[sustran] Re: Advocacy?

[Regina_Therese_MANZO at ura.gov.sg]

Dear Eric -

I have appreciated your thoughtful comments on Sustran.  My concern was, 
similar to yours, that there seemed to be advocacy of a single position 
rather than acknowledging both rail and bus as options/tools for a 
sustainable system.  To some extent discussing these without a context 
opens the door for disagreements about when each can work because there's 
no boundary offered by the ground reality of a given metro area.  I just 
wanted to reiterate that both are important tools.  In a context of 
sustainability, we should always be considering equity, cost, 
environmental impact.... 

I specifically haven't mentioned my views, and for me personally it seems 
that rail does get promoted too often before a discussion of other 
alternatives because it is "sexy" and "modern"; this does not negate the 
fact that it offers certain benefits/disbenefits compared to bus/BRT 
systems and can be appropriate in certain circumstances.

Apologies if I've offended anyone, and for dampening the discussion. 

Best regards,
Gina Manzo

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"Eric Bruun" <ericbruun at earthlink.net>
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Regina
 
I don't feel that I am taking a pro-rail advocacy position in a "bus 
versus rail" debate. I have been arguing that 1) they both can work 
together, and 2) that new rail investment is appropriate under SOME 
CIRCUMSTANCES. What sucked me into this discussion was my perception that 
others were taking an advocacy position AGAINST rail under almost all 
circumstances. Was I wrong?
 
Eric
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Regina_Therese_MANZO at ura.gov.sg 
To: Asia and the Pacific sustainable transport 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: [sustran] Re: Bus, LRT, and heavy rail - comments from a by-stander


Hello All Sustainable Transport and Public Transit Advocates (let's 
remember we're all coming from the same starting point) - 

the recent spate of email activity over bus or rail is really interesting 
as it's obviously struck a nerve in Sustran contributors.  It reminds me 
of boys and their need to be "king of the hill", the need to strive for 
the superlative - in sport, warfare, in the professional field, etc. 
Perhaps everyone needs to go out for a good joust or round of 
football/soccer.  When we all come back in, we can again be clear that 
each circumstance is unique (not just in land use but also in politics and 
behavior patterns, etc.) and there's no set formula for "the best" 
multi-modal transport solution.   

Have to say I'm glazing over, but for those fully interested, enjoy, and 
hope it's educative.   

Bravo for all the notations of great information that have been provided. 
I'll refer to these in my work in the future.   

regards, 
Gina Manzo 

Regina Manzo, AICP „X Urban Redevelopment Authority „X 45 Maxwell Road „X 
URA Centre „X Singapore 069118 „X  ph +65 6321-8305 „X 
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