[sustran] Re: Fwd: BRT in Beijing online video -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2c4YWnyfM

[Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory]

Lee,

In my view you have no place asking a question like this since Shell - 
one of the main benefactors of EMBARQ - LOVES it - if semi-secretly - 
that automobilisation is on the increase in China.

I am not trying to do make a personal attack... but please, let's be real.

All of this 
<http://www.shell.com/home/content/china-en/society_environment/dir_socialinvestment_1030.html> 
should not be balanced against the other activities of the company nor 
their competition. It is totally insignificant.

I could make suggestions... e.g. Shell would be okay if on a worldwide 
basis they only sold energy to public transport and carshare, etc. but 
then of course I would be called naive because the competition would 
take advantage and so on. As I tried to say here 
<http://greenideafactory.blogspot.com/2007/10/shell-nominated-for-worst-greenwash.html> 
Shell simply does not care about sustainability in its full form.

And EMBARQ is a greenwashing exercise.

If I am kicked off the list for this comment, it is worth it. I don't 
enjoy writing a letter like this. But I enjoy even less being polite and 
thus silent.

- T



Lee Schipper wrote:
> I just came back from Shanghai. They are not building a BRT network. They have 5 (soon 6) Metro lines.
> Traffic is awful...
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> There seems no sentiment to do anything to slow cars down, to enforce speeding laws, to apply congestion pricing. Sure there is an increasing supply of public transit, but it is not taking modal share from cars apparently, rather from bikes and walkers. And the E-bikes are everywhere.
>
> So where do we go from here, or rather, where does China go from here? Will the Beijing Olympics or Shanghai Expo 2010 be socked in by bad traffic and foul air?
>
> Lee
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sustran-discuss-bounces+schipper=wri.org at list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+schipper=wri.org at list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Paul Barter
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:02 PM
> To: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
> Subject: [sustran] Fwd: BRT in Beijing online video -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2c4YWnyfM
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> This may be of interest to sustran-discussers.
> Paul
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: MarkusHeller <MarkusHeller>
> Date: 16 Nov 2007 15:50
> Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] BRT in Beijing online video -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2c4YWnyfM
> To: NewMobilityCafe at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: info at autofrei-wohnen.de, info at goldminesfilm.com, Peter Ekenger <
> peter.ekenger at telia.com>
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>    [Thanks to Markus Heller and several others for passing this on. Very
> nice touch. Let me say this: it's real food for thought. Bon appétit. Eric
> Britton]
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>>> Hi Markus,
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>>> I live in Beijing and do a video blog here. Our latest piece is about
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>>> transport in Beijing and includes an extended portion about BRT in
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>>> spread accross China. Beijing is building one of the world's bigger
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>>> BRT networks and there are twenty cities in China with BRT in various
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>>> Here's the permanent link to the BRT video
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>>> http://www.sexybeijing.tv/new/video.asp?id=59
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>>> Here's the youtube link
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>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2c4YWnyfM
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>>> Thanks!
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>>> Luke Mines
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>>> Producer
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>>> Goldmines Film Beijing
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>>> Tel  +86 10 6415 3961
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>>> http://www.sexybeijing.tv
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