From sujit at vsnl.com Sat Sep 1 16:34:54 2007 From: sujit at vsnl.com (Sujit Patwardhan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:04:54 +0530 Subject: [sustran] Chicago Transit Fare Hike Message-ID: <4cfd20aa0709010034m53a34692i3c45eddcec0c893d@mail.gmail.com> 1 September 2007 While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about Chicago. I was under the impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in providing transit facilities. -- Sujit Here is the news:- To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services?to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into effect on September 16th. -- ------------------------------------------------------ Sujit Patwardhan sujit@vsnl.com sujitjp@gmail.com "Yamuna", ICS Colony, Ganeshkhind Road, Pune 411 007 India Tel: 25537955 ----------------------------------------------------- Hon. Secretary: Parisar www.parisar.org ------------------------------------------------------ Founder Member: PTTF (Pune Traffic & Transportation Forum) www.pttf.net ------------------------------------------------------ From eric.britton at free.fr Sat Sep 1 18:10:36 2007 From: eric.britton at free.fr (eric.britton at free.fr) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:10:36 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Chicago Transit Fare Hike In-Reply-To: <4cfd20aa0709010034m53a34692i3c45eddcec0c893d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <671479417CDD45A687C1238F3C4B80CA@joey> Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this would be a happier planet. In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency Project at www.climate.newmobility.org , where I hope shortly to post some useful information on these sessions. In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. Eric Britton 1 September 2007 While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about Chicago. I was under the impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in providing transit facilities. -- Sujit Here is the news:- To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services-to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into effect on September 16th. From etts at indigo.ie Sat Sep 1 21:41:59 2007 From: etts at indigo.ie (Brendan Finn) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:41:59 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Re: Chicago Transit Fare Hike References: <671479417CDD45A687C1238F3C4B80CA@joey> Message-ID: <00fb01c7ec95$7d3dc1b0$3201a8c0@finn> Dear Eric, Sujit, I have argued many times against cheap fare policies (i.e. deliberate under-pricing) and that transit should be as close to self-financing as it can achieve. I have argued three main points : 1) All choice users and many non-choice users have the affordability to pay more than "cheap", and most would be willing to do so for better quality. Under-priced transit uses up the available funds for wealth-transfer, leaving little for quality improvements or reinvestment. Public funds should be spent on service, quality and infrastructure, not on low fares. 2) The vulnerable within society can be supported by subsidising transit passes for them (rather than for all users) and this should be done through welfare funding channels rather than transit funding channels. This better protects the funding source since politicians and administrators would have to overtly remove welfare from those who need it, at risk of heavy political backlash. 3) Cheap fares require heavy subsidies, and these inevitably tend to keep growing. The transit is then totally at the mercy of the funder. Sooner or later, an administration will come in who decides to cut the subsidy program. They can dress it up in many ways - national austerity measures, correct 'inefficiency and profligacy' (as Eric quotes), moving to a user-pays principle, etc., etc. - we are all familiar with these dreaded sea-changes. Tariffs increase dramatically, services are thinned out and quieter routes closed, customer support programs are slashed, investment is put on hold, quality programs are shelved, important management functions are shut down, and confrontation arises with labour as hard measures are forced through. Patronage is lost, good working relationships are lost, the development effort of a few decades goes down the drain, and the innovators and developers in the management team are pushed aside for the bean-counters. Instability and down-sizing kill user confidence in a way that takes decades to recover. Chicago seems to be yet another example of the vulnerability of transit once subsidy becomes a significant part of its income stream. I have no moral or economic argument against subsidy for transit - the more public funds the better, if used wisely. However, it is a Faustian Pact, and a day of reckoning eventually comes. Transit planners and managers should think long and hard about the bargains they enter - they owe it to their customers, their city and their workers. With best wishes, Brendan. _____________________________________________________________________________________ >From Brendan Finn, ETTS Ltd. e-mail : etts@indigo.ie tel : +353.87.2530286 ----- Original Message ----- From: eric.britton@free.fr To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: [sustran] Chicago Transit Fare Hike Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this would be a happier planet. In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency Project at www.climate.newmobility.org , where I hope shortly to post some useful information on these sessions. In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. Eric Britton 1 September 2007 While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about Chicago. I was under the impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in providing transit facilities. -- Sujit Here is the news:- To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services-to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into effect on September 16th. -------------------------------------------------------- From chriskost at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 00:19:59 2007 From: chriskost at gmail.com (Christopher Kost) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:19:59 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: Chicago Transit Fare Hike In-Reply-To: <00fb01c7ec95$7d3dc1b0$3201a8c0@finn> References: <671479417CDD45A687C1238F3C4B80CA@joey> <00fb01c7ec95$7d3dc1b0$3201a8c0@finn> Message-ID: Brendan, You raise good points, but the assumption that the transit-dependent can pay more than cheap is problematic. At least in the U.S., many public transport users are very poor. In Los Angeles, the median household income for bus riders is $12,000. (The median household income in the city as a whole is $43,000.) A family with that income buying, say, two adult monthly passes and two student passes will end up spending a similar proportion of its income on transportation to that spent by those who own cars. So even the current "low" fares aren't giving poor people much of a break. I agree that the first-best solution would be to use welfare channels, but that's difficult in the current political climate in the U.S., so in the meantime I think it makes sense to keep fares low. Regards, chris On Sep 1, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Brendan Finn wrote: > Dear Eric, Sujit, > > I have argued many times against cheap fare policies (i.e. > deliberate under-pricing) and that transit should be as close to > self-financing as it can achieve. I have argued three main points : > > 1) All choice users and many non-choice users have the > affordability to pay more than "cheap", and most would be willing > to do so for better quality. Under-priced transit uses up the > available funds for wealth-transfer, leaving little for quality > improvements or reinvestment. Public funds should be spent on > service, quality and infrastructure, not on low fares. > > 2) The vulnerable within society can be supported by subsidising > transit passes for them (rather than for all users) and this should > be done through welfare funding channels rather than transit > funding channels. This better protects the funding source since > politicians and administrators would have to overtly remove welfare > from those who need it, at risk of heavy political backlash. > > 3) Cheap fares require heavy subsidies, and these inevitably tend > to keep growing. The transit is then totally at the mercy of the > funder. Sooner or later, an administration will come in who decides > to cut the subsidy program. They can dress it up in many ways - > national austerity measures, correct 'inefficiency and > profligacy' (as Eric quotes), moving to a user-pays principle, > etc., etc. - we are all familiar with these dreaded sea-changes. > Tariffs increase dramatically, services are thinned out and quieter > routes closed, customer support programs are slashed, investment is > put on hold, quality programs are shelved, important management > functions are shut down, and confrontation arises with labour as > hard measures are forced through. Patronage is lost, good working > relationships are lost, the development effort of a few decades > goes down the drain, and the innovators and developers in the > management team are pushed aside for the bean-counters. Instability > and down-sizing kil > l user confidence in a way that takes decades to recover. > > Chicago seems to be yet another example of the vulnerability of > transit once subsidy becomes a significant part of its income > stream. I have no moral or economic argument against subsidy for > transit - the more public funds the better, if used wisely. > However, it is a Faustian Pact, and a day of reckoning eventually > comes. Transit planners and managers should think long and hard > about the bargains they enter - they owe it to their customers, > their city and their workers. > > With best wishes, > > > Brendan. > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________ >> From Brendan Finn, ETTS Ltd. e-mail : etts@indigo.ie tel : >> +353.87.2530286 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: eric.britton@free.fr > To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM > Subject: [sustran] Chicago Transit Fare Hike > > > Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, > > Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves > with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped > by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural > and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the > CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old > mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only > city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this > would be a happier planet. > > In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on > brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and > agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the > possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see > more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency > Project at www.climate.newmobility.org www.climate.newmobility.org/> , where I hope shortly to post some > useful information on these sessions. > > In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you > will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. > > Eric Britton > > 1 September 2007 > > While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by > the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about > Chicago. I was under the > impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in > providing transit facilities. > -- > > Sujit > > Here is the news:- > > To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit > Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services- > to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak > train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak > hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel > pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to > $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into > effect on September 16th. > -------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via > YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran- > discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership > rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' > there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the > yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the > confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, > equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing > countries (the 'Global South'). From edelman at greenidea.info Sun Sep 2 22:51:09 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:51:09 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: Chicago Transit Fare Hike In-Reply-To: References: <671479417CDD45A687C1238F3C4B80CA@joey> <00fb01c7ec95$7d3dc1b0$3201a8c0@finn> Message-ID: <46DABFCD.9010506@greenidea.info> ... and what about private transport being self-financing as a pre-condition or part of the same plan? Hmmm.... guess it would have to be part of a package lowering income taxes significantly at the same time.... - T Christopher Kost wrote: > Brendan, > > You raise good points, but the assumption that the transit-dependent > can pay more than cheap is problematic. > > At least in the U.S., many public transport users are very poor. In > Los Angeles, the median household income for bus riders is $12,000. > (The median household income in the city as a whole is $43,000.) A > family with that income buying, say, two adult monthly passes and two > student passes will end up spending a similar proportion of its > income on transportation to that spent by those who own cars. So even > the current "low" fares aren't giving poor people much of a break. > > I agree that the first-best solution would be to use welfare > channels, but that's difficult in the current political climate in > the U.S., so in the meantime I think it makes sense to keep fares low. > > > Regards, > chris > > > > On Sep 1, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Brendan Finn wrote: > > >> Dear Eric, Sujit, >> >> I have argued many times against cheap fare policies (i.e. >> deliberate under-pricing) and that transit should be as close to >> self-financing as it can achieve. I have argued three main points : >> >> 1) All choice users and many non-choice users have the >> affordability to pay more than "cheap", and most would be willing >> to do so for better