>> Climate Change (UNFCCC <http://www.unfccc.int/> ) in 1997. On the one
>> hand,
>> it serves as a tool for the achievement of companies? or state?s emission
>> targets under minimum costs. On the other hand, it provides an economic
>> incentive for investments in technologies aiming at climate protection.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rainer Rothfuss
>>
>>
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