[sustran] Re: More on Advocacy?

[Eric Bruun]

Regina,

No offense taken. I just was concerned that I didn't seem to be expressing my position very clearly.

Eric
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Regina_Therese_MANZO at ura.gov.sg 
  To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:32 PM
  Subject: [sustran] Re: Advocacy?



  Dear Eric - 

  I have appreciated your thoughtful comments on Sustran.  My concern was, similar to yours, that there seemed to be advocacy of a single position rather than acknowledging both rail and bus as options/tools for a sustainable system.  To some extent discussing these without a context opens the door for disagreements about when each can work because there's no boundary offered by the ground reality of a given metro area.  I just wanted to reiterate that both are important tools.  In a context of sustainability, we should always be considering equity, cost, environmental impact....   

  I specifically haven't mentioned my views, and for me personally it seems that rail does get promoted too often before a discussion of other alternatives because it is "sexy" and "modern"; this does not negate the fact that it offers certain benefits/disbenefits compared to bus/BRT systems and can be appropriate in certain circumstances. 

  Apologies if I've offended anyone, and for dampening the discussion.   

  Best regards, 
  Gina Manzo 

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  Regina 
    
  I don't feel that I am taking a pro-rail advocacy position in a "bus versus rail" debate. I have been arguing that 1) they both can work together, and 2) that new rail investment is appropriate under SOME CIRCUMSTANCES. What sucked me into this discussion was my perception that others were taking an advocacy position AGAINST rail under almost all circumstances. Was I wrong? 
    
  Eric 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Regina_Therese_MANZO at ura.gov.sg 
  To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport 
  Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:36 PM 
  Subject: [sustran] Re: Bus, LRT, and heavy rail - comments from a by-stander 


  Hello All Sustainable Transport and Public Transit Advocates (let's remember we're all coming from the same starting point) - 

  the recent spate of email activity over bus or rail is really interesting as it's obviously struck a nerve in Sustran contributors.  It reminds me of boys and their need to be "king of the hill", the need to strive for the superlative - in sport, warfare, in the professional field, etc.  Perhaps everyone needs to go out for a good joust or round of football/soccer.  When we all come back in, we can again be clear that each circumstance is unique (not just in land use but also in politics and behavior patterns, etc.) and there's no set formula for "the best" multi-modal transport solution.   

  Have to say I'm glazing over, but for those fully interested, enjoy, and hope it's educative.   

  Bravo for all the notations of great information that have been provided.  I'll refer to these in my work in the future.   

  regards, 
  Gina Manzo 

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