[sustran] FW: [atraPolicy] Removal From Sustran List

[Daryl Oster]

This message from Jack Slade should be about as clear as it gets.  Next time
the "new mobility" folk jet to a conference; I hope they reflect on:
How their trip would be progressing if carried out by muscle, sail, and
rail;  and how they would get along without any running water (transported
to them via pipes - er tubes); and electricity (transported to them by coal
train, and wires; 

Daryl Oster
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Slade [mailto:skytrek_org at rogers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:29 PM
> To: A/T Policy
> Subject: [atraPolicy] Removal From Sustran List
> 
>  The following is a copy of the message I sent to Eric Britton. I am not
> on his list, so I don't really care how he takes it.
> 
> Jack Slade
> 
> --!
>  -Original
>  Message-----From: Eric Britton
> [CLIP]
> >*         I have decided (unless pushed to the contrary) to omit from
> this
> >list all people with strong bureaucratic, institutional and economic
> ties
> >and interests, and specifically proponents of unproven technologies
> and
> >major infrastructure developments that are not fully and assiduously
> cross-
> >checked with the full range of sustainability criteria).
> (COPY)
>  Eric: This message from you was posted on our Transit-Policy chatline. I
> am not sure what you classify as “sustainable”. I sincerely hope you don’t
> mean the kind of sustainable transport that I grew up with. Just in case,
> let me describe it to you.
> 
> Quite a few of the people in my home town has horses, and carts or wagons.
> There were no cars. Carfree City? There were a couple of small trucks that
> brought in groceries and coal. A few of us had bicycles when we got older,
> but not to ride to work,!
>   because
>  the nearest factory was 82 miles away. Without transport for raw
> materials and manufactured goods factories cannot exist.
> 
> While you are carrying out your project to improve the future, I think you
> should keep this in mind. Future transport has a requirement much more
> important than just moving people, because without it you will not have a
> job to ride to. Another fact is that un-maintained roads begin to revert
> back to nature after 10 years, and they are maintained, currently, by the
> tax on gasoline, which is going to dry up as portable fuel becomes
> scarcer. A fifteen mile pedal on a gravel road just to visit Aunt Mary is
> not my idea of a pleasant Sunday afternoon outing.
> 
> You are eliminating all of the people who are trying to solve the full
> transportation problems of the future from your list. You are going to be
> left with the people who hav a lot in common with the people who said
> heavier than air flight was impossible (British Royal Society) and the
> gentleman who wanted to close the patent office he worked in, because
> “everything that could possibly be invented has already been invented”.
> 
> Somebody once said that if you are not part of the solu!
>  tion you
>  are part of the problem. I am not a member of your list, and please don’t
> try to enroll me.
> Jack Slade         www.skytrek2000.org
> 
> 
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