quality. Under-priced transit uses up the >> available funds for wealth-transfer, leaving little for quality >> improvements or reinvestment. Public funds should be spent on >> service, quality and infrastructure, not on low fares. >> >> 2) The vulnerable within society can be supported by subsidising >> transit passes for them (rather than for all users) and this should >> be done through welfare funding channels rather than transit >> funding channels. This better protects the funding source since >> politicians and administrators would have to overtly remove welfare >> from those who need it, at risk of heavy political backlash. >> >> 3) Cheap fares require heavy subsidies, and these inevitably tend >> to keep growing. The transit is then totally at the mercy of the >> funder. Sooner or later, an administration will come in who decides >> to cut the subsidy program. They can dress it up in many ways - >> national austerity measures, correct 'inefficiency and >> profligacy' (as Eric quotes), moving to a user-pays principle, >> etc., etc. - we are all familiar with these dreaded sea-changes. >> Tariffs increase dramatically, services are thinned out and quieter >> routes closed, customer support programs are slashed, investment is >> put on hold, quality programs are shelved, important management >> functions are shut down, and confrontation arises with labour as >> hard measures are forced through. Patronage is lost, good working >> relationships are lost, the development effort of a few decades >> goes down the drain, and the innovators and developers in the >> management team are pushed aside for the bean-counters. Instability >> and down-sizing kil >> l user confidence in a way that takes decades to recover. >> >> Chicago seems to be yet another example of the vulnerability of >> transit once subsidy becomes a significant part of its income >> stream. I have no moral or economic argument against subsidy for >> transit - the more public funds the better, if used wisely. >> However, it is a Faustian Pact, and a day of reckoning eventually >> comes. Transit planners and managers should think long and hard >> about the bargains they enter - they owe it to their customers, >> their city and their workers. >> >> With best wishes, >> >> >> Brendan. >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> _______________ >> >>> From Brendan Finn, ETTS Ltd. e-mail : etts@indigo.ie tel : >>> +353.87.2530286 >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: eric.britton@free.fr >> To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org >> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM >> Subject: [sustran] Chicago Transit Fare Hike >> >> >> Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, >> >> Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves >> with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped >> by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural >> and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the >> CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old >> mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only >> city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this >> would be a happier planet. >> >> In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on >> brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and >> agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the >> possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see >> more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency >> Project at www.climate.newmobility.org > www.climate.newmobility.org/> , where I hope shortly to post some >> useful information on these sessions. >> >> In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you >> will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. >> >> Eric Britton >> >> 1 September 2007 >> >> While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by >> the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about >> Chicago. I was under the >> impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in >> providing transit facilities. >> -- >> >> Sujit >> >> Here is the news:- >> >> To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit >> Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services- >> to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak >> train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak >> hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel >> pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to >> $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into >> effect on September 16th. >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via >> YAHOOGROUPS. >> >> Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran- >> discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership >> rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' >> there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the >> yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the >> confusing arrangement. >> >> ================================================================ >> SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, >> equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing >> countries (the 'Global South'). >> > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From eric.britton at free.fr Mon Sep 3 16:35:06 2007 From: eric.britton at free.fr (eric.britton at free.fr) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:35:06 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free Message-ID: <404D44BB0E904B1D93B876E2EED776B8@joey> With all due respect Brendan, and I do very much appreciate those three important points you bring up (see below), I really do believe that the time has come in which we have to set aside just about all of our traditional thinking and practices about how we finance and deliver transport in cities and in the process come up with a whole new game plan. The Chicago experience, so very typical in many respects, makes it clear above all to me that we simply cannot afford to tinker any longer with the old models, which clearly are not working by any of a thousand balanced criteria. The emerging new model, which many of us here are trying very hard to help bring out from the woodwork, the so-called New Mobility Agenda, is predicated on an entirely different set of assumptions, one of them being that a whole dynamic range of seamless "non-own-car" services are needed, that these can and will be provided by a much broader spectrum of players than in the old binary mobility model, and that one of these has to be a basic underpinning of available-to-all public services which are in effect a "free" or at the very least a fully seamless public utility. And yes of course I am well aware of the abuses that such free services can lead to, and this note will not be the place to elaborate or to defend the basic concept. I might add however that in my view at least the services should not be altogether free, since it is important for many reasons to have full feedback about system use and patronage trends, etc., which means some kind of smart card, and this it seems to me to be fair and good to ask people to pay for. The end goal has to be to get the very great majority of private cars out of the city, and in order to achieve that we are going to have to provide "better than car" mobility systems. Hop-on, hop-off transit is part of this necessary package, an essential foundation stone for the rest. How to pay for it? How to deliver it? And how do you, how do we assure the necessary rigors of good management? What other kinds of services are needed to fill out the mobility spectrum, and what do we need to do to we get them on board? These are the kinds of question that we should be asking ourselves. And finding cities and city leaders who want to get involved in making this new model of transport and society. This has to be a teamwork undertaking Eric Britton PS. Some of you may wish to check out our in-process Reinventing Transport in Cities site at www.climate.newmobility.org . In addition to the Workpad examples, more will appear there shortly on the on-going Chicago rethink. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Brendan Finn Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:42 PM Dear Eric, Sujit, I have argued many times against cheap fare policies (i.e. deliberate under-pricing) and that transit should be as close to self-financing as it can achieve. I have argued three main points: 1) All choice users and many non-choice users have the affordability to pay more than "cheap", and most would be willing to do so for better quality. Under-priced transit uses up the available funds for wealth-transfer, leaving little for quality improvements or reinvestment. Public funds should be spent on service, quality and infrastructure, not on low fares. 2) The vulnerable within society can be supported by subsidising transit passes for them (rather than for all users) and this should be done through welfare funding channels rather than transit funding channels. This better protects the funding source since politicians and administrators would have to overtly remove welfare from those who need it, at risk of heavy political backlash. 3) Cheap fares require heavy subsidies, and these inevitably tend to keep growing. The transit is then totally at the mercy of the funder. Sooner or later, an administration will come in who decides to cut the subsidy program. They can dress it up in many ways - national austerity measures, correct 'inefficiency and profligacy' (as Eric quotes), moving to a user-pays principle, etc., etc. - we are all familiar with these dreaded sea-changes. Tariffs increase dramatically, services are thinned out and quieter routes closed, customer support programs are slashed, investment is put on hold, quality programs are shelved, important management functions are shut down, and confrontation arises with labour as hard measures are forced through. Patronage is lost, good working relationships are lost, the development effort of a few decades goes down the drain, and the innovators and developers in the management team are pushed aside for the bean-counters. Instability and down-sizing kill user confidence in a way that takes decades to recover. Chicago seems to be yet another example of the vulnerability of transit once subsidy becomes a significant part of its income stream. I have no moral or economic argument against subsidy for transit - the more public funds the better, if used wisely. However, it is a Faustian Pact, and a day of reckoning eventually comes. Transit planners and managers should think long and hard about the bargains they enter - they owe it to their customers, their city and their workers. With best wishes, Brendan. _________________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: eric.britton@free.fr Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this would be a happier planet. In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency Project at www.climate.newmobility.org , where I hope shortly to post some useful information on these sessions. In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. Eric Britton ----- Original Message ----- From: Sujit Patwardhan Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about Chicago. I was under the impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in providing transit facilities. -- Sujit Here is the news:- To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services-to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into effect on September 16th. From chuwasg at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 17:37:27 2007 From: chuwasg at yahoo.com (chuwa) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sustran] Peak oil and sustainable transportation Message-ID: <472447.21382.qm@web36912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry if this is off-topic. I chanced upon into this article "Life After the Oil Crash" http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/, which talks about the inevitable impact of "Peak Oil" effect. It give me a new sense of urgency to switch to (energy) sustainable way of living, including mode of transportation. The author suggested, big oil companies and automotive related industries are "desperate" to find means to continue their unsustainable business model. Sooner or later, the hard limit (Peak Oil) will hit and there will be no escape. Quick switch over to sustainable transportation should help to soften the negative of "Peak Oil". Ironical but may be true, giving up automotive industry can help to extend the life of oil companies. From etts at indigo.ie Mon Sep 3 17:47:50 2007 From: etts at indigo.ie (Brendan Finn) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:47:50 +0100 Subject: [sustran] Re: Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free References: <404D44BB0E904B1D93B876E2EED776B8@joey> Message-ID: <015701c7ee07$1c7267f0$3201a8c0@finn> Dear Eric, I think we are at cross-purposes here. Let me spell out the two main concerns I have about free or under-priced transit : 1) Sooner or later, an incoming government will change the ground rules and either pull the funding or deregulate the market, with devastating and long-lasting effect. The only question is whether it will be a drastic shock, or death by a thousand cuts. The issue is vulnerability caused by dependency, and the history of urban areas and public transport is littered with such casualties. 2) Funding free public transport is very inefficient, since a huge amount of money is required just to keep basic services going. But most users have the affordability and willingness to pay fares, especially for a good quality product. (Perhaps the USA is an exception, if only the socially marginalised ride the bus). For example, if bus services in Dublin were free, it would require an annual subsidy of over $200 million just to keep the current service working. Nonetheless, the money is gone just to give them what they have already (and grumble about). Consider, by contrast, the dramatic impact of the same $200 million annually spent on a combination of BRT and bus-lanes, short-term subsidy to launch new routes, more buses to guarantee a seat, customer-care programs, subsidy for revenue losses due to fare integration. Spend the money where it has the most impact, both on the quality of service and capturing the public's attention. Today's public transport already costs money. If you want 'better than car', it's going to cost an awful lot more. People are willing to pay for everything else - bread, shoes, electricity, going to the movies. Finding a balance between what the user pays, and who pays for what (users pay for operations, society invests in infrastructure and improvements) is not 'old-thinking', it's in line with everything else in life. With best wishes, Brendan. _____________________________________________________________________________________ >From Brendan Finn, ETTS Ltd. e-mail : etts@indigo.ie tel : +353.87.2530286 ----- Original Message ----- From: eric.britton@free.fr To: Sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org ; NewMobilityCafe@yahoogroups.com Cc: Brendan Finn (bfinn@singnet.com.sg) ; Brendan Finn (etts@indigo.ie) ; Peter Ekenger ; Amy Malick ; Karl Peet ; WorldTransport@yahoogroups.com ; sujit@vsnl.