[sustran] Re: Malaysia Ranks 30th AmongCountries InFatal RoadAccidents

[Guevarra, Joselito Lomada]

And how do you intend to do this? Riding bicycles or public transport once or twice won't sway them that easily...they need to do it over a long period of time...continuously.

jojo

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From: sustran-discuss-bounces+cvegjl=nus.edu.sg at list.jca.apc.org [mailto:sustran-discuss-bounces+cvegjl=nus.edu.sg at list.jca.apc.org] On Behalf Of Su-Lin Chee
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:32 AM
To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport
Subject: [sustran] Re: Malaysia Ranks 30th AmongCountries InFatal RoadAccidents

hear hear!

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Another way to improve the situation is to have policymakers
actually use
> bicycles and public transport. That would make them understand what
85% of
> the population is dealing with.
> 
>  
> 
> Carlos F. Pardo
> Coordinador de Proyecto
> GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC) Cl 125bis # 
> 41-28 of 404 Bogotá D.C., Colombia
> Tel:  +57 (1) 215 7812
> 
> Fax: +57 (1) 236 2309
> Mobile: +57 (3) 15 296 0662
> e-mail:  <mailto:carlos.pardo at sutp.org> carlos.pardo at sutp.org
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> De: sustran-discuss-bounces+carlos.pardo=sutp.org at list.jca.apc.org
> [mailto:sustran-discuss-
bounces+carlos.pardo=sutp.org at list.jca.apc.org] En
> nombre de Sunny
> Enviado el: Viernes, 11 de Agosto de 2006 03:25 a.m.
> Para: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport
> Asunto: [sustran] Re: Malaysia Ranks 30th Among Countries InFatal 
> RoadAccidents
> 
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> 
> Yes, I agree with your comment Alan and am also surprised by the
mindset of
> the govt people from Carlos' mail. Regarding your question What does
it
> Tak...? from my view I can think of only two answers one is to
enlighten the
> authorities like wht you will be doing in Mumbai, the tile looks very 
> promising. The second one is let the cities learn by themselves
which will
> cost a huge amount in terms of money, environment and even social
capitals.
> 
> The aspect that has to be seen is equity in transport modes in not
the
> requirement but the priority of NMT and PT is the most important
thing. 
> 
> Sunny
> 
> P.S: It would be kind of you if u can post the proceedings of the
conference
> if u find any other interesting presentations. 
> 
> Alan Howes wrote: 
> 
> It's very depressing.  In developing countries with low car
ownership,
> politicians seem to see car use (which is not necessarily the same
as car
> ownership, cf Switzerland) as a welcome sign of economic
development.  Do
> they see hard (or even soft) drug consumption in the same way, I
wonder?
> 
>  
> 
> What does it take to get the likes of Malaysia, India and China to
realise
> the long-term problems created by this thinking, not only for their
country
> but for the global community?
> 
>  
> 
> I've been invited to speak to a business group in Mumbai - my
currently
> suggested title is "Urban transport - learning from the mistakes of
others".
> 
>  
> 
> Alan
> 
>  
> 
> --
> Alan Howes
> Associate Transport Planner
> Colin Buchanan
> 4 St Colme Street
> Edinburgh      EH3 6AA
> Scotland
> email:   <mailto:alan.howes at cbuchanan.co.uk> 
alan.howes at cbuchanan.co.uk
> tel:      (0)131 226 4693 (switchboard)
>            (0)7952 464335  (mobile)
> fax:     (0)131 220 0232
> www: http:/www.cbuchanan.co.uk/
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> From: sustran-discuss-
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> On Behalf Of Carlos F. Pardo SUTP
> Sent: 10 August 2006 13:24
> To: 'Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport'
> Subject: [sustran] Re: Malaysia Ranks 30th Among Countries In Fatal 
> RoadAccidents
> 
> We once had a meeting in Putrajaya (the newly-designed town they
have as a
> future capital). They said they were not happy about their current
modal
> split: 20% use of private automobile. they wanted it to INCREASE to
40%,
> which was (according to one low-ranking staff member) a government
priority.
> If that is the case, they will keep on increasing the accident rate,
be it
> because of motorcycles or of cars.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Carlos F. Pardo
> Coordinador de Proyecto
> GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC) Cl 125bis # 
> 41-28 of 404 Bogotá D.C., Colombia
> Tel:  +57 (1) 215 7812
> 
> Fax: +57 (1) 236 2309
> Mobile: +57 (3) 15 296 0662
> e-mail:  <mailto:carlos.pardo at sutp.org> carlos.pardo at sutp.org
> Página:  <http://www.sutp.org/> www.sutp.org
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> 

Best wishes,

Su-Lin Chee

project manager
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