[sustran] Re: Correction to CNG BRT

[Lee Schipper]

which knowlingly costs them more than low sulfer diesel buses?

>>> Eric Bruun <ericbruun at earthlink.net> 2/7/2006 6:21:34 PM >>>


I meant to say that all new buses LA County purchases are CNG, not
BRT.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Bruun <ericbruun at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 6:18 PM
>To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport
<sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org>, sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org

>Subject: CNG BRT
>
>
>
>Have a look at LA County's Orange Line (www.mta.net). All new buses
they purchase are BRT, including the Orange Line.
>
>Eric Bruun
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Lee Schipper <schipper at wri.org>
>>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 6:05 PM
>>To: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org 
>>Subject: [sustran]  Re: Delhi Metro + Post-Oil BRT + Biogas BRT
>>
>>In most Latin American countries, buses are sold from main cities to
>>smaller ones after around 5-6 years.
>>
>>>>> edelman at greenidea.info 2/7/2006 5:37:33 PM >>>
>>From: Lee Schipper:
>>
>>So while your earlier
>>> comments are certainly valid (lifetime of vehicles, etc) it comes
>>donw
>>> ot how ot value the land, the costs, the way the system is paid
for
>>(and
>>> who pays)  and other
>>> ecnomic and social factors.
>>
>>Todd: What I meant with "lifetime of vehicle" comment - and also
query
>>about tyre particles - was simply  to make sure that buses last as
long
>>as possible, and how to do that... and the same with tyres.
>>
>>The envelope should continue to be pushed - it seems to be happening
>>with the latest engines in regards to using gas, exhaust
recirculation,
>>etc. 
>>
>>---
>>
>>Regarding post-peak oil BRT, the thinking for the onboard fuel
source
>>is mainly hydrogen, right? How confident is everyone in this? For a
new
>>BRT, are owners thinking they will go through two 15-year cycles of
>>Diesel or gas buses before they make the switch? Or three? Are there
>>energy-use advantages to getting electricity from an overhead
caternary
>>vs. some type of onboard hydrogen system? Are there any trolley-bus
>>(with caternary) type BRT systems? Are there any BRT systems
operating
>>on biogas? (I know that Sweden has about 800 normal city buses
powered
>>by biogas, plus one regional train). Are there any CNG BRTs? And if
so
>>are they worried about future availability of CNG?
>>
>>- T
>>
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>>
>>Todd Edelman
>>International Coordinator
>>On the Train Towards the Future!
>>
>>Green Idea Factory
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>>
>>edelman at greenidea.info 
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>>
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>>
>>
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