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:35 AM Subject: Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free With all due respect Brendan, and I do very much appreciate those three important points you bring up (see below), I really do believe that the time has come in which we have to set aside just about all of our traditional thinking and practices about how we finance and deliver transport in cities and in the process come up with a whole new game plan. The Chicago experience, so very typical in many respects, makes it clear above all to me that we simply cannot afford to tinker any longer with the old models, which clearly are not working by any of a thousand balanced criteria. The emerging new model, which many of us here are trying very hard to help bring out from the woodwork, the so-called New Mobility Agenda, is predicated on an entirely different set of assumptions, one of them being that a whole dynamic range of seamless "non-own-car" services are needed, that these can and will be provided by a much broader spectrum of players than in the old binary mobility model, and that one of these has to be a basic underpinning of available-to-all public services which are in effect a "free" or at the very least a fully seamless public utility. And yes of course I am well aware of the abuses that such free services can lead to, and this note will not be the place to elaborate or to defend the basic concept. I might add however that in my view at least the services should not be altogether free, since it is important for many reasons to have full feedback about system use and patronage trends, etc., which means some kind of smart card, and this it seems to me to be fair and good to ask people to pay for. The end goal has to be to get the very great majority of private cars out of the city, and in order to achieve that we are going to have to provide "better than car" mobility systems. Hop-on, hop-off transit is part of this necessary package, an essential foundation stone for the rest. How to pay for it? How to deliver it? And how do you, how do we assure the necessary rigors of good management? What other kinds of services are needed to fill out the mobility spectrum, and what do we need to do to we get them on board? These are the kinds of question that we should be asking ourselves. And finding cities and city leaders who want to get involved in making this new model of transport and society. This has to be a teamwork undertaking Eric Britton PS. Some of you may wish to check out our in-process Reinventing Transport in Cities site at www.climate.newmobility.org. In addition to the Workpad examples, more will appear there shortly on the on-going Chicago rethink. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Brendan Finn Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:42 PM Dear Eric, Sujit, I have argued many times against cheap fare policies (i.e. deliberate under-pricing) and that transit should be as close to self-financing as it can achieve. I have argued three main points: 1) All choice users and many non-choice users have the affordability to pay more than "cheap", and most would be willing to do so for better quality. Under-priced transit uses up the available funds for wealth-transfer, leaving little for quality improvements or reinvestment. Public funds should be spent on service, quality and infrastructure, not on low fares. 2) The vulnerable within society can be supported by subsidising transit passes for them (rather than for all users) and this should be done through welfare funding channels rather than transit funding channels. This better protects the funding source since politicians and administrators would have to overtly remove welfare from those who need it, at risk of heavy political backlash. 3) Cheap fares require heavy subsidies, and these inevitably tend to keep growing. The transit is then totally at the mercy of the funder. Sooner or later, an administration will come in who decides to cut the subsidy program. They can dress it up in many ways - national austerity measures, correct 'inefficiency and profligacy' (as Eric quotes), moving to a user-pays principle, etc., etc. - we are all familiar with these dreaded sea-changes. Tariffs increase dramatically, services are thinned out and quieter routes closed, customer support programs are slashed, investment is put on hold, quality programs are shelved, important management functions are shut down, and confrontation arises with labour as hard measures are forced through. Patronage is lost, good working relationships are lost, the development effort of a few decades goes down the drain, and the innovators and developers in the management team are pushed aside for the bean-counters. Instability and down-sizing kill user confidence in a way that takes decades to recover. Chicago seems to be yet another example of the vulnerability of transit once subsidy becomes a significant part of its income stream. I have no moral or economic argument against subsidy for transit - the more public funds the better, if used wisely. However, it is a Faustian Pact, and a day of reckoning eventually comes. Transit planners and managers should think long and hard about the bargains they enter - they owe it to their customers, their city and their workers. With best wishes, Brendan. _________________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: eric.britton@free.fr Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM Dear Sujit and Sustran friends, Don't think that our Chicago CTA friends have made these moves with joy in their hearts. The fact is that they have been trapped by state legislators (many of whom have their power base in rural and small town areas) who have decided to, in a phrase, "punish the CTA for their inefficiency and profligacy". Typically "old mobility" and terribly wrong headed, but if this were only the only city and agency that this kind of thing were to take place this would be a happier planet. In point of fact I have just come back from a lively week on brainstorming session with a group of more than forty experts and agencies around the table, where we gave our full attention to the possibility of "Reinventing Transport in Chicago". You can see more of that if interested in our New Mobility/Climate Emergency Project at www.climate.newmobility.org , where I hope shortly to post some useful information on these sessions. In the meantime, you may fond some us in the "Workpad" that you will find on the bottom left menu of this site in process. Eric Britton ----- Original Message ----- From: Sujit Patwardhan Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:10 AM While we feel encouraged by the excellent proposals initiated by the Mayor of New York, here is what I got from a friend about Chicago. I was under the impression that Chicago was one of the better cities in the US in providing transit facilities. -- Sujit Here is the news:- To make up for poor revenues in recent years, the Chicago Transit Authority's board has approved *fare hikes *and changes to services-to include the shutting down of 39 bus routes. Bus and off-peak train fares paid in cash will rise from $2 to $2.50. During peak hours, train fares will become $3. The price of the one-day travel pass will increase from $5 to $6; the seven-day pass from $20 to $23; and the 30-day pass from $75 to $84. The changes go into effect on September 16th. From eric.britton at free.fr Mon Sep 3 18:38:33 2007 From: eric.britton at free.fr (eric.britton at free.fr) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:38:33 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free In-Reply-To: <015701c7ee07$1c7267f0$3201a8c0@finn> Message-ID: <56C90397FCEE421C8AA626BACF26C92D@joey> Dear Brendan, I don't want to get overly stuck on the world "free" here, a source probably of more heat than light,. So let me just pop in a few thinking points on this in an attempt to explore all this a bit more and perhaps more creatively; 1. Private cars do not "work" in most of our cities -- so the alternative mobility model should be based on other kinds of services, and specifically a rich range of travel options that together can provide "better than cars" access (and economics) to all concerned. 2. High quality service - which is what we need - is going to cost money. 3. Cities with mobility systems that work well have healthier local commerce, higher real estate values and tax bases than those that do not. 4. "Public transport" (more or less fixed route, fixed schedule services) should be as seamless as we can make it. This means that users should have easy access and that barriers such as fare boxes need to be removed. 5. Well working transport services of all kinds require tight information feedback loops, bringing us straight to smart cards of various types. 6. There are a growing number of cities around the world that are actually delivering free transit services today. And I am rather sure that these are not anomalies nor guilty of soviet-style inefficiencies. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-fare_public_transport for some more on this.. A bit rough but still a useful first point of reference if needed.)) 7. The Paris Carte Orange experience is one interesting experience to ponder (there are plenty of others but what is particularly interesting about the Carte is that it has been around for a long time and has in many ways shown the way). The Carte is financed through a number of revenue streams, of which the actual traveler contribution is less than half. 8. There are, as you and others point out, lots more poor people depending on public transit in most places (the usual captive riders) which certainly suggests that it would be unfair and potentially dangerous to hit them with the full bill for transit. And they deserve high quality transportation. 9. All of which suggest to me that we need to put on our thinking hats and really give attention to new ways of financing and accessing transport. Fortunately the present systems that we have in most places are so terribly expensive and so grossly underperforming on just about all bases, that it is in fact an easy model to improve on. What I am trying to get at here is that we will do very badly if we fail to take these points into account as we rethink our transportation arrangements . Which we very definitely should be doing. Best/Eric -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Finn [mailto:etts@indigo.ie] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free Dear Eric, I think we are at cross-purposes here. Let me spell out the two main concerns I have about free or under-priced transit : 1) Sooner or later, an incoming government will change the ground rules and either pull the funding or deregulate the market, with devastating and long-lasting effect. The only question is whether it will be a drastic shock, or death by a thousand cuts. The issue is vulnerability caused by dependency, and the history of urban areas and public transport is littered with such casualties. 2) Funding free public transport is very inefficient, since a huge amount of money is required just to keep basic services going. But most users have the affordability and willingness to pay fares, especially for a good quality product. (Perhaps the USA is an exception, if only the socially marginalised ride the bus). For example, if bus services in Dublin were free, it would require an annual subsidy of over $200 million just to keep the current service working. Nonetheless, the money is gone just to give them what they have already (and grumble about). Consider, by contrast, the dramatic impact of the same $200 million annually spent on a combination of BRT and bus-lanes, short-term subsidy to launch new routes, more buses to guarantee a seat, customer-care programs, subsidy for revenue losses due to fare integration. Spend the money where it has the most impact, both on the quality of service and capturing the public's attention. Today's public transport already costs money. If you want 'better than car', it's going to cost an awful lot more. People are willing to pay for everything else - bread, shoes, electricity, going to the movies. Finding a balance between what the user pays, and who pays for what (users pay for operations, society invests in infrastructure and improvements) is not 'old-thinking', it's in line with everything else in life. With best wishes, Brendan. From gerd at tokiwa.ac.jp Wed Sep 5 10:15:11 2007 From: gerd at tokiwa.ac.jp (gerd) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:15:11 +0900 Subject: [sustran] Passengers' Safety in Public Transport Message-ID: <46DE031F.5040405@tokiwa.ac.jp> Dear members, Please let me know when you are doing research on passengers' safety in public transport, especially in sexual molestation of commuting passengers. We are in the process of designing a research project and we would like to know who is active in the field. Friendly regards Gerd Ferdinand Kirchhoff -- Gerd Ferdinand Kirchhoff, Prof. Dr. jur. Professor of Victimology (Japan) Criminal Law - Criminology - Victimology ( em., Germany) Graduate School of Victimology and Tokiwa International Victimology Institute Tokiwa University Mito 1 430 1 Miwa, Mito shi, Ibaraki ken, Japan 3108585 phone +81 29 232 2865 ( or 2796) fax +81 29 232 2522 email gerd@tokiwa ac.jp From c_bradshaw at rogers.com Wed Sep 5 22:06:49 2007 From: c_bradshaw at rogers.com (Chris Bradshaw) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:06:49 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: [NewMobilityCafe] Reinventing Transport in Cities: Pillar 1- Public transport should be free References: <404D44BB0E904B1D93B876E2EED776B8@joey> Message-ID: <077401c7efbd$a1499540$0202a8c0@acer56fb35423d> If our goal is "new mobility", we cannot