[sustran] Re: [LotsLessCars] Keep Driving...

Carlos F. Pardo SUTP carlos.pardo at sutp.org
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But, from what I understand, the environment is not the only reason to stop
using cars (or to use them less). There’s also accidents, inequity,
excessive use of roadspace, etc. Thus, even if a car is zero-emissions, it
would still pose problems!

 

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De: LotsLessCars at yahoogroups.com [mailto:LotsLessCars at yahoogroups.com] En
nombre de Anzir Boodoo
Enviado el: Martes, 29 de Agosto de 2006 04:45 a.m.
Para: LotsLessCars at yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [LotsLessCars] Keep Driving...

 

João,
On 29 Aug 2006, at 07:02, João Lacerda wrote:
> I am very curious to know some thoughts of our british friends 
> concerning this issue.
(below)

So, it's OK to use your car as much as you want, because it's now 
carbon neutral. So there is no environmental reason to stop using 
your car...

Problems:

1. Carbon emission offsets are no longer considered environmentally 
equivalent to burning less fuel in the first place

2. An average aggregate of CO2 emitted takes no account of whether 
the car burning the fuel is a Prius or a Hummer

3. Likewise, emissions in urban areas with heavy traffic probably 
have much higher direct impacts than in open rural areas where they 
can dissipate quickly. Of course, this is also ignoring the 
interaction between emissions and atmospheric conditions... the 
impact of a unit of CO2 emission can vary depending on where it is 
emitted.

4. This also ignores CO, NOx and SOx. So even if you are carbon 
neutral, CO is not friendly, and NOx and SOx are still not neutral.

5. If a significant number of people signed up to this, would there 
be enough space to plant the trees? GBP 20 a year seems far too low 
to me... I assume saplings (small trees) do not soak up huge amounts 
of CO2, so it will take many years for the full effect of the "carbon 
sink" to work... in this period of years, what happens to the CO2 
that is in the atmosphere, and is it recoverable by the trees in 
10-20 years from now?

6. How does this work in terms of Kyoto? Or is everyone quietly 
forgetting that now (forgive me for being rude and actually being 
bothered about the whole thing...)

7. If everybody is happy to drive their cars when and where they want 
(since it's now "carbon neutral"), will people ignore the effects of 
traffic (not just pollution, but stress and wasted time)?

I think it's an interesting start, but is it starting us in the right 
direction? After all, I assume BP only has a certain amount of fuel, 
which is going to run out soon...
> BP Launches Carbon Neutral Scheme for Drivers
> http://www.planetar
<http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=37818>
k.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=37818
>
>
> BP Launches Carbon Neutral Scheme for Drivers
>
> LONDON - British motorists will be able to neutralise their CO2 
> emissions by paying an average 20 pounds a year towards offsetting 
> their pollution after oil company BP launched a new Internet scheme 
> on Wednesday.
>
> Drivers will be able to calculate their annual CO2 emissions using 
> the www.targetneutral.com Web site and help fund environmental 
> projects like wind farms.
>
> An average car, driven 10,000 miles a year, will generate about 
> four tonnes of CO2, about enough to fill a medium-sized hot air 
> balloon. To neutralise this amount of carbon emissions would cost 
> about 20 pounds.
>
> "Targetneutral is a practical and straightforward step that BP is 
> taking to enable drivers to help the environment," said BP's UK 
> Director Peter Mather.
>
> "BP is taking the lead because our extensive research shows that 
> there is a huge consumer demand for such a scheme, but a general 
> feeling from customers that they 'don't know where to start,'" he 
> added in a statement.
>
> Motorists' money from the targetneutral scheme, excluding VAT and 
> payment transaction costs, will be used to buy CO2 emission 
> reductions via the purchase of carbon credits. BP, which has 
> provided the start-up funding and will pay for running costs, will 
> not receive any money.
>
> The company will also make a direct contribution to targetneutral 
> when motorists using the scheme buy BP petrol using a Nectar 
> loyalty card.
>
> The money generated from targetneutral will be used for a range of 
> environmental projects including alternative and renewable energy 
> -- such as biomass, wind farms and methane capture schemes.
>
> Offsetting schemes have become increasingly popular in recent 
> years, but some environmentalists are critical of them, saying 
> reducing emissions should be the top priority.
>
> Story Date: 24/8/2006

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