[sustran] Re: Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 31, Issue 11

Dibu Sengupta dsengupta at gmail.com
Sat Mar 18 00:19:35 JST 2006


And this malaise is spreading fast, not just in Bangalore or Pune but in the
smaller towns as well. Foreign companies introducing new brands of cars,
giving off low interest payments and people making a beeline for a new
symbol of social status.

That's where transit authorities and the local jurisdictions come to the
picture. Utilization charges mentioned by Sunny are probably the best way to
tackle this automobile explosion!

Regards,

Dibu Sengupta
Transportation Engineer
VHB, Inc.


On 3/17/06, Guevarra, Joselito Lomada <cvegjl at nus.edu.sg> wrote:
>
> You are absolutely right. A lot of cars running on the street does not
> necessarily equate to prosperity in a particular country. Rather, it is
> a symptom of larger malaise in which people cannot depend, or will not
> depend, on public transport to take them to where they want to go. For
> example, in the Philippines, the dream is to own a car because of the
> sorry state of public transport and the pollution that go with it. It is
> not uncommon for a middle class family of, say 5, to own 5 cars or maybe
> more (to circumvent the so-called color coding where certain plate
> numbers are banned on certain days)! Owning a car is not a luxury
> anymore but a necessity...in this case anyway...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joselito L. Guevarra
> Research Engineer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sustran-discuss-bounces+cvegjl=nus.edu.sg at list.jca.apc.org
> [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+cvegjl=nus.edu.sg at list.jca.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of Sunny
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:02 PM
> To: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
> Subject: [sustran] Sustran-discuss Digest, Vol 31, Issue 11
>
> In my opinion spending money on cars will not denote the prosperity of
> the city or people. Nowadays a car in India can be owned not only by
> full payment but also in instalments which is  providing  a scope for
> the middle class to enjoy the benefits of the car. On the other hand the
>
> emissions they produce and their paradigm shift in commutation deprives
> the poor of their native means of transport i.e. the public transport or
>
> the non-motorised means. For example in countries like Singapore, Hong
> Kong are supposed to be richer than their neighbours in Asia have a very
>
> less private mobility and the users are charged for their utilisation.
> Japan, which makes most of the cars, has the highest walking ratio of
> 41%. And even in Germany which is also a big car market has good
> facility for walking and excellent and accessible public transport.
>
> Looking at Public Transportation, I feel that just investing in Public
> transport and buying Mercedes or Volvo buses will not solve the problem
> but the accessibility to the whole transit system in both terms economy
> (ticket prices) and physical and social (nearness, frequency and option
> for vulnerable groups) will be the key for a public transport success.
> If Bangalore can reduce the speed of cars and make the buses faster and
> efficient and accessible, in Litmans words "Efficiency and Equity", the
> transit will be a success and Bangalore can retain its fame of being the
>
> "Garden City" otherwise I am sure if no action is taken, from personal
> inspection in BKK, it is going to become a "Garage City".
>
> Sincerely,
> Sunny
>
> Santhosh Kumar. K
> Faculty of Environment and Resource Studies,
> Mahidol University,
> Thailand
> sksunny at gmail.com
> sunnysanthosh at gmail.com
>
> sustran-discuss-request at list.jca.apc.org wrote:
> > Why are you appalled?  You should celebrate that the people have money
> to spend!!
> >
> > What are you doing in Bangalore?
> >
> > Cheers.  setty.
> >
> > Dr. V. Setty Pendakur
> > Professor Emeritus, University of British Columbia
> > Honorary Professor, China National Academy of Sciences
> > Chair, TRB-ABE90 & Director, ITDP
> >
> > President
> > Pacific Policy and Planning Associates
> > 702--1099 Marinaside Crescent
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> >
>
>
>
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