[sustran] CNG BRT

Eric Bruun ericbruun at earthlink.net
Wed Feb 8 08:18:29 JST 2006



Have a look at LA County's Orange Line (www.mta.net). All new buses they purchase are BRT, including the Orange Line.

Eric Bruun


-----Original Message-----
>From: Lee Schipper <schipper at wri.org>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2006 6:05 PM
>To: sustran-discuss at list.jca.apc.org
>Subject: [sustran]  Re: Delhi Metro + Post-Oil BRT + Biogas BRT
>
>In most Latin American countries, buses are sold from main cities to
>smaller ones after around 5-6 years.
>
>>>> edelman at greenidea.info 2/7/2006 5:37:33 PM >>>
>From: Lee Schipper:
>
>So while your earlier
>> comments are certainly valid (lifetime of vehicles, etc) it comes
>donw
>> ot how ot value the land, the costs, the way the system is paid for
>(and
>> who pays)  and other
>> ecnomic and social factors.
>
>Todd: What I meant with "lifetime of vehicle" comment - and also query
>about tyre particles - was simply  to make sure that buses last as long
>as possible, and how to do that... and the same with tyres.
>
>The envelope should continue to be pushed - it seems to be happening
>with the latest engines in regards to using gas, exhaust recirculation,
>etc. 
>
>---
>
>Regarding post-peak oil BRT, the thinking for the onboard fuel source
>is mainly hydrogen, right? How confident is everyone in this? For a new
>BRT, are owners thinking they will go through two 15-year cycles of
>Diesel or gas buses before they make the switch? Or three? Are there
>energy-use advantages to getting electricity from an overhead caternary
>vs. some type of onboard hydrogen system? Are there any trolley-bus
>(with caternary) type BRT systems? Are there any BRT systems operating
>on biogas? (I know that Sweden has about 800 normal city buses powered
>by biogas, plus one regional train). Are there any CNG BRTs? And if so
>are they worried about future availability of CNG?
>
>- T
>
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>Todd Edelman
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