[sustran] Re: Indian roads - planes, cows, elephants, mosques
Zvi Leve
zvi at inro.ca
Fri May 4 23:59:07 JST 2007
Carlos,
I have enjoyed very much reading VS Naipul
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VS_Naipul>'s books about India. He is a
well-known writer of 'travel literature' (he recently won the Nobel
prize for literature) and has a very good perception of cultural issues.
He is of Indian descent, but has never lived in India, although he has
travelled there extensively. I have read his books Among the Believers:
An Islamic Journey
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_the_Believers:_An_Islamic_Journey>,
which is about his travels in the Islamic areas of Asia (including India
and Pakistan), and also India: A Million Mutinies Now
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India:_A_Million_Mutinies_Now>, which is
only about India. I think that he has newer material about these areas
as well. He is very opinionated and not everyone appreciates his views,
but I think that he is an excellent writer.
One of these days I hope to make it over there myself....
Best regards,
Zvi
Madhav Badami, Prof. wrote:
> Dear Carlos,
>
> Once the craziness of the academic term comes to an end, I promise a
> detailed response to Jonathan Richmond's (and others') postings on the
> situation in India (and what we can and ought to do about it). I will
> try and work elephants, cows and yoga -- but not planes -- into my
> response as well :-). Meanwhile, I will leave you with this personal
> viewpoint ... India is like life itself -- joyous, sometimes sublime,
> and at the very same time, very messy, even obscene, but never ever
> dull and boring.
>
> Madhav
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> *On Behalf Of *Carlos F. Pardo
> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2007 9:42 AM
> *To:* Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
> *Subject:* [sustran] Indian roads - planes, cows, elephants, mosques
>
> We had the chance to be in India (Delhi, Chandigarh, Pune) last week,
> working in a BRT training course with the SUTP project, ITDP and World
> Bank (which was very useful). Parallel to the workshop I would go
> walking around to see these cities. This news from a plane in the
> middle of a road reminded me of some other issues I saw:
>
> - A mosque as wide as the sidewalk (Delhi), "blocking" the way for
> pedestrians,
> - An elephant walking on a major arterial,
> - The typical cows in roundabouts or roads,
> - The classic situation of the "chaotic" Indian intersection.
>
> This has all made me think deeper about the recent discussion started
> by J. Richmond. Is it institutions? Is it a deeply culturally rooted
> characteristic of Indians? Is it religion, yoga or whatever? I bought
> a book on Indian culture which I've started reading to see if I find
> any answers. I would really like to hear from people in India their
> point of view on why they think this happens. Being from Colombia, I'm
> completely lost trying to understand this.
>
> Best regards,
> Carlos
>
>
> Roselle Rivera wrote:
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>> *
>> something (amusing/very bothering?) on transport.
>> Bad and irresponsible planning? or planned tourist attraction?
>> *
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>>
>> ** The Boeing 737 stuck in city road **
>> Residents of the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay) are wondering how
>> long it will take to remove a disused Boeing 737 that has been
>> abandoned in a busy road.
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