give a "pass" to transit, either to defend the status quo or suggest that everything would improved if it were free. We don't want to fall into a kind of thinking I call "transit correctness." I was a bit surprised to here the terms "transit-captive" and "transit-choice" uncritically mentioned. This, of course means those _without_ a car of their own and those _with_ a car of their own. In reality, it is the car-owner who lacks freedom. To wit: Yeates: > ... the car still costs a lot in fixed costs if left in the garage, but that is the result of having cheap petrol and high fixed costs, rather than the other way round. It is this misbalance between high fixed costs and low variable costs that makes a car-owner work so hard to not leave home without it (and actually fears being further than 50 m from his). And since car-access is a monopoly for private-ownership rather than sharing, people don't have a choice to own just a "little" car. We should be thinking about dividing the poipulation into the the "car-captive" and the "car-choice," or between living car-dependent and living car-lite. I agree that transit should pay its own way, but only if the car pays its own way as well. The only way the latter will happen is if we move to a shared-car regime, in which, naturally, the costs are almost all variable, so that each use of the car is to be resisted. Further, a shared-car regime provides little need for the car-travel that is stimuated by the need to take a car with you in order to have it available if a need arises, since shared cars are available everywhere. With the high-tech components carshare organizations naturally add to their cars, it is easy to charge users peak-hour congestion charges, area-congestion charges, and to limit speeding and other congestion-exacerbating behaviour (illegally turning left, blocking drivers behind). And it will allow for one-way uses and spontaneous ride-sharing (as opposed to the stodgy risesharing for regular commutes) that could allow transfers between rideshare vehicles and transit. (And, it would provide on-demand car-access to the people who have arrived at the job without a personal car!) If that could happen, bus service to the suburbs (residences and business "parks") could be replaced by ridesharing in these types of vehicles. Such a scenario would mean that transit in the city core would, as Jane Jacobs suggested in her last book, Dark Age Ahead, not need subsidy at all, and the other service would be totally privately provided by carshare organizations (CSOs). I am presenting this vision -- and its contributions to walkability -- to WALK21 in Toronto in early October. Chris Bradshaw Ottawa From litman at vtpi.org Thu Sep 6 22:52:56 2007 From: litman at vtpi.org (Todd Alexander Litman) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:52:56 -0700 Subject: [sustran] VTPI NEWS - Summer 2007 Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070906065239.0764cb98@mail.islandnet.com> ----------- VTPI NEWS ----------- Victoria Transport Policy Institute "Efficiency - Equity - Clarity" ------------------------------------- Summer 2007 Vol. 10, No. 3 ----------------------------------- The Victoria Transport Policy Institute is an independent research organization dedicated to developing innovative solutions to transportation problems. The VTPI website (http://www.vtpi.org ) has many resources addressing a wide range of transport planning and policy issues. VTPI also provides consulting services. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ONLINE TDM ENCYCLOPEDIA ======================== The VTPI "Online TDM Encyclopedia" (http://www.vtpi.org/tdm ) is a comprehensive information resource to help identify and evaluate innovative management solutions to transport problems, available for free on our website. Many of the chapters have recently been updated with new information. The Encyclopedia has a new feature titled, "Organizations and Stakeholder Groups" (http://www.vtpi.org/tdm/index.php#stakeholders ). This section indicates the best mobility management strategies for various types of organizations and stakeholder groups, including businesses, and local, state/provincial and federal government agencies. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SMART TRANSPORTATION EMISSION REDUCTIONS ==================================== Many governments and organizations are now evaluating climate change emission reduction options. There are many possible ways to reduce transportation emissions, but some provide far more total benefits than others. Emission reduction strategies that reduce vehicle travel also reduce congestion, roadway and parking costs, accidents and sprawl. "Win-Win Transportation Solutions" are cost-effective, technically feasible market reforms that help solve transportation problems by improving mobility options and removing market distortions that stimulate excessive motor vehicle travel. They provide many economic, social and environmental benefits. If implemented to the degree economically justified, our analysis indicates that Win-Win solutions could achieve the transport component of Kyoto emission reduction targets while supporting other economic and social objectives. Critics are wrong to claim that meeting emission reduction goals would harm the economy: by choosing the right strategies we can achieve both environmental goals and economic development goals. However, conventional tends to consider a limited set of impacts and so tends to undervalue Win-Win strategies. Only by applying more comprehensive analysis can their full benefits be recognized. VTPI has updated its reports concerning Win-Win strategies. For more information: "Win-Win Emission Reduction Strategies: Smart Transportation Strategies Can Achieve Emission Reduction Targets And Provide Other Important Economic, Social and Environmental Benefits," (http://www.vtpi.org/wwclimate.pdf ) "Win-Win Transportation Solutions: Cooperation for Economic, Social and Environmental Benefits," (http://www.vtpi.org/winwin.pdf ) "Efficient Vehicles Versus Efficient Transportation: Comparing Transportation Energy Conservation Strategies," (http://www.vtpi.org/cafe.pdf ). NEW DOCUMENTS ============== "Guide To Calculating Mobility Management Benefits" (http://www.vtpi.org/tdmben.pdf ) This Guide provides instructions for estimating the benefits of a specific Mobility Management (also called Transportation Demand Management or TDM) strategy or program. "Evaluating Accessibility for Transportation Planning" (http://www.vtpi.org/access.pdf ). This paper discusses the concept of 'accessibility' and how it can be incorporated in transport planning. Many factors affect accessibility, including mobility (physical movement), the quality and affordability of transport options, transport system connectivity, mobility substitutes, and land use patterns. More comprehensive analysis of accessibility in planning expands the scope of potential solutions to transport problems. "Build for Comfort, Not Just Speed: Valuing Service Quality Impacts In Transport Planning" (http://www.vtpi.org/quality.pdf ) This paper examines practical ways to evaluate qualitative transport improvements such as increased convenience, comfort and security in transport planning. Conventional transport planning and evaluation practices tend to focus on quantitative impacts and undervalue qualitative impacts. Improving qualitative analysis can expand the range of impacts and options considered in transport evaluation, leading to better planning decisions. "Evaluating Transportation Affordability" (http://www.vtpi.org/affordability.pdf ) This paper investigates the concept of 'transportation affordability,' its importance to society, how to evaluate it for transport planning, and practical ways to improve it. Conventional planning tends to consider a relatively limited range of transport affordability impacts and objectives. More comprehensive analysis can help decision makers better understand affordability impacts and identify more effective strategies for improving transport affordability. "Pay-As-You-Drive Pricing in British Columbia: Backgrounder" (http://www.vtpi.org/paydbc.pdf ). Pay-As-You-Drive (PAYD) pricing means that a vehicle?s insurance premiums and registration fees are based directly on the amount it is driven. PAYD pricing is particularly appropriate in British Columbia because the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia (ICBC) insures all vehicles in the province and has a mandate to maximize social benefits, including traffic safety, insurance affordability and emission reductions (due to the province?s aggressive climate change emission reduction targets). This short paper describes PAYD, summarizes its history in BC, and describes how PAYD pricing can help achieve provincial objectives. This is part of a new campaign to encourage ICBC to implement a PAYD pilot project to evaluate the concept. "Designing Pay-Per-Mile Auto Insurance Regulatory Incentives Using the NHTSA Light Truck CAFE Rule as a Model" (http://www.vtpi.org/07-3457.pdf ), by Allen Greenberg This paper, presented at the 2007 Transportation Research Board annual meeting, describes the concept of Pay-As-You-Drive-And-You-Save (PAYDAYS) insurance, which converts premiums into distance-based fees, and evaluates its value as an energy conservation strategy based on the method used by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to develop new fuel economy rules for light trucks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UPDATED DOCUMENTS ============== "Pavement Busters Guide: Why and How to Reduce the Amount of Land Paved for Roads and Parking Facilities," (www.vtpi.org/pavbust.pdf ) This guide identifies ways to reduce the amount of land devoted to roads and parking facilities. It identifies current policies and planning practices that unintentionally contribute to economically excessive road and parking requirements, and specific strategies for reducing the amount of land paved for roads and parking facilities. This analysis indicates that road and parking pavement area can often be reduced in ways that are cost effective and maintain adequate levels of accessibility. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UPCOMING EVENTS ================ VTPI will participate in these upcoming events: 'A City Built for Everyone: A Sustainable, Equitable and Smart Transportation Forum,' Sustainable Calgary (http://www.sustainablecalgary.ca ) September 29, 2007, Calgary, Alberta 'WALK21 2007 - Putting Pedestrians First' (http://www.toronto.ca/walk21 ) October 1st To 4th, Toronto, Canada Walk21 Toronto 2007 is the 8th annual conference on walkable and livable communities. Monday, Oct. 1, all day workshop, 'Measuring walking: Towards internationally standardized monitoring methods of walking and public space' Wednesday, Oct. 3, 10:45-11:15, 'Economic Value of Walking' Wednesday, Oct. 3, 2:00-3:30, 'Can You Spy the Signs: How Walking with Children Can Change the World' (Suzanne Kort-Litman) Cotter Debate on Transportation Policy and the Environment (http://www.colby.edu/news_events/calendar ) Monday October 8, 2007, 7:00 p.m. Debate between Todd Litman (Victoria Transport Policy Institute) and Samuel Staley (Reason Foundation) Canadian TDM Summit (http://www.actcanada.com/EN/Conference2007 ) November 25-28, 2007, Calgary, Alberta ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ USEFUL RESOURCES ================= 'Sustainable Transportation Indicators Listserve' The Transportation Research Board?s Sustainable Transportation Indicators Subcommittee (ADD40[1]) now has an active listserve. We are currently working to develop recommendations for a preferred definition of sustainable transportation, and development of a recommended set of indicators, which could be adopted by TRB. This list is open to anybody interested in these issues. To subscribe, go to http://lists.cutr.usf.edu/read/?forum=sti . The GTZ "Sustainable Transport Sourcebook" is now available in HTML format (http://www.sutp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=566&Itemid=40&lang=en ). These versions are identical in content (and virtually identical in format) to the PDF versions, but easier to download with low band width Internet. "Bus Rapid Transit Planning Guide" (http://www.itdp.org/STe/ste24/new_pub.html ). After over two years of effort, 800 pages of text, and nearly 1000 images and graphics. The document is currently in English, but it will be translated to Spanish, Portuguese, French, Chinese, and Indonesian. "Transit Oriented Development; Chapter 17, Travel Response To Transportation System Changes," (http://www.trb.org/TRBNet/ProjectDisplay.asp?ProjectID=1034 ), by John E. Evans and Richard H. Pratt. This latest volume of this comprehensive study of factors that affect travel behavior. It indicates that transit-oriented development can provide significant reductions in per capita vehicle ownership and use, and increase walking and public transit travel. "WalkScore" (http://www.WalkScore.com) automatically calculates a neighborhood?s walkability rating by identifying the distance to public services such as grocery stores and schools. It works for any street address in the United States of America and Canada, assigning points based on the distance to local amenities, using Google maps and business listings. "Economics of Travel Demand Management: Comparative Cost Effectiveness and Public Investment" (www.nctr.usf.edu/pdf/77704.pdf ). This document by the Center for Urban Transportation Research provides guidelines for applying benefit/cost analysis to mobility management programs. It describes TRIMMS (Trip Reduction Impacts for Mobility Management Strategies), a software program that automates economic evaluation. "Impact of Employer-based Programs on Transit System Ridership and Transportation System Performance," (http://www.nctr.usf.edu/pdf/77605.pdf). This study by the Center for Urban Transportation Research uses a traffic model to evaluate the impacts of Commute Trip Reduction programs on transportation system performance. It finds that such programs can provide significant reductions in traffic congestion delay and fuel consumption. "Getting Up To Speed (GUTS): A Conservationist?s Guide to Wildlife and Highways," (http://www.GettingUpToSpeed.org) provides a foundation for evaluating roadway environmental impacts and incorporating this information into transport planning. "Economic Benefits of Land Conservation" (www.tpl.org/content_documents/econbens_landconserve.pdf ). This document by the Trust for Public Lands describes how land conservation and parks can help communities grow smart, attract investment, revitalize cities, boost tourism, protect farms and ranches, prevent flood damage, and safeguard the environment. It includes monetized estimates of some impacts. "Portland?s Green Dividend," (http://www.ceosforcities.org/internal/files/PGD%20FINAL.pdf ), by Joe Cortright. This study by CEOs for Cities finds that as a result of innovative transportation and land use policies, Portland, Oregon area residents drive about 20% fewer annual miles and use alternative modes about twice as much as in comparable cities, and as a result enjoy various benefits, including more regional economic development, consumer cost savings, reduced air pollution, better health and more livable urban neighborhoods. Also see, 'Less driving is more cash for Portland' "The Oregonian" (http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1187576751202450.xml&coll=7 ) "Smart Parking Seminar ? Developing Policies for Your Community" (http://www.mtc.ca.gov/planning/smart_growth/parking_seminar.htm ), by the San Francisco region Metropolitan Transportation Commission. This website contains materials developed for a training seminar on parking policies to support smart growth. The Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP) has an excellent e-newsletter called Sustainable Transport (http://www.itdp.org/STe/index.html ). Ian W. H. Parry, Margaret Walls and Winston Harrington (2007), Automobile Externalities and Policies, (http://www.rff.org/rff/Documents/RFF-DP-06-26-REV.pdf ) This paper discusses the nature, and magnitude, of externalities associated with automobile use, including local and global pollution, oil dependence, traffic congestion and traffic accidents. It discusses current federal policies affecting these externalities, including fuel taxes, fuel-economy and emissions standards, and alternative fuel policies; discusses emerging pricing policies, including congestion tolls, and pay-as-you-drive insurance reform; and summarizes what appears to be the appropriate combination of policies to address automobile externalities. