[sustran] Assistance Wanted (Indonesia) <fwd>

[Antony J Plumbe]

Alan,

Apparently this was rejected by the sustrans system first time round 
owing to the title starting with 'help'. So here is the second attempt.

Tony Plumbe
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:59:34 +0000 ()
From: Antony J Plumbe <a.j.plumbe at bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: Help Wanted (Indonesia)
Sender: ajplumbe at bradford.ac.uk
To: alanhowes at usaksa.com, howesap at saptco.com.sa
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Alan,

Re. Malang PT, I think you will find ocek is usually spelt ojek. It 
is a motorcycle taxi where the passenger hires the back seat. Ojeks 
cluster at road junctions especially to provide local feeder 
services to other forms of public transport such as bemos (small 
minibuses), colts and various larger buses. They compete directly with 
becaks (bicycle-taxis for 2-3 pax) and have seen much increase in 
numbers with the post 1998 'monetary crisis'. Basically they are young 
men with access to a motorcycle and are otherwise unemployed. There may 
be a few 6-8 seat horse drawn passenger carrying carts operating short 
distances like bemos still left in Malang - may be called andong or 
another name in East Java. If you need other input in Malang, let me 
know. I did some PT investigations in Surabaya in 1995-6.

Tony Plumbe

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:01:19 +0300 Alan P Howes <howesap at saptco.com.sa> 
wrote:

> Fatima Mansions? Who They?
> 
> Anyway, I will try to dig out my Jonathon Ross quote that I used to put in
> my sig in the good old days of Usenet. (Access to which I am now denied -
> and anyway it's got rather flaky.)
> 
> Something like "No man should be allowed behind the wheel of a car until he
> is old enough to appreciate a fine cigar, a glass of port, and the company
> of a woman who does not look like Pamela Anderson". (I _have_ heard of her.)
> In fact, I think that's pretty close to the original. Class of alcohol may
> be wrong.
> 
> BTW, I may well be doing some work in the heart of SUSTRAN territory
> shortly. Sorting out buses in Malang, Java, starting November. About 8
> weeks, but yet to be confirmed. I've dug through the Sustran archive, but
> would welcome any other offers of advice (Paul?). For a start, what is an
> ocek? (Not mentioned in Lonely Planet!) Oops! Found it. Motorbike-taxi. But
> there must be plenty else I need to learn.
> 
> Cheers, Alan.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hayes, Paul (TSA)" <Paul.Hayes at transport.sa.gov.au>
> To: <sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:24 AM
> Subject: [sustran] Re: Quote
> 
> 
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > The Fatima Mansions coined a song entitled "Only Losers take the bus" - I
> > can send you the schizophrenic lyrics if you like.  Perhaps an example of
> > the individual / frontier ethic in pop/rock ... Of course, the are plenty
> of
> > ripostes in popular culture (Gridlock etc)
> >
> > Paul Hayes
> 
>  --
> howesap at saptco.com.sa
> Alan Howes, Special Advisor, Saudi Public Transport Company, Riyadh
> +966 1 454 5000 ext. 156
> Personal email: alanhowes at usaksa.com
> 

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A. J. Plumbe, 
Director, Outside Programmes,
Co-ordinator M.Sc. in Project Planning and Management,
email: a.j.plumbe at bradford.ac.uk
Fax: International: +44-1274-235280
     Domestic     : 01274-235280
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