[sustran] Re: STREAM Info, request and Happy New Year Greetings

[guillen at sk.tsukuba.ac.jp]

Hello Everyone,

Before anything else, here's wishing everyone a properous and happy new year!

Id like to share that recently, there was this  International Symposium on
Sustainable Transport in East Asian Megacities (STREAM) here in Tokyo,
Japan.
Urban transport  situation and issues of Bangkok, Metro Manila, Ho Chi
Minh, Taipei, Shanghai, Jakarta, Seoul and Tokyo were presented and
discussed by each representative. Some of the representatives were either
those who have been part of JICA studies of their countries and/or
government official.Relevant issues forwarded were the future of
motorcycles and BRT. Some information can be found here
:http://www.jterc.or.jp/~reserch/stream/people.htm Ill try to share more
once I get the copies of the slide presentations.

For Nguyen, perhaps, it would be nice if you also keep in touch with some
of the people involved in the master plan of Ho Chi Minh City and or to
the officials who are involved in the implementation of such plans and how
this is receive by the public.


For Mr. Craig Johnson, Im interested to get an e-copy of your paper
on"Streetwise Sustainability:A Two Wheel
Alternative to balance Motorization and Streetlife". Thanks in advance.

Again, here's for a great and sustainable transport new year ahead!

Cheers,
Danielle

Marie Danielle V. Guillen
Urban Transportation Lab.
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences
University of Tsukuba
Tsukuba City, Japan



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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: thesis topic (Jonathan E. D. Richmond)
>    2. Re: regarding thesis topic HCMC (Craig Johnson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:09:46 +0100 (Romance Standard Time)
> From: "Jonathan E. D. Richmond" <richmond at alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: [sustran] Re: thesis topic
> To: Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
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> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Roselle Rivera wrote:
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>> Dear Nguyen of Mahidol University, Thailand
>>
>> The city streets of Vietnam were very very beautiful  years
>> back..........with the poetry of the cadence of people on their
>> bicycles...........
>
> It is very nice to think of such things romantically, but it was a time of
> poverty and lack of opportunities.
>
>> no noise pollution, no air pollution...............
>> before the nightmare of the motorcycles began.............Progress, so
>> they say.........
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> Yes, motorcycles do constitute major progress: they mean freedom for
> people to go about as they please! Why should this be restricted to people
> who can afford cars?
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>>
>> Have you seen the master plan for transportation for HCMC?
>> Does it have anything serious to say about non motorized transport in
>> the
>> whole scheme?
>> ( You said your background is environmental science........NMT is
>> definitely very environmental........)
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> And also not something to force on people who do not want it.
>
> Yes, it can have a very important role in Bangladesh, but Vietnam is not
> Bangladesh.
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>> Based on the experiences of many developing countries, most master plans
>> are not the end all, be all blueprints anyway.
>> In many cases, there is some space for maneuvering somehow, somewhere.
>>
>
> In most cases, master plans are pipe dreams. In most cases, far too much
> priority is given to the automobile, and far too little to viable
> alternatives. And virtually nothing is said about the need to provide
> individual mobility to the mass of the population, who find the sole
> available answer in the motorbike!
>
> Best --Jonathan!
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>
>> Would really want to be informed. Please share with us in  this
>> egroup some insights on this  master plan, especially knowing that JICA
>> "helped"  craft it.
>>
>>
>> maraming salamat ( thank you in pilipino)
>>
>> roselle
>>
>>
>> ROSELLE LEAH K RIVERA
>> PhD Fellow
>> Institute of Social Studies
>> Kortenaerkade 12
>> 2518 AX
>> The Hague, Netherlands
>> Office Tel: +31 70 4260428
>> Fax: +31 70 4260507
>> Mobile: +31 627315444
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> My name is Nguyen Anh Dung, from Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC), Vietnam and I
>> also want to do my master thesis (will start at the mid of 2007) about
>> transportation for HCMC. As you know, traffic is really a problem in my
>> country and it is getting worse. The recent  accidents of two famous
>> professors (1 of US - got injured and 1 of Vietnam - dead) are just few
>> among thousands of accidents every year (almost all caused by
>> motorcycle).
>>
>> According to what I read on the net, HCMC has its master plan for
>> transportation (done with the help from Japan International Cooperation
>> Agency - JICA in 2004) and the authority wants to build a metro for the
>> city also.
>>
>> Because of the master plan, I am not quite sure what my master thesis
>> can
>> do anything else about this field. Any idea is highly appreciated.
>>
>> My background is environmental science.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Nguyen Anh Dung
>> Faculty of Environment and Resource Studies.
>> Mahidol University, ThaiLand.
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:59:55 -0500
> From: "Craig Johnson" <Craig.Johnson at edaw.com>
> Subject: [sustran] Re: regarding thesis topic HCMC
> To: <Global 'South' Sustainable Transport
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> Dung,
> I have read the transportation masterplan for Hanoi and HCMC.
> Unfortunately, despite the huge percentage of motorbikes in the
> streets. Neither of the plans adequately address motorbike
> transportation that is so prevalent in Vietnamese cities. Nor do these
> plans address the unique physical planning, mobility, labor, and
> environmental and parking, and modernization issues surrounding
> transportation primarily centered on motorbikes.
>
> Instead, these plans take a more traditional masterplan approach;
> analyzing existing conditions and offering recommendations for
> transportation planning based mostly on 4-wheel transit and pubic
> transit.
> Most of the recommendation tend to be heavily based on infrastructure
> improvement that only cursorily take into account two-wheel
> transportation.
> These plans take for granted the increase in 4-wheel transportation and
> advocate new ringroads, intersection improvements, Bus Rapid Transit
> Corridors, and widening of key arterial roads... all solutions that have
> fail to take into account the unique dynamics of motorbike
> transportation.
>
> For your thesis, it might be interesting to critique these plans and
> offer an alternative plan that better addresses the unique
> transportation dynamics involved with motorbike transportation.
>
> Many of the unique transportation dynamics of motorbikes have had
> substantial discussion on SUSTRAN: motorbike taxis, air pollution,
> motorbike safety, economic value of motorbike transportation,
> modernization to cars, ped/motorbike conflict etc.
>
>  I have published a paper titled "Streetwise Sustainability:A Two Wheel
> Alternative to balance Motorization and Streetlife". If you are
> interested I can send you an e-copy.
>
> All the best,
> Craig Johnson
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