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please let us know if you have comments or questions about any information in this newsletter, or if you would like to be removed from our email list. And please pass this newsletter on to others who may find it useful. Sincerely, Todd Alexander Litman Victoria Transport Policy Institute (www.vtpi.org) litman@vtpi.org Phone & Fax 250-360-1560 1250 Rudlin Street, Victoria, BC, V8V 3R7, CANADA ?Efficiency - Equity - Clarity? From eric.britton at free.fr Sun Sep 9 15:43:40 2007 From: eric.britton at free.fr (eric.britton at free.fr) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 08:43:40 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Reinventing Transport in Cities: 2007-2012 - collaborative project and invitation Message-ID: <6F638986C2E3473382D5AA919734F33A@joey> Dear Sustran friends, This is to inform you about our latest collaborative new mobility project: Reinventing Transport in Cities: 2007-2012. You will see it at - http://www.invent.newmobility.org . Why do I take your valuable time with this information this morning? Three reasons, in brief: * First, it is my hope that even as it stands (eternally incomplete and in process) I hope you will find it a useful resource in support of your own work. * Second, to invite your comments and suggestions for making it clearer and better. These you might want to pass on to me privately, and perhaps later I can provide a summary of these ideas and share them with the group as a whole. * And finally, because I would very much like to hope that in a few cases at least this might lead in time to a collaborative project, either perhaps in your city or region,, or via some kind of network or agency. That after all is what the whole things is about. The bottom line. If you would agree to share this with your colleagues and various lists and networks, and perhaps also some of our media friends - after all this is such a hot and important topic - well that would be much appreciated, There you have it. Grist I hope for your good mill. Let me know what you think we can do with this. With all good wishes, Eric Britton Reinventing Transportation in Cities - at http://www.invent.newmobility.org/ Europe : 8/10 rue Joseph Bara, 75006 Paris, France. T: +331 4326 1323 USA : 9440 Readcrest Dr., Los Angeles, CA 90210. T: +1 310 601-8468 E. eric.britton@ecoplan.org. E2. fekbritton@gmail.com Skype: newmobility The Commons: A wide open, world-wide open society forum concerned with improving our understanding and control of technology as it impacts on people in our daily lives. Seeking out and pioneering new transformational concepts for concerned citizens, activists, community groups, entrepreneurs and business. Supporting local government as that closest to the people and the problems. Increasing the uncomfort zone for hesitant administrators and politicians. And through our long term world wide collaborative efforts, energy and personal choices, placing them and ourselves firmly on the path to a more sustainable and more just world. From edelman at greenidea.info Sun Sep 9 23:51:07 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:51:07 +0200 Subject: [sustran] BRAZIL: Ethanol Divides Agribusiness Message-ID: <46E4085B.4050501@greenidea.info> *RIO VERDE, Brazil, Sep 8 (IPS/IFEJ) - The expansion of sugarcane farming to produce more ethanol in Brazil has run into unexpected resistance in Rio Verde, a prosperous town in the central state of Goi?s, and it is coming from agribusiness leaders. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39191 * The local government, of the conservative Progressive Party, decided to impose a limit on sugarcane to 10 percent of the municipality's farmland. That represents 50,000 hectares, eight times the area already planted with sugarcane in Rio Verde, to supply an old distillery that produced fuel alcohol, or ethanol. The measure, demanded by agribusiness leaders, was proposed by Mayor Paulo Roberto Cunha and approved unanimously by the municipal Council. Sugarcane monoculture is "a green tsunami that is breaking the agribusiness productive chain" and causes "social tragedies" as well as environment problems if it is not controlled, Avelar Macedo, secretary of industry and commerce, and promoter of the restrictions, said in an interview. The municipal law, in force since September 2005, also prohibits planting sugarcane less than 50 meters from water sources and burning sugarcane chaff within 20 kilometres of urban areas, near environmentally protected areas or near power lines or highways. The union of local officials and business leaders defends the "diversified activities" that they say led to an average 30-percent economic growth in the municipality since 2001, according to the Commerce and Industry Association. Rio Verde has a soybean oil industry, whose by-product, the bran, is used as cattle feed. Maize supplies more than 1,600 poultry and hog farms, which in turn supply Perdig?o, a group that seven years ago set up the largest meat processing complex in Latin America and created 7,600 direct jobs, and 35,000 indirect jobs, according to Macedo. Sorghum, beans, rice and cotton are other important products for the municipality, generating a broad market for tractors, machinery, and other farm inputs. Agroindustry has also fomented the production of containers -- metal, plastic and cardboard. The result is a city of 136,000 people without obvious poverty -- nobody asking for money on the streets -- and many signs of prosperity, such as brisk commercial and banking activity on the main avenue. There are four university institutions, which draw students from nearby towns. This agro-industrial chain, "which adds value locally," is threatened by the "euphoria for ethanol," said Macedo. The sugarcane industry does not benefit the population because it mainly offers temporary, low-paid work, and generally purchases its machinery and inputs from foreign suppliers, he explained. Its expansion poses a threat because the farmers are "decapitalised" by low commodity prices and the unfavourable exchange on the dollar in the last few years, so they are more vulnerable to offers from sugarcane or ethanol producers to rent or buy their land, warned Macedo, who is himself a landowner and entrepreneur in the construction and tourism sectors. Sugarcane could bring progress in the northern part of Goi?s state, where there is an "economic vacuum", but the industry would rather take advantage of existing infrastructure in the south, where Rio Verde is located, he said. The law that turned Rio Verde into a national reference point, taken as an example by dozens of other municipality governments worried about monoculture, is being challenged in court by the Goi?s syndicate of alcohol manufacturers, SIFAEG. The group charges that the law is unconstitutional because it violates private property rights and infringes on national jurisdiction. The legal battle likely will last several years, agree both sides. Sugarcane is grown on 290,000 to 300,000 hectares in Goi?s, or just 0.8 percent of the state's territory, and with maximum expansion predicted to reach 2.0 percent, which is less than one-third of the area planted with soybeans, says SIFAEG president Igor Montenegro. In the next five years, 20 more distilleries could be added to the existing 18 in operation, "without threatening the grains". That expansion would require a small portion of the "immense area that could be freed up" by a simple improvement in livestock management, which currently covers 57 percent of Goi?s territory in "low-productivity pastures," he said. Montenegro hopes to counteract the "unfounded hysteria" among economic sectors that have nothing to fear "if they are competitive and profitable." The sugarcane agro-industry, he assures, is the one that "offers most jobs in agribusiness. One million direct and six million indirect" across Brazil. And they are less and less temporary and more skilled jobs, with an increasingly mechanised harvest, he added. In fact, it would not be necessary to deforest areas in order to expand cane fields or grain crops in Goi?s, agrees Emiliano Godoi, agronomist and head of biodiversity and forests for the state's environment secretariat. But the tradition is "to open new pastureland" instead of recovering the degraded land, which is why sugarcane is pushing the agricultural frontier into the forests. This is a threat to the Cerrado, the savannah of unique forests that cover a large part of central Brazil. It is a biome heavily affected by agricultural expansion but has received little attention in terms of knowledge about it and its conservation. In Goi?s, conservation areas make up just 4.9 percent of state territory, "which is very little, but five years ago it was just one percent," said Godoi. Furthermore, most municipalities fail to comply with legislation that requires maintaining at least 20 percent of land with its original, native vegetation intact. But his concern about sugarcane is "more social than environmental." During the harvest season, May to November, the small towns receive a flood of cane cutters who come from distant parts of the country, and there is a rise in prostitution and unplanned pregnancies. The burning of cane fields to facilitate cutting pollutes the air, which causes respiratory illnesses. The problems accumulate and overburden the services of city governments of limited resources, said Godoi. The pollution from the burning in Goi?s is more harmful than the air pollution in Sao Paulo state, Brazil's leading producer of sugar and alcohol, because the atmosphere of the Cerrado in these months is very dry and keeps the concentrated particulate material suspended longer, he said. In addition there is the particulate matter from the poor sanitation systems in most of the state's cities. (*This story is part of a series of features on sustainable development by IPS-Inter Press Service and IFEJ-International Federation of Environmental Journalists.) (END/2007) -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From carlosfpardo at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 01:39:20 2007 From: carlosfpardo at gmail.com (Carlos F. Pardo) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:39:20 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Revised gender and urban transport module Message-ID: <46E57338.80309@gmail.com> Dear colleagues, Based on the feedback received from various professionals, and other comments on the gender and urban transport module, the authors have reviewed the document and have made important modifications to its full contents. Please go to our website to download the new version of the module (in section 7). You can access it from the address of our sourcebook: http://www.sutp.org/content/view/426/72/lang,uk/ Best regards, -- Carlos F. Pardo Coordinador de Proyecto- Project Coordinator GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC) Cl 93A # 14-17 of 708 Bogot? D.C., Colombia Tel/fax: +57 (1) 236 2309 Mobile: +57 (3) 15 296 0662 carlos.pardo@sutp.org www.sutp.org From edelman at greenidea.info Sat Sep 15 03:10:36 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:10:36 +0200 Subject: [sustran] BBC: Send in videos and photos which show how YOU commute to work Message-ID: <46EACE9C.2070206@greenidea.info> * How do you commute to work?