[sustran] Re: [[sustran] Re: New_Mobility_in_Bogota:_Merging_Model?]

[Lloyd Wright]

Dear Harun,

Yes, Bogota's TransMilenio system does indeed hit capacities in the area of
30,000 passengers / hour / direction.  They are able to do so because they
have both local and express lanes in each direction, and because they also do
some creative things with station design in which multiple buses can use the
station at the same time.  Of course, to do so, one must have sufficient space
for the additional lane and the additional stopping area for the multiple
buses.

With over 550,000 passengers using the system currently, TransMilenio is far
exceeding predicted financial returns; the initial two corridors were only
expected to attract 250,000 passengers per day.  Thus, both the TransMilenio
administration and the private operators are essentially returning greater
profits.  When the full system is completed in 2015, over 5 million
passenger-trips per day are expected to be realised (in a city of 7 million
inhabitants).

Lloyd Wright

Representative, Latin America
Institute for Transportation & Development Policy
115 West 30th Street, Suite 1205
New York, NY 10001
USA
tel. +1 212 629 8001
fax  +1 212 629 8033
email  LFWright at usa.net
web  www.itdp.org

"Harun al-Rasyid S Lubis" <halubis at trans.si.itb.ac.id> wrote:
Dear sustran netter,

I attended the late Mayor of Bogota talk in Jakarta last week, sharing his
experience working with Trans Millenio, and other related transport issue in
Bogota.

Although seems to me it is a rather draconian consensus led by "referendum",
it is very fantastic that such public consensus could be agreed with at the
end. My question was any cost appeared soon after the consensus, such as
riots, or protests, etc. ?

One thing that make me very curious is the affect on car sales, brand new
and used , in Bogota? Any statistics so far that can hightlight the case ?
Also maybe a declining business in motoring industy and its supporting
intermediate business, such as, spare parts sales, garages, etc..

Regarding the articulated buses, I wonder the capacity per hr per direction
was true, I heard of something in between 30 - 40 thousands. Seems to me it
is rather high for such family of busway. Is  it  true ?

I didnot quite get the financial profile of the system, although seemed the
ex-mayor  tried to answer when I asked him. In its early operating months,
what fare-box ratio level has been achieved, anyway ?


Best,


Harun al-Rasyid S Lubis,
Center for Transportation Research, ITB
Jl. Ganesha 10 Bandung, INDONESIA
Tel/Facs; +62 22 250 23 50

----- Original Message -----
From: Konstantinos Tsourlakis <ktsourl at yahoo.com>
To: <sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:27 AM
Subject: [sustran] New_Mobility_in_Bogota:_Merging_Model?


>
> ????
> 300 M$ / 38 km = 7.9 M$/km
> 7.9 M$/km <> 5 M$/km !!!!
>
>
> At 02:00 ðì 18/11/2001 +0900, you wrote:
> >Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:18:32 +0100
> >From: "ecoplan" <ecoplan.adsl at wanadoo.fr>
> >Subject: [sustran]
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?New_Mobility_in_Bogot=E1:_Merging_Model?=
> >
> >A quick machine translation follows as an aid for non-Spanish speakers
> ..............................................................
> >For almost one year, 400 articulate buses transport 550.000 passengers
> >daily for 38 kilometers of exclusive roads in Bogota. The project had
> >a
> >cost of 300 million dollars.
> ...............................................................
> >Calculations indicate that while a kilometer of meter is worth 107
> >million dollars, a kilometer of `` Transmilenio'' hardly 5 million
> >dollars.
> ...............................................................
>
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