[sustran] Re: Correction to CNG BRT

[Eric Bruun]

LAC MTA had no choice. It was court ordered to buy CNG, kind of like Delhi.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
>From: Lee Schipper <schipper at wri.org>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 7:04 PM
>To: ericbruun at earthlink.net, sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
>Subject: Re: [sustran] Correction to CNG BRT
>
>which knowlingly costs them more than low sulfer diesel buses?
>
>>>> Eric Bruun <ericbruun at earthlink.net> 2/7/2006 6:21:34 PM >>>
>
>
>I meant to say that all new buses LA County purchases are CNG, not
>BRT.
>
>Eric
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Eric Bruun <ericbruun at earthlink.net>
>>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 6:18 PM
>>To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport
><sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org>, sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
>
>>Subject: CNG BRT
>>
>>
>>
>>Have a look at LA County's Orange Line (www.mta.net). All new buses
>they purchase are BRT, including the Orange Line.
>>
>>Eric Bruun
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Lee Schipper <schipper at wri.org>
>>>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 6:05 PM
>>>To: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org 
>>>Subject: [sustran]  Re: Delhi Metro + Post-Oil BRT + Biogas BRT
>>>
>>>In most Latin American countries, buses are sold from main cities to
>>>smaller ones after around 5-6 years.
>>>
>>>>>> edelman at greenidea.info 2/7/2006 5:37:33 PM >>>
>>>From: Lee Schipper:
>>>
>>>So while your earlier
>>>> comments are certainly valid (lifetime of vehicles, etc) it comes
>>>donw
>>>> ot how ot value the land, the costs, the way the system is paid
>for
>>>(and
>>>> who pays)  and other
>>>> ecnomic and social factors.
>>>
>>>Todd: What I meant with "lifetime of vehicle" comment - and also
>query
>>>about tyre particles - was simply  to make sure that buses last as
>long
>>>as possible, and how to do that... and the same with tyres.
>>>
>>>The envelope should continue to be pushed - it seems to be happening
>>>with the latest engines in regards to using gas, exhaust
>recirculation,
>>>etc. 
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>>Regarding post-peak oil BRT, the thinking for the onboard fuel
>source
>>>is mainly hydrogen, right? How confident is everyone in this? For a
>new
>>>BRT, are owners thinking they will go through two 15-year cycles of
>>>Diesel or gas buses before they make the switch? Or three? Are there
>>>energy-use advantages to getting electricity from an overhead
>caternary
>>>vs. some type of onboard hydrogen system? Are there any trolley-bus
>>>(with caternary) type BRT systems? Are there any BRT systems
>operating
>>>on biogas? (I know that Sweden has about 800 normal city buses
>powered
>>>by biogas, plus one regional train). Are there any CNG BRTs? And if
>so
>>>are they worried about future availability of CNG?
>>>
>>>- T
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Todd Edelman
>>>International Coordinator
>>>On the Train Towards the Future!
>>>
>>>Green Idea Factory
>>>Laubova 5
>>>CZ-13000 Praha 3
>>>
>>>++420 605 915 970
>>>
>>>edelman at greenidea.info 
>>>www.worldcarfree.net/onthetrain 
>>>
>>>Green Idea Factory,
>>>a member of World Carfree Network
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>================================================================
>>>SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred,
>>>equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing
>countries
>>>(the 'Global South'). Because of the history of the list, the main
>focus
>>>is on urban transport policy in Asia.
>>>
>>>
>>>================================================================
>>>SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred,
>equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries
>(the 'Global South'). Because of the history of the list, the main focus
>is on urban transport policy in Asia.
>
>
>
>================================================================
>SUSTRAN-DISCUSS is a forum devoted to discussion of people-centred,
>equitable and sustainable transport with a focus on developing countries
>(the 'Global South'). Because of the history of the list, the main focus
>is on urban transport policy in Asia.