* We want to see your videos of your daily commute. What is your commute like? For many it's a daily grind of crowded trains, trams and buses. For others it's a chance for contemplation, a bit of peace and quiet. The BBC is looking for videos and photos of people commuting to work, all over the world.We'll be using these pictures to create a special short film - made up entirely of content sent in by you. When it is ready we will show it on the BBC News website and on BBC World. See for how to send video, conditions, etc. -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From edelman at greenidea.info Sun Sep 16 10:48:53 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:48:53 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Fwd: Re: Carfree Day in India? Message-ID: <46EC8B85.6010604@greenidea.info> Anyone have info on Carfree Day activities in India? See below... -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "J.H. Crawford" Subject: Fwd: Re: [carfree_cities] Carfree day Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:35:11 -0500 Size: 4772 Url: http://list.jca.apc.org/public/sustran-discuss/attachments/20070916/b888d4e5/carfree_citiesCarfreeday.eml From eric.britton at ecoplan.org Mon Sep 17 16:00:35 2007 From: eric.britton at ecoplan.org (eric.britton) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:00:35 +0200 Subject: [sustran] GoLoco discussion and commentary (ride-sharing, digital hitchhiking) Message-ID: This is a discussion that is to take place over in the Lots Less Cars list. Thought it might interest some of you: * List address: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LotsLessCars/ * To post message: LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com * To subscribe: LotsLessCars-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -----Original Message----- From: eric.britton [mailto:eric.britton@ecoplan.org] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com' Subject: GoLoco discussion and commentary I propose a public discussion here of and invite your comments and suggestions on Robin Chase's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Chase ) new GoLoco ride-sharing service of which you have a brief introduction below and full information at www.goloco.org. GoLoco: How does it work? 1. Post a trip -- want to go to the beach? shopping? daily commute? out of town? -- for your friends, colleagues, or classmates to see. 2. View profiles of people whose trips match your own. Decide if you'd like to travel with them. 3. Accept a trip as is, or negotiate changes online. 4. Meet up at a specific location and time. You can use GoLoco to share rides for free. Or you can choose to share trip costs quickly and easily online before the trip without the awkward money discussion or exchange in the car. GoLoco collects each passenger's share of the total trip costs before the trip begins and transfers it to the driver using online accounts. We charge a 10 percent transaction fee. * * * I see GoLoco as one pioneering example of a very important class of new mobility services which we call xTransit (see www.xtransit.org ), and of course the sub-class ride-sharing. And within that, a further sub-class that we call "digital hitchhiking". The stack in our nomenclature, if you will, looks like this, from the more general at the top down then getting more specific. 1. Movement 2. Transport(ation), mobility, logistics 3. Sustainable transport 4. New mobility 5. xTransit 6. Ride-sharing 7. Digital hitchhiking By way of historical curiosity I thought some of you might be interested to see an early example of this last, in the form of a 1978 proposal form this end for a service which we then called CHARM: Computer-Helped Area-Wide Regional Mobility system, which I disinterred this morning and attach just in case you feel like a quick trip through a transportation/technology museum. I look forward very much to this discussion, and would ask you to share this note with others, and lists, who you think may share our interests. Eric Britton PS. It would be great if Robin might in parallel share with us any articles of thinkpeices she might have on her concept and implementation, including status information if available Again, all that over at Lots Less Cars. From lwright at vivacities.org Tue Sep 18 03:39:22 2007 From: lwright at vivacities.org (Lloyd Wright) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:39:22 -0500 Subject: [sustran] Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation Message-ID: <002001c7f95a$136be740$6500a8c0@Nikita> Interesting article on how the Bush administration does not consider the bicycle to be a form of transporation... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827 The bicycle thief Bike activists face an uphill climb against Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, who claims bike paths are not transportation and are stealing tax money from bridges and roads. By Katharine Mieszkowski Photo: AP/Wide World Salon composite of Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters. Sept. 14, 2007 | Imagine you're the federal official in the Bush administration charged with overseeing the nation's transportation infrastructure. A major bridge collapses on an interstate highway during rush hour, killing 13 people and injuring an additional 100. Whom to blame? How about the nation's bicyclists and pedestrians! The Minneapolis bridge collapse on Aug. 1 led Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters to publicly reflect on federal transportation spending priorities and conclude that those greedy bicyclists and pedestrians, not to mention museumgoers and historic preservationists, hog too much of the billions of federal dollars raised by the gas tax, money that should go to pave highways and bridges. Better still, Peters, a 2006 Bush appointee, apparently doesn't see biking and walking paths as part of transportation infrastructure at all. In an Aug. 15 appearance on PBS's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," Peters spoke against a proposal to raise gas taxes to shore up the nation's aging infrastructure. The real problem, the secretary argued, is that only 60 percent of the current money raised by gas taxes goes to highways and bridges. She conveniently neglected to mention that about 30 percent of the money goes to public transit. She then went on to blast congressional earmarks, which dedicate 10 percent of the gas tax to some 6,000 other projects around the country. "There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure," she said. The secretary added that projects like bike paths and trails "are really not transportation." Peters' comments set off an eruption of blogging, e-mailing and letter-writing among bike riders and activists, incensed that no matter how many times they burn calories instead of fossil fuels with the words "One Less Car" or "We're Not Holding Up the Traffic, We Are the Traffic" plastered on their helmets, their pedal pushing is not taken seriously as a form of transportation by the honchos in Washington, D.C. Bike paths are not infrastructure? "There are hundreds of thousands of people who ride to work, and millions who walk to work every day, and the idea [that] that isn't transportation is ludicrous," says Andy Clarke, executive director of the League of American Bicyclists, who has biked to work for almost 20 years on a path paid for with federal dollars. Clarke fired off an angry letter to Peters, and invited the 25,000 members of his organization around the country to do the same. "The guy in his Humvee taking his videos back to the video store isn't any more legitimate a trip than the guy on the Raleigh taking his videos back," says Andy Thornley, program director for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition. In fact, only about 1.5 percent of federal transportation dollars go to fund bike paths and walking trails. In the meantime, 10 percent of all U.S. trips to work, school and the store occur on bike or foot, and bicyclists and pedestrians account for about 12 percent of annual traffic fatalities, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "We represent a disproportionate share of the injuries, and we get a minuscule share of the funds," says Robert Raburn, executive director of the East Bay Bike Coalition in the San Francisco Bay Area, who calls the Peters' comments "outrageous." Plus, he notes, with problems like global warming, the obesity epidemic and energy independence, shouldn't the U.S. secretary of transportation be praising biking, not complaining about it? What really drives cyclists around the bend is that while they're doing their part to burn less fossil fuel -- cue slogan: "No Iraqis Died to Fuel This Bike" -- they're getting grief for being expensive from a profligate administration. "War spending, tax cuts for the rich, and gas taxes are all big sources of funding. Bike spending is not," fumes Michael Bluejay, an Austin, Texas, bike activist, in an e-mail. "The few pennies we toss toward bike projects is not enough to fix our nation's bridges, not by a freaking long shot." One of the many communities that benefit from federal dollars for bicyclists and pedestrians is the very one where the bridge collapsed. For the St. Paul, Minn., program Bike/Walk Twin Cities, administered by Transit for Livable Communities, $21.5 million of federal dough is being spent to create bike lanes, connect existing walking and biking trails with one another, and install signage to alert drivers of the presence of bicyclists and walkers. Despite the cold winters, Minneapolis is something of a biking Mecca, with 2.4 percent of all trips to work made by bike, significantly higher than the national average of 0.4 percent, according to Joan Pasiuk, program director of Bike/Walk Twin Cities. It's hard to argue that walking paths and bike trails are robbing federal coffers when states can't even spend all the federal money they've received to repair bridges in the first place. In 2006, state departments of transportation sent back $1 billion in unspent bridge funds to the federal government, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "The fact that there is a billion dollars of bridge repair money sloshing around in the system not being spent suggests that it's not the fault of bike trails," says Clarke. Congressional Democrats agree. "It's a red herring to point to bike paths and even imply that if we didn't build another bike path we'd have all the money we need to fix our highways and bridges," says Jim Berard, communications director for the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. "You can't build very many bridges with the amount of money that you would save if you didn't build any bike paths." So why is Peters suddenly taking on bikes and pedestrians? Her comments are especially odd since she sang the praises of bikes as transportation in a speech at the National Bike Summit in Washington, in March 2002. Has she simply forgotten the glory of two wheels? One theory: Peters is on a campaign to quash the idea of raising the gas tax, as she editorialized recently in the Washington Post. A key proponent of raising the gas tax to fund bridge restorations in the wake of the Minneapolis bridge collapse is Democratic Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota, who has advocated for bike and pedestrian paths in his district. By putting a culture-war spin on the bridge collapse, Peters is hoping to run his gas tax proposal off the road. Does Peters herself buy this theory? Does she really think that bike paths do not qualify as transportation infrastructure? Why does she say that things like bike paths steal money from bridge repairs when states have more than enough money to fix bridges? The secretary would not respond, but Jennifer Hing, a spokesperson for the Department of Transportation's Office of Public Affairs in the Office of the Secretary, would. She answered all the specific questions with one resoundingly uninformative e-mail: "The federal government should set high standards for and invest in the ongoing safety, reliability and interconnection of the nation's transportation network. State and local communities should have the flexibility to then set local transportation priorities." For their part, cyclists have been weaving through political land mines for decades. In the perennial struggle to gain public support for bike paths, they remain philosophical. Says Thornley of the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition: "Before there were automobiles, and after there will be automobiles, there will be bicycles moving people around for transportation." Lloyd Wright Executive Director Viva Robles 653 y Av. Amazonas Oficinas 601-602-603 Quito Ecuador Tel. +593 2 255 1492 Mobile +593 9 577 6500 Fax +44 871 263 8779 Email lwright@vivacities.org Web www.vivacities.org "Viva...changing the world one street at a time." From schipper at wri.org Tue Sep 18 03:47:41 2007 From: schipper at wri.org (Lee Schipper) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:47:41 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation Message-ID: <46EE938D020000380001C3FA@HERMES.wri.org> Does this mean i can no longer cycle to meetings at DOT? >>> "Lloyd Wright" 09/17/07 2:39 PM >>> Interesting article on how the Bush administration does not consider the bicycle to be a form of transporation... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827 The bicycle thief Bike activists face an uphill climb against Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, who claims bike paths are not transportation and are stealing tax money from bridges and roads. By Katharine Mieszkowski Photo: AP/Wide World Salon composite of Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters. Sept. 14, 2007 | Imagine you're the federal official in the Bush administration charged with overseeing the nation's transportation infrastructure. A major bridge collapses on an interstate highway during rush hour, killing 13 people and injuring an additional 100. Whom to blame? How about the nation's bicyclists and pedestrians! The Minneapolis bridge collapse on Aug. 1 led Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters to publicly reflect on federal transportation spending priorities and conclude that those greedy bicyclists and pedestrians, not to mention museumgoers and historic preservationists, hog too much of the billions of federal dollars raised by the gas tax, money that should go to pave highways and bridges. Better still, Peters, a 2006 Bush appointee, apparently doesn't see biking and walking paths as part of transportation infrastructure at all. In an Aug. 15 appearance on PBS's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," Peters spoke against a proposal to raise gas taxes to shore up the nation's aging infrastructure. The real problem, the secretary argued, is that only 60 percent of the current money raised by gas taxes goes to highways and bridges. She conveniently neglected to mention that about 30 percent of the money goes to public transit. She then went on to blast congressional earmarks, which dedicate 10 percent of the gas tax to some 6,000 other projects around the country. "There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure," she said. The secretary added that projects like bike paths and trails "are really not transportation." Peters' comments set off an eruption of blogging, e-mailing and letter-writing among bike riders and activists, incensed that no matter how many times they burn calories instead of fossil fuels with the words "One Less Car" or "We're Not Holding Up the Traffic, We Are the Traffic" plastered on their helmets, their pedal pushing is not taken seriously as a form of transportation by the honchos in Washington, D.C. Bike paths are not infrastructure? "There are hundreds of thousands of people who ride to work, and millions who walk to work every day, and the idea [that] that isn't transportation is ludicrous," says Andy Clarke, executive director of the League of American Bicyclists, who has biked to work for almost 20 years on a path paid for with federal dollars. Clarke fired off an angry letter to Peters, and invited the 25,000 members of his organization around the country to do the same. "The guy in his Humvee taking his videos back to the video store isn't any more legitimate a trip than the guy on the Raleigh taking his videos back," says Andy Thornley, program director for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition. In fact, only about 1.5 percent of federal transportation dollars go to fund bike paths and walking trails. In the meantime, 10 percent of all U.S. trips to work, school and the store occur on bike or foot, and bicyclists and pedestrians account for about 12 percent of annual traffic fatalities, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "We represent a disproportionate share of the injuries, and we get a minuscule share of the funds," says Robert Raburn, executive director of the East Bay Bike Coalition in the San Francisco Bay Area, who calls the Peters' comments "outrageous." Plus, he notes, with problems like global warming, the obesity epidemic and energy independence, shouldn't the U.S. secretary of transportation be praising biking, not complaining about it? What really drives cyclists around the bend is that while they're doing their part to burn less fossil fuel -- cue slogan: "No Iraqis Died to Fuel This Bike" -- they're getting grief for being expensive from a profligate administration. "War spending, tax cuts for the rich, and gas taxes are all big sources of funding. Bike spending is not," fumes Michael Bluejay, an Austin, Texas, bike activist, in an e-mail. "The few pennies we toss toward bike projects is not enough to fix our nation's bridges, not by a freaking long shot." One of the many communities that benefit from federal dollars for bicyclists and pedestrians is the very one where the bridge collapsed. For the St. Paul, Minn., program Bike/Walk Twin Cities, administered by Transit for Livable Communities, $21.5 million of federal dough is being spent to create bike lanes, connect existing walking and biking trails with one another, and install signage to alert drivers of the presence of bicyclists and walkers. Despite the cold winters, Minneapolis is something of a biking Mecca, with 2.4 percent of all trips to work made by bike, significantly higher than the national average of 0.4 percent, according to Joan Pasiuk, program director of Bike/Walk Twin Cities. It's hard to argue that walking paths and bike trails are robbing federal coffers when states can't even spend all the federal money they've received to repair bridges in the first place. In 2006, state departments of transportation sent back $1 billion in unspent bridge funds to the federal government, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "The fact that there is a billion dollars of bridge repair money sloshing around in the system not being spent suggests that it's not the fault of bike trails," says Clarke. Congressional Democrats agree. "It's a red herring to point to bike paths and even imply that if we didn't build another bike path we'd have all the money we need to fix our highways and bridges," says Jim Berard, communications director for the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. "You can't build very many bridges with the amount of money that you would save if you didn't build any bike paths." So why is Peters suddenly taking on bikes and pedestrians? Her comments are especially odd since she sang the praises of bikes as transportation in a speech at the National Bike Summit in Washington, in March 2002. Has she simply forgotten the glory of two wheels? One theory: Peters is on a campaign to quash the idea of raising the gas tax, as she editorialized recently in the Washington Post. A key proponent of raising the gas tax to fund bridge restorations in the wake of the Minneapolis bridge collapse is Democratic Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota, who has advocated for bike and pedestrian paths in his district. By putting a culture-war spin on the bridge collapse, Peters is hoping to run his gas tax proposal off the road. Does Peters herself buy this theory? Does she really think that bike paths do not qualify as transportation infrastructure? Why does she say that things like bike paths steal money from bridge repairs when states have more than enough money to fix bridges? The secretary would not respond, but Jennifer Hing, a spokesperson for the Department of Transportation's Office of Public Affairs in the Office of the Secretary, would. She answered all the specific questions with one resoundingly uninformative e-mail: "The federal government should set high standards for and invest in the ongoing safety, reliability and interconnection of the nation's transportation network. State and local communities should have the flexibility to then set local transportation priorities." For their part, cyclists have been weaving through political land mines for decades. In the perennial struggle to gain public support for bike paths, they remain philosophical. Says Thornley of the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition: "Before there were automobiles, and after there will be automobiles, there will be bicycles moving people around for transportation." Lloyd Wright Executive Director Viva Robles 653 y Av. Amazonas Oficinas 601-602-603 Quito Ecuador Tel. +593 2 255 1492 Mobile +593 9 577 6500 Fax +44 871 263 8779 Email lwright@vivacities.org Web www.vivacities.org "Viva...changing the world one street at a time." From edelman at greenidea.info Tue Sep 18 04:13:56 2007 From: edelman at greenidea.info (Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:13:56 +0200 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation In-Reply-To: <46EE938D020000380001C3FA@HERMES.wri.org> References: <46EE938D020000380001C3FA@HERMES.wri.org> Message-ID: <46EED1F4.5010609@greenidea.info> Hi Lee, It means that when you go to those meeting you should wear lycra, cycling shoes, expensive sunglasses, etc... to make a statement that cycling is only "sport"... - T Lee Schipper wrote: > Does this mean i can no longer cycle to meetings at DOT? > > >>>> "Lloyd Wright" 09/17/07 2:39 PM >>> >>>> > > Interesting article on how the Bush administration does not consider the > bicycle to be a form of transporation... > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827 > > > The bicycle thief > > > Bike activists face an uphill climb against Transportation Secretary > Mary Peters, who claims bike paths are not transportation and are > stealing tax money from bridges and roads. > > By Katharine Mieszkowski > > > > > > Photo: AP/Wide World > > Salon composite of Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters. > > Sept. 14, 2007 | Imagine you're the federal official in the Bush > administration charged with overseeing the nation's transportation > infrastructure. A major bridge collapses on an interstate highway during > rush hour, killing 13 people and injuring an additional 100. Whom to > blame? How about the nation's bicyclists and pedestrians! > > The Minneapolis bridge collapse on Aug. 1 led Secretary of > Transportation Mary Peters to publicly reflect on federal transportation > spending priorities and conclude that those greedy bicyclists and > pedestrians, not to mention museumgoers and historic preservationists, > hog too much of the billions of federal dollars raised by the gas > tax, money that should go to pave > highways and bridges. Better still, Peters, a 2006 Bush appointee, > apparently doesn't see biking and walking paths as part of > transportation > infrastructure at all. > > In an Aug. 15 > _08-15.html> appearance on PBS's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," Peters > spoke against a proposal to raise gas taxes to shore up the nation's > aging infrastructure. The real problem, the secretary argued, is that > only 60 percent of the current money raised by gas taxes goes to > highways and bridges. She conveniently neglected to mention that about > 30 percent of the money goes to public transit. She then went on to > blast congressional earmarks, which dedicate 10 percent of the gas tax > to some 6,000 other projects around the country. "There are museums that > are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing > lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is > being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure," she said. The > secretary added that projects like bike paths and trails "are really not > transportation." > > Peters' comments set off an eruption of blogging, e-mailing and > letter-writing among bike riders and activists, incensed that no matter > how many times they burn calories instead of fossil fuels with the words > "One Less Car" or "We're Not Holding Up the Traffic, We Are the Traffic" > plastered on their helmets, their pedal pushing is not taken seriously > as a form of transportation by the honchos in Washington, D.C. > > Bike paths are not infrastructure? "There are hundreds of thousands of > people who ride to work, and millions who walk to work every day, and > the idea [that] that isn't transportation is ludicrous," says Andy > Clarke, executive director of the League > of American Bicyclists, who has biked to work for almost 20 years on a > path paid for with federal dollars. Clarke fired off an angry letter to > Peters, and invited the 25,000 members of his organization around the > country to do the same. "The guy in his Humvee taking his videos back to > the video store isn't any more legitimate a trip than the guy on the > Raleigh taking his videos back," says Andy Thornley, program director > for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition. > > In fact, only about 1.5 percent of federal transportation dollars go to > fund bike paths and walking trails. In the meantime, 10 percent of all > U.S. trips to work, school and the store occur on bike or foot, and > bicyclists and pedestrians account for about 12 percent of annual > traffic fatalities, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "We > represent a disproportionate share of the injuries, and we get a > minuscule share of the funds," says Robert Raburn, executive director of > the East Bay Bike Coalition in the San Francisco > Bay Area, who calls the Peters' comments "outrageous." Plus, he notes, > with problems like global > warming, the obesity epidemic > and energy independence, shouldn't the U.S. secretary of transportation > be praising biking, not complaining about it? > > What really drives cyclists around the bend is that while they're doing > their part to burn less fossil fuel -- cue slogan: "No Iraqis Died to > Fuel This Bike" -- they're getting grief for being expensive from a > profligate administration. "War spending, tax cuts for the rich, and gas > taxes are all big sources of funding. Bike spending is not," fumes > Michael Bluejay, an Austin, Texas, bike > activist, in an e-mail. "The few pennies we toss toward bike projects is > not enough to fix our nation's bridges, not by a freaking long shot." > > One of the many communities that benefit from federal dollars for > bicyclists and pedestrians is the very one where the bridge collapsed. > For the St. Paul, Minn., program > .html> Bike/Walk Twin Cities, administered by > Transit for Livable Communities, $21.5 > million of federal dough is being spent to create bike lanes, connect > existing walking and biking trails with one another, and install signage > to alert drivers of the presence of bicyclists and walkers. Despite the > cold winters, Minneapolis is something of a biking Mecca, with 2.4 > percent of all trips to work made by bike, significantly higher than the > national average of 0.4 percent, according to Joan Pasiuk, program > director of Bike/Walk Twin Cities. > > It's hard to argue that walking paths and bike trails are robbing > federal coffers when states can't even spend all the federal money > they've received to repair bridges in the first place. In 2006, state > departments of transportation sent back $1 billion in unspent bridge > funds to the federal government, according to the > Federal > Highway Administration. "The fact that there is a billion dollars of > bridge repair money sloshing around in the system not being spent > suggests that it's not the fault of bike trails," says Clarke. > > Congressional Democrats agree. "It's a red herring to point to bike > paths and even imply that if we didn't build another bike path we'd have > all the money we need to fix our highways and bridges," says Jim Berard, > communications director for the House Committee on Transportation and > Infrastructure. "You can't build very many bridges with the amount of > money that you would save if you didn't build any bike paths." > > So why is Peters suddenly taking on bikes and pedestrians? Her comments > are especially odd since she sang the praises of bikes as transportation > in a speech at the > National Bike Summit in Washington, in March 2002. Has she simply > forgotten the glory of two wheels? One theory: Peters is on a campaign > to quash the idea of raising the gas tax, as she editorialized recently > in the > 82401697.html> Washington Post. A key proponent of raising the gas tax > to fund bridge restorations in the wake of the Minneapolis bridge > collapse is Democratic Rep. > Jim Oberstar of > Minnesota, who has advocated for bike and pedestrian paths in his > district. By putting a culture-war spin on the bridge collapse, Peters > is hoping to run his gas tax proposal off the road. > > Does Peters herself buy this theory? Does she really think that bike > paths do not qualify as transportation infrastructure? Why does she say > that things like bike paths steal money from bridge repairs when states > have more than enough money to fix bridges? The secretary would not > respond, but Jennifer Hing, a spokesperson for the Department of > Transportation's Office of Public Affairs in the Office of the > Secretary, would. She answered all the specific questions with one > resoundingly uninformative e-mail: "The federal government should set > high standards for and invest in the ongoing safety, reliability and > interconnection of the nation's transportation network. State and local > communities should have the flexibility to then set local transportation > priorities." > > For their part, cyclists have been weaving through political land mines > for decades. In the perennial struggle to gain public support for bike > paths, they remain philosophical. Says Thornley of the San Francisco > Bicycle Coalition: "Before there were automobiles, and after there will > be automobiles, there will be bicycles moving people around for > transportation." > > > Lloyd Wright > Executive Director > Viva > Robles 653 y Av. Amazonas > Oficinas 601-602-603 > Quito > Ecuador > Tel. +593 2 255 1492 > Mobile +593 9 577 6500 > Fax +44 871 263 8779 > Email lwright@vivacities.org > Web www.vivacities.org > > "Viva...changing the world one street at a time." > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. > > Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. > > ================================================================ > SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). > > -- -------------------------------------------- Todd Edelman Director Green Idea Factory Korunn? 72 CZ-10100 Praha 10 Czech Republic Skype: toddedelman ++420 605 915 970 ++420 222 517 832 edelman@greenidea.eu http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/photos/edelman Green Idea Factory is a member of World Carfree Network www.worldcarfree.net From whook at itdp.org Tue Sep 18 04:17:04 2007 From: whook at itdp.org (Walter Hook) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:17:04 -0400 Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation In-Reply-To: <46EE938D020000380001C3FA@HERMES.wri.org> Message-ID: <00c201c7f95f$55c01710$3601a8c0@DFJLYL81> This is an oversimplification of a complex debate on the hill. The stupid comment about bike paths not withstanding, I am glad she is criticizing earmarks, most of which are road pork. She has been pushing for more tolling and supportive of congestion charging, (fed support is key to our chances for nyc congestion charges, and democratic pork politicians like Oberstar and road lobby stalwarts like highway and transit subcommiteee chair democrat de fazio of Oregon tried to kill it. Oberstar is great on money for bike lanes but also presided over massive highway pork spending. To me the solution is a fix it first law modeled in new jersey that would restrict federal funding for new roads and bridges till the existing ones are all in a state of good repair. -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Lee Schipper Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:48 PM To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org; lwright@vivacities.org; carfree_cities@yahoogroups.com Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation Does this mean i can no longer cycle to meetings at DOT? >>> "Lloyd Wright" 09/17/07 2:39 PM >>> Interesting article on how the Bush administration does not consider the bicycle to be a form of transporation... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827 The bicycle thief Bike activists face an uphill climb against Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, who claims bike paths are not transportation and are stealing tax money from bridges and roads. By Katharine Mieszkowski Photo: AP/Wide World Salon composite of Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters. Sept. 14, 2007 | Imagine you're the federal official in the Bush administration charged with overseeing the nation's transportation infrastructure. A major bridge collapses on an interstate highway during rush hour, killing 13 people and injuring an additional 100. Whom to blame? How about the nation's bicyclists and pedestrians! The Minneapolis bridge collapse on Aug. 1 led Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters to publicly reflect on federal transportation spending priorities and conclude that those greedy bicyclists and pedestrians, not to mention museumgoers and historic preservationists, hog too much of the billions of federal dollars raised by the gas tax, money that should go to pave highways and bridges. Better still, Peters, a 2006 Bush appointee, apparently doesn't see biking and walking paths as part of transportation infrastructure at all. In an Aug. 15 appearance on PBS's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," Peters spoke against a proposal to raise gas taxes to shore up the nation's aging infrastructure. The real problem, the secretary argued, is that only 60 percent of the current money raised by gas taxes goes to highways and bridges. She conveniently neglected to mention that about 30 percent of the money goes to public transit. She then went on to blast congressional earmarks, which dedicate 10 percent of the gas tax to some 6,000 other projects around the country. "There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure," she said. The secretary added that projects like bike paths and trails "are really not transportation." Peters' comments set off an eruption of blogging, e-mailing and letter-writing among bike riders and activists, incensed that no matter how many times they burn calories instead of fossil fuels with the words "One Less Car" or "We're Not Holding Up the Traffic, We Are the Traffic" plastered on their helmets, their pedal pushing is not taken seriously as a form of transportation by the honchos in Washington, D.C. Bike paths are not infrastructure? "There are hundreds of thousands of people who ride to work, and millions who walk to work every day, and the idea [that] that isn't transportation is ludicrous," says Andy Clarke, executive director of the League of American Bicyclists, who has biked to work for almost 20 years on a path paid for with federal dollars. Clarke fired off an angry letter to Peters, and invited the 25,000 members of his organization around the country to do the same. "The guy in his Humvee taking his videos back to the video store isn't any more legitimate a trip than the guy on the Raleigh taking his videos back," says Andy Thornley, program director for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition. In fact, only about 1.5 percent of federal transportation dollars go to fund bike paths and walking trails. In the meantime, 10 percent of all U.S. trips to work, school and the store occur on bike or foot, and bicyclists and pedestrians account for about 12 percent of annual traffic fatalities, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "We represent a disproportionate share of the injuries, and we get a minuscule share of the funds," says Robert Raburn, executive director of the East Bay Bike Coalition in the San Francisco Bay Area, who calls the Peters' comments "outrageous." Plus, he notes, with problems like global warming, the obesity epidemic and energy independence, shouldn't the U.S. secretary of transportation be praising biking, not complaining about it? What really drives cyclists around the bend is that while they're doing their part to burn less fossil fuel -- cue slogan: "No Iraqis Died to Fuel This Bike" -- they're getting grief for being expensive from a profligate administration. "War spending, tax cuts for the rich, and gas taxes are all big sources of funding. Bike spending is not," fumes Michael Bluejay, an Austin, Texas, bike activist, in an e-mail. "The few pennies we toss toward bike projects is not enough to fix our nation's bridges, not by a freaking long shot." One of the many communities that benefit from federal dollars for bicyclists and pedestrians is the very one where the bridge collapsed. For the St. Paul, Minn., program Bike/Walk Twin Cities, administered by Transit for Livable Communities, $21.5 million of federal dough is being spent to create bike lanes, connect existing walking and biking trails with one another, and install signage to alert drivers of the presence of bicyclists and walkers. Despite the cold winters, Minneapolis is something of a biking Mecca, with 2.4 percent of all trips to work made by bike, significantly higher than the national average of 0.4 percent, according to Joan Pasiuk, program director of Bike/Walk Twin Cities. It's hard to argue that walking paths and bike trails are robbing federal coffers when states can't even spend all the federal money they've received to repair bridges in the first place. In 2006, state departments of transportation sent back $1 billion in unspent bridge funds to the federal government, according to the Federal Highway Administration. "The fact that there is a billion dollars of bridge repair money sloshing around in the system not being spent suggests that it's not the fault of bike trails," says Clarke. Congressional Democrats agree. "It's a red herring to point to bike paths and even imply that if we didn't build another bike path we'd have all the money we need to fix our highways and bridges," says Jim Berard, communications director for the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. "You can't build very many bridges with the amount of money that you would save if you didn't build any bike paths." So why is Peters suddenly taking on bikes and pedestrians? Her comments are especially odd since she sang the praises of bikes as transportation in a speech at the National Bike Summit in Washington, in March 2002. Has she simply forgotten the glory of two wheels? One theory: Peters is on a campaign to quash the idea of raising the gas tax, as she editorialized recently in the Washington Post. A key proponent of raising the gas tax to fund bridge restorations in the wake of the Minneapolis bridge collapse is Democratic Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota, who has advocated for bike and pedestrian paths in his district. By putting a culture-war spin on the bridge collapse, Peters is hoping to run his gas tax proposal off the road. Does Peters herself buy this theory? Does she really think that bike paths do not qualify as transportation infrastructure? Why does she say that things like bike paths steal money from bridge repairs when states have more than enough money to fix bridges? The secretary would not respond, but Jennifer Hing, a spokesperson for the Department of Transportation's Office of Public Affairs in the Office of the Secretary, would. She answered all the specific questions with one resoundingly uninformative e-mail: "The federal government should set high standards for and invest in the ongoing safety, reliability and interconnection of the nation's transportation network. State and local communities should have the flexibility to then set local transportation priorities." For their part, cyclists have been weaving through political land mines for decades. In the perennial struggle to gain public support for bike paths, they remain philosophical. Says Thornley of the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition: "Before there were automobiles, and after there will be automobiles, there will be bicycles moving people around for transportation." Lloyd Wright Executive Director Viva Robles 653 y Av. Amazonas Oficinas 601-602-603 Quito Ecuador Tel. +593 2 255 1492 Mobile +593 9 577 6500 Fax +44 871 263 8779 Email lwright@vivacities.org Web www.vivacities.org "Viva...changing the world one street at a time." -------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE to everyone who gets sustran-discuss messages via YAHOOGROUPS. Please go to http://list.jca.apc.org/manage/listinfo/sustran-discuss to join the real sustran-discuss and get full membership rights. The yahoogroups version is only a mirror and 'members' there cannot post to the real sustran-discuss (even if the yahoogroups site makes it seem like you can). Apologies for the confusing arrangement. ================================================================ SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred, equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries (the 'Global South'). From ericbruun at verizon.net Tue Sep 18 06:34:57 2007 From: ericbruun at verizon.net (ericbruun at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:34:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [sustran] Funding solutions Message-ID: <25800101.16972081190064897556.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net> Walter I doubt that laws prohibiting money to be spent on new construction until everything existing is up to standard would work. First, standards would be downgraded to allow them to be built. (This trick is already being used, the Minnesota bridge was judged borderline acceptable for years). Second, money is fungible, so that other money would be used for new construction instead, money that could otherwise go to transit, water supplies, schools, etc. (This trick is already being used, too.) Although it is almost impossible to get through Congress, a better solution would be to give federal funds to Metropolitan Planning Associations instead of to State governments. Eric Bruun From: Walter Hook Date: 2007/09/17 Mon PM 02:17:04 CDT To: 'Lee Schipper' , sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org, lwright@vivacities.org, carfree_cities@yahoogroups.com Cc: 'Michael Replogle' Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation This is an oversimplification of a complex debate on the hill. The stupid comment about bike paths not withstanding, I am glad she is criticizing earmarks, most of which are road pork. She has been pushing for more tolling and supportive of congestion charging, (fed support is key to our chances for nyc congestion charges, and democratic pork politicians like Oberstar and road lobby stalwarts like highway and transit subcommiteee chair democrat de fazio of Oregon tried to kill it. Oberstar is great on money for bike lanes but also presided over massive highway pork spending. To me the solution is a fix it first law modeled in new jersey that would restrict federal funding for new roads and bridges till the existing ones are all in a state of good repair. -----Original Message----- From: sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+whook=itdp.org@list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Lee Schipper Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:48 PM To: sustran-discuss@list.jca.apc.org; lwright@vivacities.org; carfree_cities@yahoogroups.com Subject: [sustran] Re: Fw: Bicycles are not a form of transportation Does this mean i can no longer cycle to meetings at DOT? >>> "Lloyd Wright" 09/17/07 2:39 PM >>> Interesting article on how the Bush administration does not cons